and training dogs.
he sent you to?
continue to increase treats with improved behavior?
You ain't got no answer for that, do you carol? Look at
what you're doin. You tell the dog to watch you and treat
for good behavior. Then you discontinue the 'rewards?'
Or do you increase the reward?
from that and everything else you tell her.
to like other dogs and be safe and friendly?
spiked pinch ***collar, wasn't it carol? Did you advance to
the shock collar? Or did her turning on you for hurting her in
the presence of other dogs scare you away from HURTING
her someMOORE? Or did she pull you down and break your rib
before you got to that? See the thread "broken rib."
his thoughts TOO FAR AWAY from the problem you're training.
> something that I want so now you're about to get a treat?"
You're clicker will never be effective as long as it's paired with food.
> Finn to other dogs?
> learn to ignore them and focus on you?
would have got over his anxiety in that time anyHOWE
without the click cue.
I think the narcotics and pain he was in was moore responsible
for distracting him from the other dogs. The bad hip made him
not pull, and the diminished tension on his collar was what
cured the aggression.
> the clicker because he knew what he was supposed to do?
it only cues an unthinking behavior.
agility except on the table and that silly yellow paws line on
the gizmo. The teamwork alone, should cause the work to
flow flawlessly cause the dog is in such high gear working
with his partner, as in hunting... That's HOWE COME I can't
imagine youz guys twisting and pinching and shocking and
*** dogs to make them to their most favorite doggy jobs.
long after ***y maida and his competitor taught your dog to
turn on you for hurting her when she growled at other dogs,
EXACTLY as I TOLD YOU SO.
that when she's on lead on heel, she's not convinced you are
in control cause you're not issuing commands and threatening
her, as she's been forced to heel with your pain inflicting devices
till they're no longer meaningful. That means you've got to increase
the pressure. The pressure is already at MAXIMUM, that's HOWE
COME she's turned on you for hurting her in the presence of other
dogs, and that's HOWE COME she'll bolt and break your ribs,
unelss you're HYPERVIGILANT and prepared to HURT her TO
aggression in under three days, by learning HOWE
to handle the dog without pain and intimidation.
Nevyn cured his two *** fighing pit x kelpie ***es
in 23 days flat.
copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.
Write me for the latest edition.
Wits' End Dog Training Method manual if I'd lay off of
exposing him "cause he's got to make a living."
manual! My two mutts have gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient well
behaved companions within a matter of weeks! AND My friends have seen the
success and have asked me to work on their dogs! I was working with a 5
month old Ridgeback female today and she was being an angel after like an
hour of working with her! it is AMAZING!! I pity those fools who take their
dogs to classes where the "Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they have a
degree? A masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes off the
street who think they know how to train dogs!)
Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!
NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.
Never give out your password or credit card number in an
instant message conversation.
How are you?
My dogs are alot better now!
I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats
what did you do, buy a shock collar?
you think they're 100% better
'cept they still bark at the neighbour but only coz he swears at them and
pours water on them
nahh they still have stinky breath!
I'll go for that
it'll take a couple more days to break the neighbor thing if you're
then he won't swear and throw water at them
yeah but he's only out on the weekends
but they'll still have stinky breath
you gonna write the group and tell them they're suckin hind teat?
my news server isn't workin
how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it
sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server
you got anything you'd like to tell the dog lovers who would prefer
to see you ***and shock and lock your dogs in a box?
I guess you don't want to tell them nuthin that they don't already know,
tell them they're ***ers who need to die
dogs aren't for abusing they are for loving they love so much
that's HOWE COME they got me now
howe much training time did it take for the two of 'em?
it didn't even seem like training
its been 24 days since I got your manual
have you got that feeling that they're in tune with EVERYTHING you're
wanting them to do?
I forgot what city you're in.
maybe if you're near alphalpha sweeny you can swing by and LAUGH your ass
off at him growling at his dogs???
I'm in Perth, Australia!
and yes they do seem to be in tune
oh!! the other day my dogs went into *** position when a
tiny little toy poodle came up barking at them! !LOL
they knew they didn't need to fight, cause everything was in
your expert control.
Keep up the good work. j;~)
Subject: Newsgroups: rec. pets. dogs. behavior
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Date: 2002-03-01 03:15:50 PST
I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly are Blue Heeler
(spots) x Kelpi (*** genes) x American Pitbull (behavioural) x Pug
They are gentle loving dogs when I'm at home with them, and they are
friendly with unknown people. They are sisters. One is obviously
*** over the other, and I don't have a problem with that,
Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they are very good whilst I'm
walking them, some days they are not. They are 3 years old and have
only been walking for about 12 months because my mom didn't walk them
and now I'm home so I walk them for about an hour and half every
afternoon. I take them to the park where they chase birds and swim in
This is my problem :
The less-*** dog viscously barks at every other dog we walk
past; I have tried using a stick and giving her a tap when she does it,
and treating her with treats when she doesn't, using a ***chain, a
muzzle and a thing that sprays stuff in her mouth when she barks.
She won't stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her? ]
Also, the more-*** dog seems to know this is WRONG, when the
other dog barks, she doesn't bark, but she nips at the other dog as if
telling her to cut it out, and then the barking one attacks the
more-*** one and they fight on the leash... it is quite
disturbing to the people walking past.
And also the more-*** one is okay around other
dogs... SOMETIMES... sometimes she completely ignores them, and yet
other times she will attack them, like yesterday. The less ***
one I must keep on a leash if a person brings there dog to the park.
How do I stop them attacking other dogs? I have tried all the methods
I have used above for 10 months every afternoon. Is it just a pac
It can really be quite embarrassing when your dogs attack some old
lady's or little girl's dog.
They are good dogs, when at home or when there are no other dogs
around. Today there were hundreds of sparrows flying around the park
and they were chasing them and jumping up trying to catch them for
more than 90 minutes (They went straight to bed when I bought them
home!). Can anyone help me? Email me at my emails address,
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter
> Dear Jerry,
> Just thought I would write to let you know how well Hunter
> is doing. He had been trained using the conventional methods
> for obedience. He had gotten used to a choker and a pinch collar.
> Alot of pain and a lot of jerking around. I had also tried using positive
> reinforcement methods that I had been trained in. He was so busy
> looking for the treat that he didn't really want to work.
> So I went back to using the pinch collar on him and also a gentle leader
> when we were in public.
> Slowly by degrees his behavior got worse and he did deserve his reputation
> as a vicious dog. The vet had recommended that he be put down. I was in a
> panic when I found your web site.
> Thanks! He is now the happy dog that I first started out with 5 years ago.
> I am a professional trainer and it was distressing to me that I could not
> help my own dog. I had been told that some dogs don't respond to any
> kind of training and that a vicious dog can never be trusted again.
> I disagree! Hunter is a sight hound and now I can take him with me and he
> doesn't chase cars as much anymore which is one of his main problems.
> We are working on the dog aggression thing. And I am confident that will
> be successful too. I also have your BIOSOUND machine and that too is
> working good. I know of several rescue groups that would benefit from it.
> This is rather long I know but it comes from the heart. My Head Hunter
> Green and I have together along time and have been through so much
> Thank you for helping me save his life.
> Kay Pierce
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: The...
It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that maligning
you and your training manual but tell them from me that it does work.
Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.
I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over there
to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him for growling at me.
I told her to tell him what a good boy he is instead. Lo and behold
he stopped growling and I could do his nails. All 4 feet.
My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method and
my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten his
enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more pleased.
He even tried to kiss a child the other day. Major break through.
This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids through
the fence. I can now take him in the car with me again without him
trying to chase cars through the windshield.
So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training is Do No
The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.
Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was diagnosed
aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my side where he belongs.
Thank you so much.