name of breed : help wanted

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name of breed : help wanted

Post by Dany Aendenboo » Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Hello All,

Recently i have seen a program about pets on one of the German TVstations.
They were talking about a new breed of dogs, the type of breed ( German???)
was recognized by the dog-breeding associations, and existed only since a
couple of years.
However, i can not remeber the name of the breed.....therefore this call for
help....
The name sounded very German, the breed existed with 2 different types of
hair, short and longer. The dog with the longer type of hair looked more or
less like a Berger de Brie (Briard), but smaller. The dog was very social
and intelligent (which i am not since i forgot the name...)
Does anyone have any idea about the name of this dog??
Thanks in advance.

Dany

 
 
 

name of breed : help wanted

Post by Duckwort » Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:00:00


I'm not quite sure what you mean, but here are some possibilities.
These are some breeds not registered by the "Germans". This is also actually
the German form of the names.
(You know, like German Shepherd is Deutscher Schaeferhund)

Labradoodle
Altdeutscher Schaeferhund
Eloschaboro
Harzer Fuchs
Schenkenberger
Dansk/Svensk Gardhund
Kerry Beagle
Lancashire Heeler
Lurcher
Himalaya-Schaeferhund
Neuseelaendischer Huntaway
Markiesje
Mioritic Hirtenhund
Perro de Presa canario
Tibetischer Kyi Apso
Prager Rattler
Chortaj
Estonskaia Goncaja
Latvijskaia Goncaja
Moskauer Wachhund
Alapaha Blue *** Bulldog
American Staghound
Catahoula Leopard Dog
***erpoo
Kyi Leo
Plott Hound
A.C. Weisser Schaeferhund

If you could dsescribe the dog you saw more we could narrow down the list!

Amanda

Quote:

>Hello All,

>Recently i have seen a program about pets on one of the German TVstations.
>They were talking about a new breed of dogs, the type of breed ( German???)
>was recognized by the dog-breeding associations, and existed only since a
>couple of years.
>However, i can not remeber the name of the breed.....therefore this call
for
>help....
>The name sounded very German, the breed existed with 2 different types of
>hair, short and longer. The dog with the longer type of hair looked more or
>less like a Berger de Brie (Briard), but smaller. The dog was very social
>and intelligent (which i am not since i forgot the name...)
>Does anyone have any idea about the name of this dog??
>Thanks in advance.

>Dany


 
 
 

name of breed : help wanted

Post by Liisa Sarakon » Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>The name sounded very German, the breed existed with 2 different types of
>hair, short and longer. The dog with the longer type of hair looked more or
>less like a Berger de Brie (Briard), but smaller. The dog was very social
>and intelligent (which i am not since i forgot the name...)

Your description brings Pyrenean Shepherd, Berger des Pyrenees to my
mind.  They are smaller than Briard and come in two coat types: long
(a little like Briard) and short.  They are intelligent, easy to train
and do well as sheep herding, agility and obedience.  But it is not a
German breed and not a new breed.

Liisa

 
 
 

name of breed : help wanted

Post by Dany Aendenboo » Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Hello All,

I am sure the type of dog was a "new" German breed with standard recognized
by the authorities ad hoc.
The name had something of a area or town or community in it.
The dog was, if i remember well, a crossing of 2 different breeds.
The long-hairtype had something of a Griffon or a "Boomer" (from TV).
I hope this brings you somehat closer.....
Thanks in advance

Dany

Quote:
> Your description brings Pyrenean Shepherd, Berger des Pyrenees to my
> mind.  They are smaller than Briard and come in two coat types: long
> (a little like Briard) and short.  They are intelligent, easy to train
> and do well as sheep herding, agility and obedience.  But it is not a
> German breed and not a new breed.

> Liisa

 
 
 

name of breed : help wanted

Post by Liisa Sarakon » Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>I am sure the type of dog was a "new" German breed with standard recognized
>by the authorities ad hoc.
>The name had something of a area or town or community in it.
>The dog was, if i remember well, a crossing of 2 different breeds.
>The long-hairtype had something of a Griffon or a "Boomer" (from TV).
>I hope this brings you somehat closer.....
>Thanks in advance

Kromfohrlander is a "new" German breed, it is a cross between two
breeds and it comes in two coat types - but doesn't look at all like a
Briard.

The parent breeds are wire-haired Fox terrier and some kind of hunting
Griffon (Bretagne Griffon?), and it got its full breed status
sometimes after WWII - in 50's, I guess.  The name comes from area
named Krom Fohr (or Krumme Furche?).  Kromfohrlanders look like big,
light Fox Terriers and they are white with tan, sable or yellow
spotting.  One coat type is wire and rather short, the other is longer
and softer-looking.  They are used as hunting dogs and they are said
to make rather nice (but active!) pets.  

I have no idea what a "Boomer from TV" is.

Official kennel clubs don't accept new breeds easily here in FCI
countries, especially if the breed is just a cross of two existing
breeds and doesn't come from old local type ("landrace").  But
numerous local types still don't have a full breed status, and many of
them are not too mixed to be "saved".  Some are already gone, like the
Suursaari Seal Dog, a spitz-type dog specially for seal hunting
(probably the only such breed/type in the world?) although some people
here in Finland are right now trying to re-create its close relative,
Seiskari Dog.

Liisa

 
 
 

name of breed : help wanted

Post by Dany Aendenboo » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Thanks to all for your help.
I even got an e-mail with the URL from the Kromfohrlaender homepage.

Thanks again

dany

 
 
 

name of breed : help wanted

Post by cmhene » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Hi everyone

I am new here - have been lurking for a few days.  I live in the UK, and
have been searching for more information about my dog.

I have a Large Munsterlander - pedigree cross of a German long haired
Pointer and English Springer Spaniel.  Wonderful on land and water - looks
like a springer on stilts - sharper senses, very intelligent, and loyal.

In answer to your query, there are two kinds of Munsterlander - Large and
Small.  There are some useful details on the web - and pictures.  I will
look them up and post again.  They come in the following colours - black and
white, largely black and brown and white.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,     moonshine

 
 
 

name of breed : help wanted

Post by cmhene » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Hello again,

As promised, I am including a web site with photos of Large Munsterlanders.
I wonder if that is the breed you are thinking of.

http://www.pointingdog.com/munster/beamer.jpg

By the way, he is very similar to Leo - my munsterlander.

moonshine