Moon's Graden

I hope not :(  They don't sensationalize the breed, the part is short and
sweet, and the character refers to the giant as a "coward" <G>

Robin

I'm with Robin. Hopefully the part is small enough it will be overlooked?
Took me a minute to recognize the dog though, wit the ears, till I remembered
it was filmed with an "all British" cast! <G>

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funny, I went grocery shopping Sat. and their is a pet store in the same
strip mall the store is in. They sell puppies and I always go in to hold
and play with them (as well as pray for them) They had a Neo. Mastiff
pup their. He was a bluish gray. The same color as the Weimeranner pup.
The lady said they are normally red and white and this dog was
*rare*...(I don't know anything about the breed but I doubt she knew if
it was *rare* or not. She also said this dog would only get to be about
75 lbs....I'd think more like double that) Cute puppy though.

They had some really unusual breeds their. (I am not good with the
spelling of the names so please forgive me) The regulars like Min. Pins,
Bulldog (oh was he sweet....) Bischon, Maltese, Jack Russell. ect. But
they had a Weimeranner (I wouldn't  think of that as a pet store dog,
nor would i the Neo Mastiff), Saluki (spelling? sorry), Borzoi, Chinese
Crested, Pappilion (spelling?), LA. Catahoula dog (is this a recognized
breed, my vet has a poster of one in the exam room...he went to vet
school in LA) and a Ridgeback.

I certainly hope these dogs are not becoming so popular that the puppy
mills are messing with the gene pool. I would think that most of the
dogs in the later half of the post have some protection within the breed
because they are so rare and the breeders do their homwork...Especially
the Neo. Mastiff. The last thing we need now is for the Neo's to become
like the Dal's did after the movie came out...

Darby

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Darn!  I always had that dog pictured as a Great Dane :(

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Melanie,
No, it wasn't near any of the Mason campuses. I live in Stafford. The store
was in Stafford, on Rt. 1. Can't remember the store name or the shopping
center name. Sorry.

Darby

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It isn't a matter of "messing with the gene pool" as such but one of poor
breeding practices.  When puppy mills get involved poor breeding practices
increase, but in some breeds some bad habits exist from the very start.

Unfortunately rarity doesn't mean that breeders necessarily breed for
soundness and good health.  I've commented before on "breed culture" in
which the social expectations of what a breeder does varies from breed to
breed.  Thus despite a very low rate of hip dysplasia Siberian owners
test at a high rate, while despite a high rate of hip dysplasia Pug
owners test at a low rate.  I haven't read their materials in a while but
last I did there was a lot of controversy on testing for hip dysplasia.
The non-testing proponents complained that the resulting dogs were not
"typey" - not their idea of how the breed should look and move.  This is
the kind of situation in which some breeders treat the breed as more
important than the dog.  They are perfectly willing to have dogs with
physical problems in order to get the look they want.  Keeping in mind
that people generally only report passing scores it is disheartening in
the least to see the Neo rates of
dysplasia at 47 percent. http://www.moonsgarden.com/

http://www.moonsgarden.com/

True.  Neopolitan Mastiff breeders aren't big on breeding for health in
the first place.  Given what they DO breed for e.g. "big bones and lots of
wrinkles" it might just be that a puppy mill with NO goals would do a
better job of producing a healthy dog. Now THERE'S a scary thought.  But
no I'm not suggesting puppy mills are the answer.  Health issues aside one
of the big problems with puppy mills is selling without regard to
appropriate placement.  The big breeds are tough to rescue and die at a
much greater rate simply because people don't actually want to live with
giant drooling dogs.  And as you noted in your story pet stores aren't
exactly noted for providing good breed information.  Many are merely
careless but many also outright lie.  The welfare of the dog is simply not
their concern. At least the United States Neopolitan Mastiff Club requires
breeders to accept back dogs.
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cleaning up after the dog, but allows the *** to be bred at 12 months
and says not a word on testing health and temperament.

Diane Blackman

ACK!!!!! Where is this pet store? Just for curiosity sake.

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Actually, I had always wondered what a "boarhound" was.  Fang, readers
may recall, was descibed as a boarhound (this is the part played by the
Neopolitan Mastiff).

So... IS there a breed or type called the Boarhound, or is it just any
sort of largish dog that might be suitable for hunting wild pigs, or is
it just something Rowling made up?

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A boar hound officially 'precedes' the modern great dane, and is very
mastiff looking.

But great danes, from reading some weird book of odd facts... (again, they
also said a completely different idea of the weehteego from my knowledge)
the great danes descended from boarhounds... but became 'smaller and
thinner' overall than the boarhounds...

And i can't even tell you if this is from a book in my own bookshelf, or
from the store where hubby works and I just browsed a couple of them... or
if its from the 2:30 am I have a deadline at 11:30am and am only 1/3
finished talking...
*G*

Yeah, it's registered... but that ONE wasn't.  It's kind of odd....
All the pet store Catahoulas (and I do mean ALL- it's a small world in
rare breeds) were traced back to one guy in MO.  The NALC has revoked
his registration privledges... so he sells them without papers now.
When confronted he said only "Well, it's not like I'm selling them to
Labs or anything." (yeah, we have BYB in the breed, but this was the
only guy supply stores.  Has something like 20 litters a year... X 10
pups/litter average...)  :(

It was really disturbing when, a few years before I got Mr. Man,
Beau's breeder was contacted by someone who'd bought a pup in Toronto
ON SALE for $800 (down from $1200).  The person wanted another puppy
(most likely to make more $1200 puppies).  My friend said no and she
had health tested, Champion parented, working puppies for $350 CN...
and the caller wasn't going to get one! (IMHO, don't pay more than
$350 US... uless it's from Snickers- quintuple champion plus
Conformation Ch. of GrCH- he is, plus a nice dog to boot, with health
screens, then $500 is a bargain!  Sorry, drooling again)

They've made it into MI pet stores too... a friend up North has a
rescued Catahoula and when she was at the vet someone came in with
another Catahoula... said they bought it at the mall over the weekend
because it had "such cool eyes" (red leopard, double glass eyes).

In the same area there are signs in the hunting stores advertising
"Catahoola puppies- $600)

-Amanda
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Shea,
Its in Stafford VA. That is about half way between Quantico Marine Base
and Fredericksburg....about 1.5 hours south of DC. I do not remember the
name of the store or the name of the strip mall but it is on RT1 across
from the post office and the gas station. Their is a Food Lion store in
the mall....Sorry I can't be of better help. The pup was sure cute
though!

Darby

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I wasn't too fond of the fact that "Fluffy" looks a lot like a
three-headed Pit Bull.

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I was thinking the exact same thing

Andrea -
who was planning on naming her next APBT "Fluffy"

In addition to the Neapolitan Mastiff, I have friends in the bird business.
They have already gotten a slew of calls want to know about purchasing a Snowy
Owl! God how stupid can people be???
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  What would you expect - a three-headed pomeranian?  Fluffy is a relative of
Cerberus, who I always imagined as a pit bull type of dog - like the roman dogs
of war.

Jana
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