Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

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Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Amanda Tikkane » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:00:49



You should be able to find similar calorie info on the dog food company's
site.  For reference, the pumpkin has far fewer calories than the dog food
as it has no fat in it (protein and carbs are 4 cals/gram while fat is
7/gram).

Be aware, however, that pumpkin is an anti diarrheal, so the dog may have
trouble passing its stool.  It's a great short term remedy for loose stools
in both people and dogs.

A good way to lose weight (both people and the dog!) is to take it biking.
I put the dogs on a 'better' kibble and worked them *** the bikes and
they both muscled right up (walking wasn't enough for my younger boy- too
slow for any progress).  Now my guy looks much better in the ring, and I can
keep right up with him.

If it's a young, old or physically impaired dog, try swimming as it's better
for joints (no impact).  Caloric reduction alone isn't the answer as the
body will eat away at the muscles before moving onto fat stores.  Exercise
is the only thing that will keep this from happening.

-Amanda
http://www.moonsgarden.com/

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Dana » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:16:35



Quote:
> Be aware, however, that pumpkin is an anti diarrheal, so the dog may have
> trouble passing its stool.  It's a great short term remedy for loose
stools
> in both people and dogs.

From what I understand, pumpkin not only helps firm up runny stools but it
also is good at easing constipation as well.  In other words, it's a good
"consistencifier" (there aren't enough words in the English language, so I
thought I'd make up another one!) :)  I know quite a few BARFers keep it on
hand if their dogs for this reason.

-- April

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by WalterN » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:21:35


Let's see, the dog isn't getting the nutrition it should now and your going
to take even more out and imbalance what it gets? your best bet is to simply
feed the dog less and stop giving it anything else from your table if you
are.


Quote:
> My sister is trying to put her dog on a diet. She read about adding
> canned pumpkin instead of canned dog food to the dog's regular ration
> of dry kibble, since the pumpkin is the same consistency as the wet
> food.

> So we went shopping together and got some cans of pumpkin. Can says
> that 1/2 cup pumpkin has 50 calories. Then we went to the dog food
> aisle and got some cans of dog food. Guess what? No calorie info on
> them. So how do we know which really has more calories, the pumpkin or
> the dog food?

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Jana & Greta the Reddo » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:56:07


Strange that you mention it is an anti-diarrheal. Our vet recommends it for
constipated cats because of the fiber... and Greta poos 3-4 times a day when
she gets her pumpkin (2-3 X a week)
Regarding biking.... make sure that if you bike, your friends get rests
every 10-15 minutes. If a dog goes biking with their owner, they will do
ANYTHING to keep up with the bike and usually will NOT rest when they need
it. Our vet has seen a few dogs who were biked too hard and had a lot of
soreness.

Quote:
> Be aware, however, that pumpkin is an anti diarrheal, so the dog may have
> trouble passing its stool.  It's a great short term remedy for loose
stools
> in both people and dogs.

> A good way to lose weight (both people and the dog!) is to take it biking.
> I put the dogs on a 'better' kibble and worked them *** the bikes and
> they both muscled right up (walking wasn't enough for my younger boy- too
> slow for any progress).  Now my guy looks much better in the ring, and I
can
> keep right up with him.

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Amanda Tikkane » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:18:54


Quote:
> Regarding biking.... make sure that if you bike, your friends get rests
> every 10-15 minutes. If a dog goes biking with their owner, they will do
> ANYTHING to keep up with the bike and usually will NOT rest when they need
> it. Our vet has seen a few dogs who were biked too hard and had a lot of
> soreness.

Sorry.  I forgot to add that.  I'm so used to watching mine for any sign of
slowing that I didn't even think to say it.

Last summer Lucy didn't want to work on the bike so she faked a limp.  It
was convincing- thought her wrist was broken or something.  I brought her
home (we were only about 100 yards out of the driveway as it was) and she
ran around bouncing and having a good time- she suckered me good!

Beau, on the other hand, will work really hard because he's having so much
fun.  I have to work hard at holding him back so he doesn't wear out too
quickly.  Need a little endurance when he's out there.  9 times out of 10
he's dragging me back up the driveway after a mile of full out running.
that 10th time he's right next to me.  Methinks its time he move up to 2
miles!

-Amanda
http://uberpest.50megs.com

 
 
 

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Post by Mary » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 13:47:02


Quote:

>So we went shopping together and got some cans of pumpkin. Can says
>that 1/2 cup pumpkin has 50 calories. Then we went to the dog food
>aisle and got some cans of dog food. Guess what? No calorie info on
>them. So how do we know which really has more calories, the pumpkin or
>the dog food?

Fresh broccoli, mmm, tasty and low calorie.
-
Mary
http://www.prado.com/~iris
 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Steve Burge » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:10:49


Frozen broccoli, mmm, tasty convenient and low calorie.
Quote:


> >So we went shopping together and got some cans of pumpkin. Can says
> >that 1/2 cup pumpkin has 50 calories. Then we went to the dog food
> >aisle and got some cans of dog food. Guess what? No calorie info on
> >them. So how do we know which really has more calories, the pumpkin or
> >the dog food?

> Fresh broccoli, mmm, tasty and low calorie.
> -
> Mary
> http://www.prado.com/~iris

 
 
 

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Post by James M. Broc » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:40:44


Who said It wasn't getting enough nutrition? Some dogs love to eat. Will eat
anything, and beg greatly.
The breed was not mentioned. Many breeds tend to be over wieght because of
the above mentioned reasons.
Let us not pass judgement.


Quote:
> Let's see, the dog isn't getting the nutrition it should now and your
going
> to take even more out and imbalance what it gets? your best bet is to
simply
> feed the dog less and stop giving it anything else from your table if you
> are.



> > My sister is trying to put her dog on a diet. She read about adding
> > canned pumpkin instead of canned dog food to the dog's regular ration
> > of dry kibble, since the pumpkin is the same consistency as the wet
> > food.

> > So we went shopping together and got some cans of pumpkin. Can says
> > that 1/2 cup pumpkin has 50 calories. Then we went to the dog food
> > aisle and got some cans of dog food. Guess what? No calorie info on
> > them. So how do we know which really has more calories, the pumpkin or
> > the dog food?

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Shell » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:09:32



Quote:
> Last summer Lucy didn't want to work on the bike so she faked a limp.  It
> was convincing- thought her wrist was broken or something.  I brought her
> home (we were only about 100 yards out of the driveway as it was) and she
> ran around bouncing and having a good time- she suckered me good!

heeheeheee...
Last summer I'd been prepping Coda for his hiking trip.   He's a moderately
active dog, we walk/jog 3 miles a day (he's offleash, so he covers much more
ground that I do), plus early a.m. ball-fetching (I hit it with a tennis
racquet!) for 20 minutes or so, then always minimum of 15 minutes of
"working" (learning obedience commands, new "tricks", agility flexibility
manuvers, whatever to keep his brain moving!).
I started with just the pack for several days, then added a couple packs of
food (2lbs, maybe) for a few more days.   On the third day, I put the pack
on him with the small food packs.    He'd been trying to get me to throw a
stick for him, and I kept refusing.   I put the pack on, he instantly
started limping.   I adjusted the pack, still limping.   Checked the leg,
nothing out of place, no *** or wounds.   Hmm...
Took the pack off, he *RAN* to get his stick, and tossed it at my feet.
I tossed the stick, he sped after it, brought it back for more without the
slightest limp at all.
So, while it's possible the pack just sat wrong on his spine, making it
uncomfortable, or he just didn't feel like packing that day!!  :-)
Shelly, Coda (Who liked packing most days, and especially on the trip---but
man, oh, man you should see me glow when I get to cart!)  & Guiness..
 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Shell » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:10:43



Quote:
> Frozen broccoli, mmm, tasty convenient and low calorie.

Just watch out for lethal dog gas...
Shelly, Coda (Who likes broccoli, but it doesn't like him!) & Guiness..
 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by didd » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:36:19


My dogs don't get gas from Broccoli, either one of them.....
Quote:



> > Frozen broccoli, mmm, tasty convenient and low calorie.

> Just watch out for lethal dog gas...
> Shelly, Coda (Who likes broccoli, but it doesn't like him!) & Guiness..

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Amanda Tikkane » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:50:55


Quote:
> Fresh broccoli, mmm, tasty and low calorie.

green beans, taters, apples... ours raid the compost bucket.  (really not so
bad unless the coffeehounds hit the wet grounds in there!  YIKES!!)

-Amanda
http://uberpest.50megs.com

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Mary » Sat, 08 Dec 2001 03:36:48




Quote:



>> Frozen broccoli, mmm, tasty convenient and low calorie.

>Just watch out for lethal dog gas...
>Shelly, Coda (Who likes broccoli, but it doesn't like him!) & Guiness..

DJ's intestines don't mind broccoli, but I once made the mistake of
giving her cabbage. She loved it, and we had to leave the windows open
for a couple of days. :)
-
Mary
http://www.prado.com/~iris
 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by Mary » Sat, 08 Dec 2001 03:40:30


On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:50:55 -0500, "Amanda Tikkanen"

Quote:

>green beans, taters, apples... ours raid the compost bucket.  (really not so
>bad unless the coffeehounds hit the wet grounds in there!  YIKES!!)

She picks string beans out of mixed veggies and spits them on the
floor. Peas too -- she once ate chicken in gravy (low fat, no salt ;)
) out from around peas, got them perfectly clean! and I swear, her
lips and tongue never actually touched a pea. *** toxic peas,
::ptui!::

She begs for apples, but will only eat them cooked. Raw ones she'll
ask for, but spit out. Same for pears and bananas -- "Please can I
have just a bite? :: ptui :: No not that one, the other thing you're
eating! The tasty thing!" Funny thing is, she doesn't beg much at all.
There are just certain things that catch her attention. I can't resist
when she begs for banana; I always give her just a tiny piece to watch
her spit it out then beg again.
-
Mary
http://www.moonsgarden.com/~iris

 
 
 

Canned pumpkin instead of canned dogfood?

Post by queenmothe » Sat, 08 Dec 2001 06:06:18


Quote:

>She picks string beans out of mixed veggies and spits them on the
>floor. Peas too -- she once ate chicken in gravy (low fat, no salt ;)
>) out from around peas, got them perfectly clean! and I swear, her
>lips and tongue never actually touched a pea. *** toxic peas,
>::ptui!::

I had a friend who had a boxer who hated peas.  You could give him anything
with one little pea mixed in it and when he got done, the bowl would be
clean except for the pea.

Of course, we made it a game!

~~Judy
One of the symptoms of approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that
one's work is terribly important. - Bertrand Russell