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Help with my Lab

Post by Jerry Howe - The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizar » Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:55:39



HOWEDY tanya,


Quote:

> Well hello, as with many others I have a black lab

That's IRRELEVANT:

                         A DOG Is A DOG;
                       As A KAT Is A KAT;
                    As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                  As A HORSE Is A HORSE;
                    As A GOAT Is A GOAT;
                     As A Ferret Is A Ferret;
                  As A Monkey Is A Monkey;
                   As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
            As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
       As A Mass ***er Is A Mass ***er.

Quote:
> who is giving us a bit of grief and we have no clue what to do!

                   ALL Critters Only Respond In
               PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                   INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
       To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                     Which We Create For Them.

                  Any Three Week Old Puppy Got
                    All The BRAINS HE NEEDS
                    To HOWEtwit The Cunning
                                 Of ANY
              Professional Domestic Puppy Dog Trainer
                                    OR
                    University Trained Behaviorist

Quote:
> Gibson is a year old, and a beautiful dog but....he eats everything in
> sight!

Do you mean he constantly tries to EAT FOOD?

Or do you mean destroys every thing in sight?

Quote:
> Yeah, I know this is normal

Destructive / compulsive chewing and / or obsessive eating are
DEATHLY STRESS INDUCED anXXXIHOWESNESS RELIEF
MECHANISMS and therefore can be EXXXTINGUISHED NEARLY
INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE your newfHOWEND professional
lyin dog abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic life-long
INCURABLE Maliganant MaliciHOWES MENTAL CASE PALS prefer.

No, it AIN'T NORMAL to be obsessively hungry or compulsively
 destructive UNLESS of curse, you're WON of HOWER fellHOWE
dog lovers who post their LIES IDIOCY INSANITY and ABUSE
here abHOWETS who ain't got the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit the
 cunnin of the domestic puppy dog EVEN AFTER The Simply
Amazing Puppy Wizard and HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Method
Manual Students TOLD THEM HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY an FOR FREE, to boot <{}: ~ ( >

Quote:
> but does anyone have any clues or hints on what to do?

"Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can
Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving
Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific Management Of
Doggys." <{) ; ~ ) >

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition," Ivan P. Pavlov

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

"All animals learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVERY LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge,
demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced
as a punishment and can produce extensive and
persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)."

A. S. Neill, The Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!

The Embry Study:

"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.

Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about dashing into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.

Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."

Source:

"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Report
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."

                    -------------------

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966).

Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION of the need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis from
clinical to parental HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

                      --------------------

       Skinner and ALL the EXXXPERTS SEZ:
          "punishment DERANGES behavior":

B.F. Skinner: Re-evaluation of Punishment

Punishment, unfortunately traditionally overused,
actually has been proven not effective at long-
term behavi***change, and creatures will find
other ways of getting what it wants. In "Freedom
and the control of men" American Scholar, Winter
1955-56, 25, 47-65. 1956 he states:

If we no longer resort to torture in what we call
the civilized world, we nevertheless still make
extensive use of punitive techniques in both
domestic and foreign relations. And apparently for
good reasons. Nature if not God has created man
in such a way that he can be controlled punitively.

People quickly become skillful punishers (if not,
thereby, skillful controllers), whereas alternative
positive measures are not easily learned.

The need for punishment seems to have the support
of history, and alternative practices threaten the
cherished values of freedom and dignity.

Fear involved with punishment causes frustration:
with typical results loathing, hostility and apathy.
Skinner's teaching on the superiority of posittive
reinforcement's benefits for keeping desired behavior
have proved very valuable.

           ----------------------------

Quote:
> When we are not home, Gibson stayed in a run that is huge
> (the size of most yards in the city).  He had plenty to do and
> shade in his run!

Of curse <{}: ~ ) >

Quote:
> One day he decided to escape so...he jumped/scaled the six
> foot fence, and now always does this when you put him in there!

Dogs are TERRORTORIAL critters by NATURE.
Dogs ONLY run away from their HOWESES when
they're ABUSED, NEGLECTED or IGNORED <{}: ~ ( >

If your dog is HAPPY with his owner HE AIN'T GONNA
LEAVE his own pupperty. You can PERIMETER TRAIN
ANY DOG in just a few minutes to NOT WANT to ESCAPE
 their yards, if you know HOWE <{}';~ ) >

             LIKE THIS:


Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Quote:

> So, jerry's techniques didnt' work for Peach?

Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still
using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.

The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home were:
build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan on
putting a modular home here within the next few years...
put more fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs
could play bitey face w/o tangling, and similar suggestions.

Jerry was the only one to mention border training...
but he was kook supreme ;-P  So I ignored him... no
killfiles with webtv..

at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like
 Candace, so the group was not very conducive to
learning anything.

At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.

By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had
 already ran away.

Not very good at the google groups search but you'll
find my first post at "runaway dog message 30" within
 that thread is mention of the dogs taking off and being
gone for 2 days.

I stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was
devastated that his dog was gone... Zelda came
home but not her mom.

The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.

Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes, I
put it in my e-mail (no storage otherwise on webby unless
you put stuff on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.

Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it
on Zelda.  It worked and I now have a great housedog!

I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to
lose another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with
little kids.  I and my boys still miss her.  Sometimes I
still look to see if she came home when we get back from trips.

Maybe Peach would still have ran away... I don't know
and never will....

~misty

             ---------------

                 SEE?


Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Peach would be there sittin pretty had our pals not given
you a bum steer cause they're EMBARRASSED and AFRAID
 of losing their careers and reputations....

Stick around, we're just startin to have FUN
learning and sharing...J;~)

          -------------------------

                 SEE??


I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know
she's not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here
for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of
how you write/wrote. I was ...

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Help with my Lab

Post by Jerry Howe - The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizar » Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:39:18


HOWEDY funkyfoots, you PATHETIC miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal ***in punk thug coward active acute
chronic life-long INCURABLE Malignant MaliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE,


Quote:

>> Well hello, as with many others I have a black lab who is giving us a
>> bit of grief and we have no clue what to do!  Gibson is a year old, and
>> a beautiful dog but....he eats everything in sight!  Yeah, I know this
>> is normal but does anyone have any clues or hints on what to do?

> Some clues and hints, no easy fixes.

INDEED? Hadn't you learned from your own DEAD DOG
Dylan that eatin ***can *** you, funkyfoots??

Here's YOU ***IN your own HOWEskat:


Subject: Re: OT:urk..cat poop
Newsgroups: alt.support.menopause
Date: 2002-07-03

<snip>

yecchh!  Now, why was he demanding
that YOU clean it up?

Once I had a housemate who acquired a
stray cat while I was on vacation.  Before
I knew about the cat, when I walked into the
bedroom that we shared, I thought, "Damn,
Sarah must not have done laundry for WEEKS!"

 Shortly after that, I spotted the cat.

Further investigation revealed that the damned
cat had been sh*tting in my SHOES.  Not Sarah's
shoes.  MINE.

Not too smart of that cat, particularly since I'm
allergic and he was treading on thin ice in that
domain already.  He clinched it a couple of days
later when I was carrying him out of the bedroom
(now forbidden territory), and the dog (big white
Shepherd mix) came trotting around the corner.
Cat freaked, clawed and bit me.

Sorry, but that kitty had to go to the animal shelter
the next day.  (I would have had the same reaction
if the dog had bit me.)

FurPaw
-
        BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA!!!

HOWEDY funkyfoots,

Add these to your posted case history of DIS-EASES
aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome caused by jerking
and *** your dogs:

"I'm out more than $5,000 in the past year because I
have one dog who developed a heart condition and
another one who required surgery for laryngeal paralysis
and went blind in one eye, reason unknown; in addition
to the surgery, a lot of diagnostic tests were required for
each one."

             BWEEEEAAAAHAAAHAAA!!!

Quote:
>> When we are not home, Gibson stayed in a run that is huge (the size of
>> most yards in the city).  He had plenty to do and shade in his run! One
>> day he decided to escape so...he jumped/scaled the six foot fence,
>> and now always does this when you put him in there!  So, we started
>> keeping him in a kennel, but both my husband and I thought this was
>> cruel, as there are times when we both work quite late and he is in
>> there too long.  Our last resort was a 30ft leash.  He seems to like
>> this, but eats everything.  He has eaten our barbecue cover, Christmas
>> lights, our little boys tractor, wagon...and so on!  WHAT do we
>> Do?????

> From what you say, it sounds like Gibson is bored,

That's curiHOWES; BORED DOGS SLEEP.

Quote:
> left alone too much and for too long,

Seein as you MENTAL PATIENTS believe as 'z dog
wheeesperer' sez: "dogs live in the moment", bein left
alone for too much an too long AIN'T a PROBLEM as
 it's only moments, to the dog's mind <{}'; ~ ) >

      furpaw:
      (SSRI, cognitive therapy)
       otherwise, a fairly boring
       and nondescript crazy person

Quote:
> and isn't getting enough exercise to tire him out.

That's ABSURD and INSANE. Hyperactive behaviors are
CAUSED BY MISHANDLING and ABUSE, not lack of
EXXXCESSIVE EXXXORCISE <{}: ~ ( >

      Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
      UofOH, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can
      Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving
      Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific Management Of
      Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

      "...all the highest nervous activity, as it
      manifests itself in the conditional reflex,
      consists of a continual change of these three
      fundamental processes -- excitation, inhibition
      and disinhibition,"  Ivan P. Pavlov

      "Postitive emotions arising in connection
      with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
      of its pragmatic significance at a given
      moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
      emotions, not outside rewards, are what
      reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

  "All animals learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz

      "Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
      reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY
      model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse,
      Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
      HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
      reward not received is experienced as a punishment
      and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
      (Azrin et al, 1966)."

      "The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
      technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
      (1966) report a standard contingent reward /
      punishment procedure developing imitative speech
      in two severly disturbed non verbal schizophrenic
      boys. After twenty-six days the boys are reported
      to have been learning new words with alacrity.

           HOWEver, when REWARDS were moved to a
      delayed contingency the behavior and learning
      immediately deteriorated."

      "It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
      deviant behavior of children can be achieved
      through brief, simple educative routines with
      their mothers which modify the mother's social
      behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
      clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
      child THERAPY through changing the clinical
      emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of
      the child (Szrynski 1965).

      A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
      preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
      of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE
      a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite severe
      cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated in own to
      five months by simply REPLACING the parents temporarily
      with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

Quote:
> You need to fix all of these.

INDEED?

Quote:
> (Did I say no easy fixes?)

That's right, you DID SAY that; HOWEver, you're a MENTAL
PATIENT. That's ABSURD and INSANE, you pathetic miserable
stinkin rotten lyin animal ***in MENTAL CASE <{}: ~ ( >

      furpaw:
      (SSRI, cognitive therapy)
       otherwise, a fairly boring
       and nondescript crazy person

Quote:
> Can you put a cover (e.g. chain link fencing) over the top of his run to
> keep him contained?

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Quote:
> What training have you given him?

It's your ignorameHOWES viciHOWES "OBEDIENCE
TRAINING" that CAUSES hyperactive behavior <{}: ~ ( >

Quote:
>  Have you taken him to obedience training?

You mean like HOWE you done your own DEAD
an DEATHLY ILL dogs, funkyfoots??

Quote:
> Do you spend at least a half hour each day training him, to help occupy
> his brain?

That's ABSURD and INSANE, funkyfoots <{}: ~ ( >

Quote:
> How often/how far do you walk him every day?

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Quote:
> What have you done to move "edibles" (as defined by Gibson) out of his
> reach?  What do you substitute?  (E.g., filling a large Kong with treats
> and peanut butter and freezing it might keep him occupied for an hour;

That's ABSURD and INSANE, funkyfoots <{}: ~ ( >

Puttin GARBAGE into a kong toy an forcin the to to work
hard to remove it INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS and
DRIVES DOGS INSANE <{}: ~ ( >

Quote:
> decrease the amount you feed him correspondingly).

Oh, you mean LIKE THIS, funkyfoots?:


I had to leave Molly in her crate today, because I was in an
all-day workshop, and Hubster was out of town.

I came home at lunch to find:
1.  the twin-sized blanket that covered her crate PULLED
INSIDE through the bars and in the process of being shredded.

2.  the quilt on the bed next to the crate in the process of
being chewed (but not pulled into the crate)

3.  the pad in her crate all scrunched up.

I guess a filled Kong wasn't enough to occupy her for 4 hours.

Then this afternoon, when Hubster arrived home, he heard a loud
bark - not from the back of the house, from the dining room.  How
did she get out?  Well, there's a small door on the front of the
crate with a single latch, for putting things into the crate
after the dog is inside.  She had somehow opened the latch and
squeezed through the small opening.  Fortunately, she didn't do
much damage in the house.  That door is now locked.

The latches on the main door on the crate are the same type.
Hubster thinks the likelihood that she will open both is slim.  I
think we need another lock.

Damn dog is smarter than I am!  (But what a lover!  After
breakfast, she [all 41 lb of her] likes to climb on my lap for a
cuddle.  I'm teaching her to ask politely.)

FurPaw
--
Don't believe everything that you think.

To reply, unleash the dog.

               ---------------------------

Quote:
> Is there someone you could pay to come over during the long days he's
> alone and walk Gibson?  Any doggie day
> care in your area where you could take him a few days
> each week?

                BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Quote:
>> Gibson is an amazing dog in the house, but is just too big to always be
>> inside.  We do live in a rural community, and he has an acre to play on,
>> but unfortunately everytime we take him off the leash he is gone, so we
>> cant just let him play off the leash, or he'll go gallavanting, which
>> would be ok, but with this "eating" problem I'm concerned he may wreak
>> havoc on our friends and neighbours properties.

> Even if he didn't eat everything in sight, it is NOT OK if Gibson goes
> gallivanting, even if you do live in the country.  Running loose, he can
> get into a lot of

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