> I have a Mini dachshund mix about 20 lbs. He is impossibly bull
> We live in the county and a fence is out of the question.
> The problem is he chases the neighbors car, all the way to his
> stands and barks at him.
> I am looking at getting a training collar for him. I think that
is the best
> and the fastest way to get him to stop.
> Is there a special type or brand that is for smaller dogs, I
> collars but they may be too big.
Here's some of the MENTAL CASES you're askin:
Date: 2003-05-14 10:40:29 PST
> > > ok - you have me intrigued - HOW do you
> > > advocate training a dog to stay home / in the yard?
> > It can be done.
> > But people like most of us on this list,
You mean the liars and dog abusers who
jerk and ***dogs on pronged spiked
pinch ***collars and shock and lock
them in boxes and kill the dogs they're
AFRAID to HURT noMOORE?
> > love and cherish our dogs too much to run this risk.
Yeah... IOW, they can't train their own dogs to
stay behind their shock fences. Ask liea altshuller.
> > My neighbors have two Lacy dogs that chase us
> > daily down the road.
> > But they do stay at their house when they aren't
> > chasing cars.
That so? The Puppy Wizzzard trained HIS neighbor's
dog to not chase cars in a couple seconds over a
couple of days.
> > If I do ever hit one of those dogs
That'd be a shame, wouldn't it? Especially you
knowin they're likely to be there.
> > I will be going after the owner for extreme distress.
Yeah. That's kindly of you, gwen honey. Tell us
abHOWEt your shock collar seminar?
Hey? HOWE COME you use a shock fence, gwen honey?
> > And there have been many times I have contemplated
> > taking them to the shelter for their own safety.
You think you'd might run over their kids if they was
playin where the dogs play? You think you'd exercise
MOORE care if the neighbor's kids was abHOWETs?
> > Then again they would probably be euthanized
> > fairly quickly.
NO PROBLEMO, gwen honey. Your pal diddler
just freakin shoots and kills them in *** traps.
> > At least this way they *may* live another 1-5 years.
You think you can avoid runnin them down that long?
> > I have to say I love my dogs
You jerk and ***and shock and lock them in boxes.
> > and they are my family members.
You shock your family.
> > There is no way I would consider what you are considering.
YOU MEAN, PERIMETER TRAIN THE DOG?
> > Again a neighbor could very well justifiably shoot your
> > dog if it gets into their yard.
Yeah. Like your pals loise and diddler.
> > Especially if there is livestock.
Makes for a great excuese to kill a dog.
But your pal diddler will shoot a dog for
just gettin into his garbage... like loise.
> > Gwen
Oh, bye the bye gwen honey? You can't post here noMOORE.
> Thats my problem, the neighbors dont mind the dog "visiting" ,
> my last dog was a real diplomat at large, everyone loved her
> because of her good nature.
That's your business.
> One guy even bbq'd her steaks when she came to visit!
> I asked them to chase her away,
That's not nice... that's not HOWE we'd treat a embassador... is
> which may have cured her wanderlust, but they wouldnt.
No, it wouldn't.
> Anytime I see another dog in my yard I scare the
> bejeesus out of it and it usually never sets foot in
> my yard again,
> just wish my neighbors would do the same, I have
> different ones now so they may.
That's not the best way HOWE to train your dog.
> And I dont blame people for getting upset at dogs
Like your dogs?
> especially if they start to pack up, as
> they will if given the chance.
> And I have no problem whatsoever with a farmer
> shooting a dog on his property, totally justified and
> its the owners fault for not keeping it confined.
> I am just hoping I can get a dog like my first one,
Dog trainin ain't LUCK.
> just by his nature he would NOT leave the property,
Takes The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Students a
couple minutes to perimeter train their dogs.
> and I never even used to train him for that, he just wouldnt!
See HOWE EZ it is to train a dog to stay on his own territory?
It's freakin INSTINCTIVE.
> If this one does not have that nature,
Oh. That's EZ! That can be trained in minutes.
> then I'll have to have him on a tether or in a run,
Or a nice shock fence like gwen honey relies on.
> which I dont like to do, but I have rigged
> a leash system with 3 pieces of rope and
> 3 pulleys where he can access almost all
> of the yard, they just have a knack of
> getting tangled once in a while arounf trees etc...
BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS
CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR
Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE.
> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
> I do know she's not here with us. I really can't
> blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one
> who ignored your advice. I did it because
> of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to
> accept the idea that my using a shock collar
> could have any bearing on Peach not wanting
> to stay home.
> Up until I started using it my main concern
> had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.
> Once I started using the e-fence...well, then
> my concern became how to keep them from
> running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming
> embroiled in the anti-shock debate and
> the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog
> in the world now <g> A Wits End Trained
> dog, one who is completely housetrained,
> doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard,
> and doesn't bark all the time. IOW a great
> companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this
> Spring. Two dogs, two collars We now have
> one dog and no collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence,
> not want to come back in the yard and
> would run for days. The last time, Peach
> didn't come back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to
> learn how to train my dog. She is now
> border trained. A few minutes each day
> reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.
> She no longer runs out into the road, I
> can stop her from chasing cats and
> she no longer cringes when we
> walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how
> much I hate the e-fence and its collars.
> If you can't get a regular fence then
> you need to train your dog.
> I will never rely on an electronic collar
> to keep my dog in our yard again.
> The price was too high:-(
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile ***at the hands of supposedly
*** dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
Director of Research,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
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