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Anyone know a good food choice?

Post by Jennifer Bre » Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:00:00



I have a 10 month-old Great Dane, an 8 week-old Great Dane/Mastiff mix
(who I just learned will live from parvovirus) and a 2 year-old
chihuahua mix. 2 very hungry puppies that eat alot and a small dog who
doesn't eat much (he prefers the crumbs that others drop).

I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less. We
don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors who
like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-glorious
task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of there
is something that will make it less.

A man at a feed store here suggested Iams because they digest more of
the food. Atleast something made with rice.  

I currently have my dogs on Pedigree. The man at the feed store says
that almost all of that ends up coming out.

I am not sure what kind would be best.

Any help or experience on this matter would greatly be appreciated.

 
 
 

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Post by Denna Pa » Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:00:00


The guy at the food store is right on both counts; Pedigree goes in
one end and comes out the other, and produces some of the stinkiest
poops you can imagine in the process.  Iams is more easily digested,
but still isn't the most digestible.  It's better, but is a far cry
from the best.

I'd try California Natural.  Very, very digestible.

Even so, there's no substitute for a good yard mine patrol at least
twice a week.

Denna


Quote:

>I have a 10 month-old Great Dane, an 8 week-old Great Dane/Mastiff mix
>(who I just learned will live from parvovirus) and a 2 year-old
>chihuahua mix. 2 very hungry puppies that eat alot and a small dog who
>doesn't eat much (he prefers the crumbs that others drop).

>I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less. We
>don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors who
>like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-glorious
>task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of there
>is something that will make it less.

>A man at a feed store here suggested Iams because they digest more of
>the food. Atleast something made with rice.  

>I currently have my dogs on Pedigree. The man at the feed store says
>that almost all of that ends up coming out.

>I am not sure what kind would be best.

>Any help or experience on this matter would greatly be appreciated.

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Post by Ron Hardi » Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Pedigree Prime produces a lot less poop.
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Post by J1Bo » Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>I have a 10 month-old Great Dane, an 8 week-old Great Dane/Mastiff mix
>(who I just learned will live from parvovirus) and a 2 year-old
>chihuahua mix. 2 very hungry puppies that eat alot and a small dog who
>doesn't eat much (he prefers the crumbs that others drop).

>I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less. We
>don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors who
>like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-glorious
>task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of there
>is something that will make it less.

***** You're somewhat doomed by having two HUGE breeds, but still, you can
lessen the volume a bit.

I personally avoid anything with CORN in in, since I see a dramatic increase in
poop (individual pile volume as well as # of piles) with foods containing it.

I prefer better grade ingredients, which is why my food of choice is California
Natural.  Innova, made by the same company, Canidae, Pinnacle, Wysong,. Solid
Gold, Wellnessm - many good "super premium natural" foods out there.  If you're
going to stick with somehting more commonly available, I'd choose Nutro Natural
Choice, which is now available more widely than it had been.

Hills, Iams, Eukanuba - well - a lot of people feed them, but I wouldn't.

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"

"Second-hand dogs AREN'T second-rate"
see Lucy at:   http://www.flyball.com/nsl/

 
 
 

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Post by Toni w/IW' » Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less. We
>don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors who
>like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-glorious
>task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of there
>is something that will make it less.

I have a not so very big back yard, and major dog poundage.
The ONLY solution is to go out with your dogs every time, and pick it up.
Every day- every time.
Pick it up, or hose it in.
Period.

That being said, the food I use is (IMO) the best available (except for
BARF) www.bestinshowpowerfood.com .

Innova is a widely available comparable brand.

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Post by WalterN » Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:00:00


And when you do settle down to an appropriate food, try adding some
digestive enzymes to the feed. You will notice that they help your dog
absorb more nutrients.


Quote:
> >I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less. We
> >don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors who
> >like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-glorious
> >task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of there
> >is something that will make it less.

> I have a not so very big back yard, and major dog poundage.
> The ONLY solution is to go out with your dogs every time, and pick it up.
> Every day- every time.
> Pick it up, or hose it in.
> Period.

> That being said, the food I use is (IMO) the best available (except for
> BARF) www.bestinshowpowerfood.com .

> Innova is a widely available comparable brand.

> --
> Toni
> www.irish-wolfhounds.com
> Check the "Update on Steve"

 
 
 

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Post by Nancy Holmes or Nelson Ruffi » Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:00:00


in addition to a good food choice your neighbors will be happier if you use
an enzyme formula cleaner on your yard (safe for plants) too.
I like Odor Mute as it comes as a powder and can be applied using a hose end
applicator and you just mix up what you need.
Nancy
(I feed Bil Jac Select myself to Xlarge and Xsmall dogs and I raise pups on
the *** Select food too)

Quote:
> I have a 10 month-old Great Dane, an 8 week-old Great Dane/Mastiff mix
> (who I just learned will live from parvovirus) and a 2 year-old
> chihuahua mix. 2 very hungry puppies that eat alot and a small dog who
> doesn't eat much (he prefers the crumbs that others drop).

> I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less. We
> don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors who
> like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-glorious
> task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of there
> is something that will make it less.

> A man at a feed store here suggested Iams because they digest more of
> the food. Atleast something made with rice.

> I currently have my dogs on Pedigree. The man at the feed store says
> that almost all of that ends up coming out.

> I am not sure what kind would be best.

> Any help or experience on this matter would greatly be appreciated.

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Cran » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00


None of your recommendations would be a very good idea IMHO. None
of the foods are created for giant breed dogs. Such pets are at
high risk for musculoskeletal problems which can be attenuated
by reducing the calories and vastly reducing the calcium levels.
The issue of large breed puppies is well documented and there are
many solid scientific research studies to support feeding these a
reduced calcium and energy level diet. It may be a little late to
help the 10 month old Gt. Dane.
        Secondly why the anti corn stuff? There is no logical reason
to make such a statement.
Corn is:
1. The second most digestible grain following rice.
2. Contains 5 times the levels of essential fatty acids as rice
3. Is 20 times less likely to cause an allergy than wheat.
data from Journal of Veterinary Nutrition, June 1994
Quote:

> >I have a 10 month-old Great Dane, an 8 week-old Great Dane/Mastiff mix
> >(who I just learned will live from parvovirus) and a 2 year-old
> >chihuahua mix. 2 very hungry puppies that eat alot and a small dog who
> >doesn't eat much (he prefers the crumbs that others drop).

> >I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less. We
> >don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors who
> >like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-glorious
> >task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of there
> >is something that will make it less.

> ***** You're somewhat doomed by having two HUGE breeds, but still, you can
> lessen the volume a bit.

> I personally avoid anything with CORN in in, since I see a dramatic increase in
> poop (individual pile volume as well as # of piles) with foods containing it.

> I prefer better grade ingredients, which is why my food of choice is California
> Natural.  Innova, made by the same company, Canidae, Pinnacle, Wysong,. Solid
> Gold, Wellnessm - many good "super premium natural" foods out there.  If you're
> going to stick with somehting more commonly available, I'd choose Nutro Natural
> Choice, which is now available more widely than it had been.

> Hills, Iams, Eukanuba - well - a lot of people feed them, but I wouldn't.

> Janet Boss
> Best Friends Dog Obedience
> "Nice Manners for the Family Pet"

> "Second-hand dogs AREN'T second-rate"
> see Lucy at:   http://www.flyball.com/nsl/

 
 
 

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Post by bigdo » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00


I would recomend for any large breed dog Eagle Pack Natural formula.
This is a formula that is most frequently used by Great Dane breeders.
For more information go to www.eaglepack.com

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Post by J1Bo » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>None of your recommendations would be a very good idea IMHO. None
>of the foods are created for giant breed dogs.

******* And no other food is either.  "Large breed puppy" yes, but giant breed?
 HAve yet to see one.

Quote:
>Such pets are at
>high risk for musculoskeletal problems which can be attenuated
>by reducing the calories and vastly reducing the calcium levels.

********* None of the foods I mentioned are higher in calories than the average
puppy food, from what I recall.  

Quote:
>The issue of large breed puppies is well documented and there are
>many solid scientific research studies to support feeding these a
>reduced calcium and energy level diet. It may be a little late to
>help the 10 month old Gt. Dane.

******** I recommended *** foods.

Quote:
>    Secondly why the anti corn stuff? There is no logical reason
>to make such a statement.

******** Sure there is.  Hill's SD is one of the biggest poop-producing foods
there is.

Quote:
>Corn is:
>1. The second most digestible grain following rice.

******** I don't digest it well and neither do most dogs.

Quote:
>2. Contains 5 times the levels of essential fatty acids as rice

******** and?

Quote:
>3. Is 20 times less likely to cause an allergy than wheat.

******* Who said anything about wheat?  

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"

"Second-hand dogs AREN'T second-rate"
see Lucy at:   http://www.moonsgarden.com/

 
 
 

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Post by Mistingue » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


What do you use Walter? I feed Innova which has probiotics in it but
doesn't mention digestive enzymes. Have you used Prozyme?


Quote:

> And when you do settle down to an appropriate food, try adding some
> digestive enzymes to the feed. You will notice that they help your dog
> absorb more nutrients.

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Post by WalterN » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


No process food has useable enzymes in it. Enzymes are destroyed during
processing, effectively killing all of the food and making your animals body
have to create it's own enzymes for digestion. This causes your animal to
steal important metabolic enzymes for digestion. Enzymes must be added to
processed food. I would suggest Prevail digestive enzymes which are plant
based. A capsule or two in your dogs food will make a substantial difference
in how well he digests.

I feed my dogs a raw diet.

 
 
 

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Post by Tracy Landaue » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


I echo the suggestion of Prevail.  I was using a great product that I
bought through my holistic vet, but it's no longer available, so I took
the empty bottle to my local hfs and asked if they had a similar
broad-spectrum antioxidant with digestive enzymes, and so I found
Prevail.  I also give Power-Dophilus II with FOS.  Good combination.

Tracy Landauer

Quote:

> No process food has useable enzymes in it. Enzymes are destroyed during
> processing, effectively killing all of the food and making your animals body
> have to create it's own enzymes for digestion. This causes your animal to
> steal important metabolic enzymes for digestion. Enzymes must be added to
> processed food. I would suggest Prevail digestive enzymes which are plant
> based. A capsule or two in your dogs food will make a substantial difference
> in how well he digests.

> I feed my dogs a raw diet.

 
 
 

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Post by stephanie1.. » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


I would strongly disagree and so would most vets and dog
nutritionalists. You are NOT suppose to feed a dog corn and by-
products.
Many dogs have major allergies to corn and causes itching and bad skin
allergies.
they do poop more when fed corn and a low quality food.
You will also notice with a low quality food that the dogs teeth will
develop more plaque and bad breath.
what brand of food do you feed your dog? Sounds like you feed him/her
Pedigree or some other food with all corn fillers and by-products.
California Natural, Innova, Solid Gold are all premium dog foods with
high quality ingredients. Stephanie


Quote:

> None of your recommendations would be a very good idea IMHO. None
> of the foods are created for giant breed dogs. Such pets are at
> high risk for musculoskeletal problems which can be attenuated
> by reducing the calories and vastly reducing the calcium levels.
> The issue of large breed puppies is well documented and there are
> many solid scientific research studies to support feeding these a
> reduced calcium and energy level diet. It may be a little late to
> help the 10 month old Gt. Dane.
> Secondly why the anti corn stuff? There is no logical reason
> to make such a statement.
> Corn is:
> 1. The second most digestible grain following rice.
> 2. Contains 5 times the levels of essential fatty acids as rice
> 3. Is 20 times less likely to cause an allergy than wheat.
> data from Journal of Veterinary Nutrition, June 1994


> > >I have a 10 month-old Great Dane, an 8 week-old Great Dane/Mastiff
mix
> > >(who I just learned will live from parvovirus) and a 2 year-old
> > >chihuahua mix. 2 very hungry puppies that eat alot and a small dog
who
> > >doesn't eat much (he prefers the crumbs that others drop).

> > >I am looking for a dog food that will make my dog go "poops" less.
We
> > >don't have a extremely large backyard and also have some neighbors
who
> > >like to call the health department. Since I have the not-so-
glorious
> > >task of picking up the stuff they leave behind I am wondering of
there
> > >is something that will make it less.

> > ***** You're somewhat doomed by having two HUGE breeds, but still,
you can
> > lessen the volume a bit.

> > I personally avoid anything with CORN in in, since I see a dramatic
increase in
> > poop (individual pile volume as well as # of piles) with foods
containing it.

> > I prefer better grade ingredients, which is why my food of choice
is California
> > Natural. Innova, made by the same company, Canidae, Pinnacle,
Wysong,. Solid
> > Gold, Wellnessm - many good "super premium natural" foods out
there. If you're
> > going to stick with somehting more commonly available, I'd choose
Nutro Natural
> > Choice, which is now available more widely than it had been.

> > Hills, Iams, Eukanuba - well - a lot of people feed them, but I
wouldn't.

> > Janet Boss
> > Best Friends Dog Obedience
> > "Nice Manners for the Family Pet"

> > "Second-hand dogs AREN'T second-rate"
> > see Lucy at: http://www.flyball.com/nsl/

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Post by Tammy Bone Do » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Stephanie,

Steve Crane is a Hill's sales rep....he SELLS Science Diet :) and I
would bet he feeds it as well.

Tammy

Quote:

> what brand of food do you feed your dog? Sounds like you feed him/her
> Pedigree or some other food with all corn fillers and by-products.
> California Natural, Innova, Solid Gold are all premium dog foods with
> high quality ingredients. Stephanie