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Post by Jeff Sik » Fri, 17 Mar 1995 09:24:46



OK,here's my story:

A friend at work had taken in a small, abused dog but her roommates
would not allow her to keep it.  So, she was either going to put it in
the pound or the humane society.  I have been planning on getting a
puupy (I've bought the training books, etc)  but didn't plan on
getting one so soon (yes, of course I took it in).  She is a great dog
when I am home!!  I have been blessed with some free time lately and
have been able to work on housetraining her.  However...I have a few
problems, and I was wondering if someone could help me.

#1:  Indy(the dog's name)  seems housetrained when I am home, doesn't
get into the trash, etc.  But when I leave,  I block off the kitchen
and utility room for her to stay in (linoleum floors)  Anyway, I come
home, and she has chewed on the door, shredded her newspaper, gone
through the trash, peed on the floor, and thrown her food around the
room.  What can I do?  If I discipline her when I get home will it do
any good?  

#2:  Indy was pretty banged up when I got her.  But after a checkup, I
found that she was actually in excellent health other than
malnourishment and small skin abrasions.  I can't get her to stop
scratching the scabs off her cuts.  Does anyone have any ideas?  I put
neosporin on them right now.

#3:  I love this dog.  But if she keeps knawing on the doors, I'm
going to have to find a new home for her.  I rent a townhouse and my
landlady doesn't approve of pets.  She told me I could keep the dog
until she got well.  My lease is up in April, and I will find a new
place to live.  So PLEASE HELP ME find a way to stop this behavior!!

Thanks!!

Jeff Sikes

 
 
 

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Post by Dan Beg » Fri, 17 Mar 1995 16:34:49



Quote:

>OK,here's my story:

>A friend at work had taken in a small, abused dog but her roommates
>would not allow her to keep it.  So, she was either going to put it in
>the pound or the humane society.  I have been planning on getting a
>puupy (I've bought the training books, etc)  but didn't plan on
>getting one so soon (yes, of course I took it in).  She is a great dog
>when I am home!!  I have been blessed with some free time lately and
>have been able to work on housetraining her.  However...I have a few
>problems, and I was wondering if someone could help me.

>#1:  Indy(the dog's name)  seems housetrained when I am home, doesn't
>get into the trash, etc.  But when I leave,  I block off the kitchen
>and utility room for her to stay in (linoleum floors)  Anyway, I come
>home, and she has chewed on the door, shredded her newspaper, gone
>through the trash, peed on the floor, and thrown her food around the
>room.  What can I do?  If I discipline her when I get home will it do
>any good?

>...snip...

Jeff,

I think most of your problems can be taken care of with crating. You
want to use an airline shipping crate for Indy to stay in when you are
not home. There is a FAQ on crating available in rec.pets.dogs.info
or by ftp.

Just in case crating sounds cruel (it did to me, which caused me to
start it kind of late with one of my dogs), to the dog it becomes a
safe haven that is *theirs* only. I crate trained my sisters golden
for a bit over a month when the puppy first came home and the pup
grew to love that crate. Dogs that do not have crates will often
find a substitute (mine either get deep into the back of the closet
or go into the shower stall in the bathroom.

Don't give up - you will make it to April!

Dan
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Post by john be » Sat, 18 Mar 1995 08:55:05


: OK,here's my story:

: A friend at work had taken in a small, abused dog but her roommates
: would not allow her to keep it.  So, she was either going to put it in
: the pound or the humane society.  I have been planning on getting a
: puupy (I've bought the training books, etc)  but didn't plan on
: getting one so soon (yes, of course I took it in).  She is a great dog
: when I am home!!  I have been blessed with some free time lately and
: have been able to work on housetraining her.  However...I have a few
: problems, and I was wondering if someone could help me.

: #1:  Indy(the dog's name)  seems housetrained when I am home, doesn't
: get into the trash, etc.  But when I leave,  I block off the kitchen
: and utility room for her to stay in (linoleum floors)  Anyway, I come
: home, and she has chewed on the door, shredded her newspaper, gone
: through the trash, peed on the floor, and thrown her food around the
: room.  What can I do?  If I discipline her when I get home will it do
: any good?  

She must like you. Sounds like she gets upset when you leave.  A
second dog might help.  You also might try crateing her while you're
away.  Once she becomes comfortably with her new stable home she
will probably not need a crate.

: #2:  Indy was pretty banged up when I got her.  But after a checkup, I
: found that she was actually in excellent health other than
: malnourishment and small skin abrasions.  I can't get her to stop
: scratching the scabs off her cuts.  Does anyone have any ideas?  I put
: neosporin on them right now.

Is she scratching or chewing?  Most any topical medication will cause
some dogs to chew.  In those cases nothing is often best.  Best to
ask he Vet.

: #3:  I love this dog.  But if she keeps knawing on the doors, I'm
: going to have to find a new home for her.  I rent a townhouse and my
: landlady doesn't approve of pets.  She told me I could keep the dog
: until she got well.  My lease is up in April, and I will find a new
: place to live.  So PLEASE HELP ME find a way to stop this behavior!!

These things take time.  How much time depends on the individule dog,
how messed up her past life was and how much time you spend with her.
If she's been abused, don't push her.  When she starts to trust you,
you'll notice a world of difference.  Good luck and let me know.

John Beck

 
 
 

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Post by Jennifer Lynn Holc » Sun, 19 Mar 1995 02:58:48


|> #1:  Indy(the dog's name)  seems housetrained when I am home, doesn't
|> get into the trash, etc.  But when I leave,  I block off the kitchen
|> and utility room for her to stay in (linoleum floors)  Anyway, I come
|> home, and she has chewed on the door, shredded her newspaper, gone
|> through the trash, peed on the floor, and thrown her food around the
|> room.  What can I do?  If I discipline her when I get home will it do
|> any good?  

You need to set it up so that the dog *can't* get into
trouble while you're gone.  Crating is one option but
since you're already blocking her in one area of the
house you might just continue with that.

Why not try putting the trash can where she can't get it
and don't put down newspapers.  You don't mention how
long she's alone during the day but she might not be
able to hold it so peeing on the floor is the only
option.  Also (I'm assuming that you're free feeding
now) try a feeding schedule and don't leave food out
all day long.

Also you might try a spray (bitter apple, pepper, etc)
on the door or whatever else you don't want her to
chew on.  Don't discipline unless you catch the dog
in the act.  Hope this helps some.

-Jennifer

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Post by Mary A. Molte » Sun, 19 Mar 1995 04:34:39


Hi Jeff,
Probably the best advice I could give you is to buy a crate for the dog.  
It will not allow the destructiveness that you're experiencing and it
will soon become a safe place for her to go when she feels the need.  The
destruction you're experiencing may be a way of punishing you for leaving
her.  Especially since she has a great home and someone who really
cares.  It upsets her when you leave since she doesn't understand that
you'll be coming back.  
        Boredome may be another explanation for the naughtiness.  Make
sure she has lots of her own toys to play with.  If you're opposed to the
crate idea then you must put every potential source of naughtiness out of
her way.  
        The crate idea is a good one because not only will it become her
own place, but until she's fully potty trained, the theory is that she
won't go potty in a place where she has to lay.  

Take you're time and have patience.  Her behavior will improve.  Don't
scold her when you come home and find the mess.  She doesn't remember or
know that she's been ***.  The only reasonable time to scold is when
you've caught her in the act.

Mary

 
 
 

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Post by amy young-leit » Tue, 21 Mar 1995 01:30:56



[...]

Quote:
>#1:  Indy(the dog's name)  seems housetrained when I am home, doesn't
>get into the trash, etc.  But when I leave,  I block off the kitchen
>and utility room for her to stay in (linoleum floors)  Anyway, I come
>home, and she has chewed on the door, shredded her newspaper, gone
>through the trash, peed on the floor, and thrown her food around the
>room.  What can I do?  If I discipline her when I get home will it do
>any good?  

No, chances are she'll have no idea what you're yelling at her for.

CRATE TRAIN YOUR DOG.  Get a pet carrier that is large enough for her
to lie down, stand, and turn around in, and PUT HER IN THIS WHEN YOU
CANNOT SUPERVISE HER.  This will be "her" home and she will love it
(trust me, even though I use Bijou's crate as punishment sometimes she
still loves it, will go into it on command, and goes in there on her
own to play or lie down during the day).  

There is NOT a problem with this dog's behavior, rather with the
owners procedure and expectations.

Quote:
>#2:  Indy was pretty banged up when I got her.  But after a checkup, I
>found that she was actually in excellent health other than
>malnourishment and small skin abrasions.  I can't get her to stop
>scratching the scabs off her cuts.  Does anyone have any ideas?  I put
>neosporin on them right now.

If she just won't leave them alone you might have to get her one of
those large collar things which makes it impossible for the dog to
reach it's body to dig and bite.  If she's scratching them off... ask
your vet.

Quote:
>#3:  I love this dog.  But if she keeps knawing on the doors, I'm
>going to have to find a new home for her.  I rent a townhouse and my
>landlady doesn't approve of pets.  She told me I could keep the dog
>until she got well.  My lease is up in April, and I will find a new
>place to live.  So PLEASE HELP ME find a way to stop this behavior!!

CRATE YOUR DOG!  Give her a safe place of her own to stay in while
you're away.  We have a German Shephard who is a wonderful dog and
sleeps with us at night but is NOT allowed out by herself for periods
of time during the day or night.  She stays in our bedroom with us at
night (we close the door although nothing has happened when we left it
open a time or two) but she cannot be trusted when we are gone during
the day, so we crate her.  She goes in without a fuss and is happy to
see us (and to go pee) when we get home.  We love her, she loves us,
and the apartment is no worse for wear.

amy

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Post by Josh Weinste » Tue, 21 Mar 1995 15:20:56


I agree that crate training is the best and most humane way o housebreak
your pet. I have a 9 month old retriever and she will go into the crate
on command. make the crae a fun place for the dog. Do things like hide
treats in it and put your dog's favourite toys in the crate. It takes
time but it works like a charm!

email me if you have any other questions.

josh Weinstein

 
 
 

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Post by Mary Heal » Tue, 21 Mar 1995 20:08:52



Quote:

>#1:  Indy(the dog's name)  seems housetrained when I am home, doesn't
>get into the trash, etc.  But when I leave,  I block off the kitchen
>and utility room for her to stay in (linoleum floors)  Anyway, I come
>home, and she has chewed on the door, shredded her newspaper, gone
>through the trash, peed on the floor, and thrown her food around the
>room.  What can I do?  If I discipline her when I get home will it do
>any good?

What can you do?  Crate her!  This is *classic* separation anxiety.
When you leave, she gets worried and upset.  (Can you blame her?
She's had a pretty insecure time of it lately.)  Often, time will
reduce the symptoms - she learns that you always come back, so she
doesn't have to be so worried.  Crating is a temporary solution to
this problem - in the crate the dog can't be destructive.  She also
can't hurt herself by chewing something dangerous.  The smaller area
might keep her from soiling the crate (although you should be
prepared to clean both the crate and the dog for awhile!).

When I crate my dogs, I don't "furnish" the crate.  No food, no
water, only *very* sturdy toys (Kongs), nothing "messy".  You might
put a rug in for her later, but to start with, it's much easier if
there's *nothing* destructible in the crate.  I give my dogs a
biscuit when they go in.  For an anxious dog, I might leave the
radio on (talk or news stations are good).

If you don't catch her "in the act" (and most anxiety destruction is
done in the first 20 minutes!), don't punish her.

Good luck!
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