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Post by \ » Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:28:32



Clear DayHello everyone.

I'm new to this group and actually a new puppy owner also. I got a Miniature Schnauzer about 2 months ago (1st part of Feb.). She was about 8 wks old, and is now 17 wks old. Her name is Pepper. She is black and silver. Some things have me concernced with her health right now though. I haven't been given her any medicine since I got her and I don't have alot of funds right now to take her to a vet.
First, I would like to know what are some maintenance medications to prevent problems from arising? (Ear problems, worms,etc.) Another thing, aren't there signs or symptoms of worms? She has been eliminating in her house the last day or so. She has been urinating outside when I take her out, but goes back to the door like she's finished and then later I realize she has made a mess in her house. I also noticed the form- its not as solid as it normally is...almost diarrhea but I'm not sure really. It's not runny, just soft. I may be just over reacting, but I get nervous when things are alittle different than normal.
Another problem she is having, she shakes her head alot and rubs at her ears with her paws. I guess they are itching her. Can you buy medications over the counter for ear infections? How can I tell she has an infection? I'm going tonight to get some *** and cotton balls to clean her ears out, but I'm not sure if that's going to help or not?
Any insight on this will be very helpful. Thank you in advance.

~Karen

"It seems if you believe in a dream enough, it has to come true"  -Bryan White

 
 
 

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Post by Lori Reynold » Thu, 11 Apr 2002 21:06:09


Clear DayHave you asked the breeder about your concerns?

--
Lori in Peoria, IL with the Sighthound Six-Pack

  Hello everyone.

  I'm new to this group and actually a new puppy owner also. I got a Miniature Schnauzer about 2 months ago (1st part of Feb.). She was about 8 wks old, and is now 17 wks old. Her name is Pepper. She is black and silver. Some things have me concernced with her health right now though. I haven't been given her any medicine since I got her and I don't have alot of funds right now to take her to a vet.
  First, I would like to know what are some maintenance medications to prevent problems from arising? (Ear problems, worms,etc.) Another thing, aren't there signs or symptoms of worms? She has been eliminating in her house the last day or so. She has been urinating outside when I take her out, but goes back to the door like she's finished and then later I realize she has made a mess in her house. I also noticed the form- its not as solid as it normally is...almost diarrhea but I'm not sure really. It's not runny, just soft. I may be just over reacting, but I get nervous when things are alittle different than normal.
  Another problem she is having, she shakes her head alot and rubs at her ears with her paws. I guess they are itching her. Can you buy medications over the counter for ear infections? How can I tell she has an infection? I'm going tonight to get some *** and cotton balls to clean her ears out, but I'm not sure if that's going to help or not?
  Any insight on this will be very helpful. Thank you in advance.

  ~Karen

  "It seems if you believe in a dream enough, it has to come true"  -Bryan White

 
 
 

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Post by Shelly & John Brosna » Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:27:30


Clear Day


Quote:
>Hello everyone.
>I'm new to this group and actually a new puppy owner also. I got a

Miniature >Schnauzer about 2 months ago (1st part of Feb.). She was about 8
wks old, and >is now 17 wks old. Her name is Pepper. She is black and
silver.

Hi Karen and congratulations on your new puppy.  :-)  At 17 weeks, Pepper
should have had most of her vaccinations *and* wormings by now.   Since you
acquired her at 8 weeks, she will most likely--at most--have had only 2 in
her "puppy set".    She will need the remaining boosters/wormings,
especially if you have concerns about worms.   Especially if she is going
places where other dogs have been--even if they've not been on that soil for
over a few months.   Her problem could be more than worms, diarrhea is a
first symtom of *many* canine maladies, including parvo, and giardia.   And,
rubbing her ***on the carpet/etc. isn't always a valid way of determining
worms or not, dogs doing this also tend to be dogs that have ***gland/sac
issues.  It could be something as simple as stress, or food changes, but
unless you know for sure, why take the chance?

Quote:
>Some things have me concernced with her health right now though. I haven't
>been given her any medicine since I got her and I don't have alot of funds

right >now to take her to a vet.

This is a very important step in owning a puppy, taking it to a vet.  I
would recommend that you really try to come up with enough to at least take
Pepper in for a fecal, and an ear check.    A lot of times if you wait on
things that are simple in the beginning, and try to treat them at home when
you're unsure of what the problem(s) really are, you can cause more harm
than good--and save yourself money in the long run by not having to pay for
"life or death" type situations.
I'm not saying that this is one of those--but since online it's hard for any
of us to diagnose what's wrong w/ Pepper, we can't tell anything for sure.

Quote:
>First, I would like to know what are some maintenance medications to

prevent >problems from arising? (Ear problems, worms,etc.) Another thing,
aren't there >signs or symptoms of worms?

Some worms are visible without a microscope (tapeworms, roundworms), but
some are not (hookworms, whipworms).   The best way to "discover" them is by
having your vet do a fecal exam.    Ear problems could be anything from
yeast infections, to allergies, to something caught in the ear (like a grass
seed), to ear mites.   If your puppy is from a pet shop, or an adoption
shelter, the chance of ear mites and worms are likely.

Quote:
> She has been eliminating in her house the last >day or so. She has been
>urinating outside when I take her out,

Wonderful!  It sounds like your on your way to potty training. :-)

Quote:
>but goes back to the door like she's finished and then later I realize she

has >made a mess in her house. I also noticed the form- its not as solid as
it normally >is...almost diarrhea but I'm not sure really. It's not runny,
just soft. I may be just >over reacting, but I get nervous when things are
alittle different than normal.

Is this a new problem, or has she been pooping in her "house" (is this her
kennel?) since you obtained her?    If it is a new problem, I would
*definitely* take her to the vet for a check up.    Oftentimes, with worm
problems the feces will be soft at first, then runny, then soupy, and
sometimes ***y---at this point, the dog is in dire need of help.     It is
easy to over react when it's a new puppy, however, I am one to wander on the
safe side--to over-react,  rather than under-react.

<snipped>

Quote:
> How can I tell she has an infection?

Honestly, if you're unsure, it will be difficult for you to tell.   They
could be red, stinky, yeasty smelling, have black gunk in there, all sorts
of things. :-)   Unless you know for sure what the problem is, how will you
know what to treat for?

Quote:
> I'm going tonight to get some *** and cotton balls to clean her ears

out, but >'m not sure if that's going to help or not?

Don't use ***!  It will dry the ears out so much that it will be very
uncomfortable.   There are all types of cleansers and products that you can
buy over the counter, costing anywhere from a few bucks to $10-$15.    And,
they *may* or *may not* help the problem.    At the very least, call your
veterinarian.  Building a good, trusting relationship is an important part
of puppy ownership.  If you don't have one yet for Pepper, call around to a
few different ones to find one that you like.   Ask your friends & family
where they go.   Ask your breeder.    If Pepper came from a responsible
breeder, they will/should  be more than happy to answer any & all questions
you have about your newest family member!

Quote:
>Any insight on this will be very helpful. Thank you in advance.

Best of luck, Karen.   Puppies cost money, it's a part of having one.   I
hope that Pepper is feeling better soon! :-)
Shelly, Coda & Guiness...
 
 
 

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Post by \ » Fri, 12 Apr 2002 03:02:51


Thank you SO much to your response. It helped alot.
I will be taking the necessary steps to take care of her soon.
Thanks again.
--
-Karen
"It seems if you believe in a dream enough, it has to come true"  -Bryan
White


Quote:
> Clear Day


> >Hello everyone.
> >I'm new to this group and actually a new puppy owner also. I got a
> Miniature >Schnauzer about 2 months ago (1st part of Feb.). She was about
8
> wks old, and >is now 17 wks old. Her name is Pepper. She is black and
> silver.

> Hi Karen and congratulations on your new puppy.  :-)  At 17 weeks, Pepper
> should have had most of her vaccinations *and* wormings by now.   Since
you
> acquired her at 8 weeks, she will most likely--at most--have had only 2 in
> her "puppy set".    She will need the remaining boosters/wormings,
> especially if you have concerns about worms.   Especially if she is going
> places where other dogs have been--even if they've not been on that soil
for
> over a few months.   Her problem could be more than worms, diarrhea is a
> first symtom of *many* canine maladies, including parvo, and giardia.
And,
> rubbing her ***on the carpet/etc. isn't always a valid way of
determining
> worms or not, dogs doing this also tend to be dogs that have ***
gland/sac
> issues.  It could be something as simple as stress, or food changes, but
> unless you know for sure, why take the chance?

> >Some things have me concernced with her health right now though. I
haven't
> >been given her any medicine since I got her and I don't have alot of
funds
> right >now to take her to a vet.

> This is a very important step in owning a puppy, taking it to a vet.  I
> would recommend that you really try to come up with enough to at least
take
> Pepper in for a fecal, and an ear check.    A lot of times if you wait on
> things that are simple in the beginning, and try to treat them at home
when
> you're unsure of what the problem(s) really are, you can cause more harm
> than good--and save yourself money in the long run by not having to pay
for
> "life or death" type situations.
> I'm not saying that this is one of those--but since online it's hard for
any
> of us to diagnose what's wrong w/ Pepper, we can't tell anything for sure.

> >First, I would like to know what are some maintenance medications to
> prevent >problems from arising? (Ear problems, worms,etc.) Another thing,
> aren't there >signs or symptoms of worms?

> Some worms are visible without a microscope (tapeworms, roundworms), but
> some are not (hookworms, whipworms).   The best way to "discover" them is
by
> having your vet do a fecal exam.    Ear problems could be anything from
> yeast infections, to allergies, to something caught in the ear (like a
grass
> seed), to ear mites.   If your puppy is from a pet shop, or an adoption
> shelter, the chance of ear mites and worms are likely.

> > She has been eliminating in her house the last >day or so. She has been
> >urinating outside when I take her out,

> Wonderful!  It sounds like your on your way to potty training. :-)

> >but goes back to the door like she's finished and then later I realize
she
> has >made a mess in her house. I also noticed the form- its not as solid
as
> it normally >is...almost diarrhea but I'm not sure really. It's not runny,
> just soft. I may be just >over reacting, but I get nervous when things are
> alittle different than normal.

> Is this a new problem, or has she been pooping in her "house" (is this her
> kennel?) since you obtained her?    If it is a new problem, I would
> *definitely* take her to the vet for a check up.    Oftentimes, with worm
> problems the feces will be soft at first, then runny, then soupy, and
> sometimes ***y---at this point, the dog is in dire need of help.     It
is
> easy to over react when it's a new puppy, however, I am one to wander on
the
> safe side--to over-react,  rather than under-react.

> <snipped>
> > How can I tell she has an infection?

> Honestly, if you're unsure, it will be difficult for you to tell.   They
> could be red, stinky, yeasty smelling, have black gunk in there, all sorts
> of things. :-)   Unless you know for sure what the problem is, how will
you
> know what to treat for?

> > I'm going tonight to get some *** and cotton balls to clean her ears
> out, but >'m not sure if that's going to help or not?

> Don't use ***!  It will dry the ears out so much that it will be very
> uncomfortable.   There are all types of cleansers and products that you
can
> buy over the counter, costing anywhere from a few bucks to $10-$15.
And,
> they *may* or *may not* help the problem.    At the very least, call your
> veterinarian.  Building a good, trusting relationship is an important part
> of puppy ownership.  If you don't have one yet for Pepper, call around to
a
> few different ones to find one that you like.   Ask your friends & family
> where they go.   Ask your breeder.    If Pepper came from a responsible
> breeder, they will/should  be more than happy to answer any & all
questions
> you have about your newest family member!

> >Any insight on this will be very helpful. Thank you in advance.

> Best of luck, Karen.   Puppies cost money, it's a part of having one.   I
> hope that Pepper is feeling better soon! :-)
> Shelly, Coda & Guiness...

 
 
 

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Post by Shelly & John Brosna » Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:18:08


Great!  I'm very glad to hear it, Karen! :-)
Working in a vet clinic, I oftentimes get disheartened by a puppy or other
animal that should have been taken in long before it finally it's owners
finally deem it
neccessary for treatment.   So often, they could have saved themselves (and
their puppy!) alot of pain and money if treated early.   It's like that old
saying, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."  :-)
Best of luck, and hope things work out well for you & Pepper!
Shelly, Coda & Guiness...



Quote:
> Thank you SO much to your response. It helped alot.
> I will be taking the necessary steps to take care of her soon.
> Thanks again.
> --
> -Karen
> "It seems if you believe in a dream enough, it has to come true"  -Bryan
> White


> > Clear Day


> > >Hello everyone.
> > >I'm new to this group and actually a new puppy owner also. I got a
> > Miniature >Schnauzer about 2 months ago (1st part of Feb.). She was
about
> 8
> > wks old, and >is now 17 wks old. Her name is Pepper. She is black and
> > silver.

> > Hi Karen and congratulations on your new puppy.  :-)  At 17 weeks,
Pepper
> > should have had most of her vaccinations *and* wormings by now.   Since
> you
> > acquired her at 8 weeks, she will most likely--at most--have had only 2
in
> > her "puppy set".    She will need the remaining boosters/wormings,
> > especially if you have concerns about worms.   Especially if she is
going
> > places where other dogs have been--even if they've not been on that soil
> for
> > over a few months.   Her problem could be more than worms, diarrhea is a
> > first symtom of *many* canine maladies, including parvo, and giardia.
> And,
> > rubbing her ***on the carpet/etc. isn't always a valid way of
> determining
> > worms or not, dogs doing this also tend to be dogs that have ***
> gland/sac
> > issues.  It could be something as simple as stress, or food changes, but
> > unless you know for sure, why take the chance?

> > >Some things have me concernced with her health right now though. I
> haven't
> > >been given her any medicine since I got her and I don't have alot of
> funds
> > right >now to take her to a vet.

> > This is a very important step in owning a puppy, taking it to a vet.  I
> > would recommend that you really try to come up with enough to at least
> take
> > Pepper in for a fecal, and an ear check.    A lot of times if you wait
on
> > things that are simple in the beginning, and try to treat them at home
> when
> > you're unsure of what the problem(s) really are, you can cause more harm
> > than good--and save yourself money in the long run by not having to pay
> for
> > "life or death" type situations.
> > I'm not saying that this is one of those--but since online it's hard for
> any
> > of us to diagnose what's wrong w/ Pepper, we can't tell anything for
sure.

> > >First, I would like to know what are some maintenance medications to
> > prevent >problems from arising? (Ear problems, worms,etc.) Another
thing,
> > aren't there >signs or symptoms of worms?

> > Some worms are visible without a microscope (tapeworms, roundworms), but
> > some are not (hookworms, whipworms).   The best way to "discover" them
is
> by
> > having your vet do a fecal exam.    Ear problems could be anything from
> > yeast infections, to allergies, to something caught in the ear (like a
> grass
> > seed), to ear mites.   If your puppy is from a pet shop, or an adoption
> > shelter, the chance of ear mites and worms are likely.

> > > She has been eliminating in her house the last >day or so. She has
been
> > >urinating outside when I take her out,

> > Wonderful!  It sounds like your on your way to potty training. :-)

> > >but goes back to the door like she's finished and then later I realize
> she
> > has >made a mess in her house. I also noticed the form- its not as solid
> as
> > it normally >is...almost diarrhea but I'm not sure really. It's not
runny,
> > just soft. I may be just >over reacting, but I get nervous when things
are
> > alittle different than normal.

> > Is this a new problem, or has she been pooping in her "house" (is this
her
> > kennel?) since you obtained her?    If it is a new problem, I would
> > *definitely* take her to the vet for a check up.    Oftentimes, with
worm
> > problems the feces will be soft at first, then runny, then soupy, and
> > sometimes ***y---at this point, the dog is in dire need of help.
It
> is
> > easy to over react when it's a new puppy, however, I am one to wander on
> the
> > safe side--to over-react,  rather than under-react.

> > <snipped>
> > > How can I tell she has an infection?

> > Honestly, if you're unsure, it will be difficult for you to tell.   They
> > could be red, stinky, yeasty smelling, have black gunk in there, all
sorts
> > of things. :-)   Unless you know for sure what the problem is, how will
> you
> > know what to treat for?

> > > I'm going tonight to get some *** and cotton balls to clean her
ears
> > out, but >'m not sure if that's going to help or not?

> > Don't use ***!  It will dry the ears out so much that it will be
very
> > uncomfortable.   There are all types of cleansers and products that you
> can
> > buy over the counter, costing anywhere from a few bucks to $10-$15.
> And,
> > they *may* or *may not* help the problem.    At the very least, call
your
> > veterinarian.  Building a good, trusting relationship is an important
part
> > of puppy ownership.  If you don't have one yet for Pepper, call around
to
> a
> > few different ones to find one that you like.   Ask your friends &
family
> > where they go.   Ask your breeder.    If Pepper came from a responsible
> > breeder, they will/should  be more than happy to answer any & all
> questions
> > you have about your newest family member!

> > >Any insight on this will be very helpful. Thank you in advance.

> > Best of luck, Karen.   Puppies cost money, it's a part of having one.
I
> > hope that Pepper is feeling better soon! :-)
> > Shelly, Coda & Guiness...