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Socialization, Shelter / Rescue, Lies, Myth And MENTAL ILLNESS

Post by Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat.. » Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:20:56



HOWEDY People,

If you READ REAL GOOD an REAL S-L-O-W you'll learn HOWE
COME these pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in punk
thug coward active acute chronic life long incurable MENTAL CASES
 HURT INTIMIDATE an *** dogs an LIE abHOWET IT:

HOWEDY digitydew aka sd,


Quote:

> Well, I hasten to add that he turned out pretty well,
> in spit of his poor start in life.

I take it THAT AIN'T the dog you GOT RID OF
on accHOWENTA you COULDN'T TRAIN IT:
"We have felt nothing but relief now that she is gone."?

"Socialization" is DONE by the time the pup leaves his litterbox:


Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:53:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Critical Socialization

Quote:

> Okay, but if you're not still speechless, then explain why
> more than 60% of Americans who take their dogs to a puppy
> class report that the dog didn't learn anything and that
> the experience was basically a waste of time and money?

Leah:

Quote:
> That one's easy.  Because they didn't PRACTICE.

 <snip>

Quote:
> if they don't continue to use what they learned after
> class, of course the dogs are going to regress.

"Of course?"  You have a pretty low opinion of a puppy's
ability to learn and remember, even though they do it all
the time with no repetitions and no regression.

Or just maybe they *didn't* regress.  Maybe they didn't really
learn anything in class because the kind of training you use is
DETRIMENTAL TO THE LEARNING PROCESS, as I stated earlier.

If it were real learning then the dogs
wouldn't, "of course" regress, would they?

Maybe you remember the example I gave of a dog at the
dog run who instantly learned a new behavior WHILE PLAYING,
and never forgot it.

Or the example I gave about my dog learning the command,
"Up the stairs!", once, just once, and has never regressed
or forgotten the lesson.

He'll still do it every single time, eleven years after he
learned it.  Hang on, I'm going to take him out in the hall
right now, where his expecation is to go DOWN the stairs,
not up, and I'm going to tell him, "Up the stairs!" to see
if he really does still remember it . . .

Yep, he went right up the stairs when I told him to, so nope,
he hasn't regressed.  I wonder why that is.

But then, I forgot: you believe that learning can't take
place without repetition, so "of course" the puppy will
regress if the owner doesn't keep up with the lessons.

That's only natural, right?  Wrong.

Maybe it's time to give credence to the idea that there's
another model of learning -- which comes naturally to all
animals -- and which doesn't require repetition or the
expectation that the learning will regress.

Just a thought . . .


Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:57:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Critical

Quote:

> Yep, he went right up the stairs when I told him to, so nope,
> he hasn't regressed.  I wonder why that is.

Leah

:> Duh.  Because you USE the command regularly?

Who sez?  I've gone years without using it at all.

And you're forgetting the fact that a day or two after I
taught him the command (inside the apartment building where
we lived at the time), I was walking Fred along a street on
the way to the park.  I stopped in front of a brownstone, a
building we'd never been (and still haven't).

I gave him the command and he immediately obeyed it.  The second
time in his life he heard it, he obeyed it, even though there was no
possible reason for him to do so, other than the fact that I told him
to.

 Why?

I also taught him once, just once, not to cross a curb
without me.  He hasn't forgotten that one either.

Why?

Leah: >> If the owner knows the method to stop the puppy from
          >> pulling on the leash, yet lets the puppy pull him all
          >> over the place, the puppy will not stop pulling on the
          >> leash.
          >>
          >>This is a no-brainer.

No, *this* is: If the puppy had actually been taught not
to pull on the leash, he would stop pulling on the leash.

I'm sure everyone here, if they thought about it, could
come up with their own examples (like the one I gave about
the dog learning a new behavior WHILE PLAYING in the dog
run) of dogs they've observed learning a new behavior once,
and never forgetting it.

  It's the most natural form of learning there is.

But it requires that the dog be in a high-level emotional
state when the learning takes place, which is something
that *can't* be accomplished  in a puppy class.

Puppy clases are, generally speaking, detrimental
to the learning process.

          ================

LeeCharlesKelley Wrote:

 From what I've read of Jerry's method it incorporates
a completely new model of learning, which is based
(in simplest terms) on the idea that all behavior is
the result of finding a way to relieve emotional tension.
This is true not just for dogs but all animals.
You don't believe in the validity of this particular model
of learning?  You don't think it makes sense?

 Fine, I guess.
But it makes total sense to me.

And it made sense to Pavlov, too,
though not many people know this.

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement."
IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are
what reinforces any behavior.

Finn once saw a small mouse come out of a hole
atthe base of a tree. Needless to say his prey
instinct kicked in BIG TIME and he chased it
back into the hole.  This was 7 years before
he died. Up until the very last time he walked
through that section of the park (an hour before
he went) he checked the base of that tree.

He saw that mouse exactly *once*....he never
saw it again. Don't we all have stories like
that?

Especially those of us with dogs whose prey drives are pretty
intense?

And there are lots of examples that may not
even require the prey drive to be active,
just a strong desire to do something: a dog
who wants to escape from the back yard will
learn how to do it once and never forget it,
a dog who wants to jump on the couch or the
bed doesn't need any repetitions to "reinforce"
or re-learn the behavior.

If something is important to a dog, he'll
learn how to do it.  Once he learns it, he
learns it.  The trick to getting him to
"unlearn" it, is to give him a more
emotionally satisfying replacement behavior.

With Oscar and the cat, the more satisfying
behavior was relating to me instead of the cat.
(He's a Lab, with a strong need for social
connections, so that was pretty easy.)

I've been experimenting recently with Jerry
Howe's method of using a sound distraction,
then praising the dog, without any physical
contact, for 15 seconds.

My initial reaction to his technique was that
it was silly to keep praising the dog that long.

I mean, Jerry's a nut, right?

But in every case except one, when I've followed
the exercise exactly, I've seen a definite
physiological change take place in the dog -
- yawning or stretching have been the usual
indicators -- and after only a few repetitions,
the dog often relaxes, curls up, and goes to sleep!

I've tried this on barking, counter-surfing,
separation anxiety, even two dogs who live
together and fight constantly.  I was pretty
amazed when I saw this little Boston give up
her aggression and start to yawn!

It's too early for me to be convinced that it
will work every single time with every single
dog, or that it will even have a lasting effect
on these dogs, but so far I think that it's
effective at reducing emotional tension, which,
as you know, I believe that all behavior comes
from the dog trying to find a way to reduce
emotional tension.  If you give the dog a
replacement behavior that successfully reduces
emotional tension, the first behavior will no
longer be necessary and the dog will stop doing it.

          ------------------

Quote:
> He just isn't as friendly as I'd like.

BWEEEAAAHAHAAAAA!!!:

From: Eric

Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding *** peeing.  Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes.  Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain
rather than beating ass or pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who
beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship".  He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)...  Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

              ---------------


HOWEDY Group,

Here some SUCCESS STORIES ive had using JERRY'S MANUAL

1) My dogz, two ***es - Vicious, barking, aggressive, pulled
on leash, wanted to ...

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Socialization, Shelter / Rescue, Lies, Myth And MENTAL ILLNESS

Post by Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat.. » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 07:14:00


HOWEDY cujo desockpuppet you pathetic miserable
stinkin lyin animal abusin punk  thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable MENTAL CASE,


Quote:


>> Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_

                           Research_Laboratory

Quote:

>>> HOWEDY People,

>>> If you READ REAL GOOD an REAL S-L-O-W you'll learn HOWE
>>> COME these pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in punk
>>> thug coward active acute chronic life long incurable MENTAL
>>> CASES HURT INTIMIDATE an *** dogs an LIE
>>> abHOWET IT:

>>> HOWEDY digitydew aka sd,



>>>> Well, I hasten to add that he turned out pretty well,
>>>> in spit of his poor start in life.

>>> I take it THAT AIN'T the dog you GOT RID OF
>>> on accHOWENTA you COULDN'T TRAIN IT:
>>> "We have felt nothing but relief now that she is gone."?

>>> "Socialization" is DONE by the time the pup leaves his litterbox:


>>> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:53:11 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: Critical Socialization


>>>> Okay, but if you're not still speechless, then explain why
>>>> more than 60% of Americans who take their dogs to a puppy
>>>> class report that the dog didn't learn anything and that
>>>> the experience was basically a waste of time and money?

>>> Leah:

>>>> That one's easy.  Because they didn't PRACTICE.

>>>  <snip>

>>>> if they don't continue to use what they learned after
>>>> class, of course the dogs are going to regress.

>>> "Of course?"  You have a pretty low opinion of a puppy's
>>> ability to learn and remember, even though they do it all
>>> the time with no repetitions and no regression.

>>> Or just maybe they *didn't* regress.  Maybe they didn't really
>>> learn anything in class because the kind of training you use is
>>> DETRIMENTAL TO THE LEARNING PROCESS, as I stated earlier.

>>> If it were real learning then the dogs
>>> wouldn't, "of course" regress, would they?

>>> Maybe you remember the example I gave of a dog at the
>>> dog run who instantly learned a new behavior WHILE PLAYING,
>>> and never forgot it.

>>> Or the example I gave about my dog learning the command,
>>> "Up the stairs!", once, just once, and has never regressed
>>> or forgotten the lesson.

>>> He'll still do it every single time, eleven years after he
>>> learned it.  Hang on, I'm going to take him out in the hall
>>> right now, where his expecation is to go DOWN the stairs,
>>> not up, and I'm going to tell him, "Up the stairs!" to see
>>> if he really does still remember it . . .

>>> Yep, he went right up the stairs when I told him to, so nope,
>>> he hasn't regressed.  I wonder why that is.

>>> But then, I forgot: you believe that learning can't take
>>> place without repetition, so "of course" the puppy will
>>> regress if the owner doesn't keep up with the lessons.

>>> That's only natural, right?  Wrong.

>>> Maybe it's time to give credence to the idea that there's
>>> another model of learning -- which comes naturally to all
>>> animals -- and which doesn't require repetition or the
>>> expectation that the learning will regress.
>>> Just a thought.
>> Long overdue, I nominate Jerry Howe (A.K.A.)
>> "The Puppy Wizard" for Golden Killfile.

>> (note the 2838 lines of quoted scr33d)

>> <http://www.moonsgarden.com/;

>> Any seconds?

> Long overdue. Seconded.

> I see Puppy***er already got the Unabomber.

INDEEDY! AND the Full Canvass Jacket  AND the
VICTOR VON FRANKENSTEIN "WEIRD SCIENCE"
 AWARD for HIS Award Winning Posts!

HOWEver, JUST DON'T QUOTE them or you'll be KILLFIELD
by the MENTAL PATIENTS who HURT INTIMIDATE BRIBE
***SHOCK MUTILATE an *** innocent defenseless
dumb critters an LIE abHOWET it.


Date: 20 Oct 2005 18:03:30 -0700
Subject: Award Winning Posts! Re: HOWE To Read The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's CONfHOWENDING Posts

WINNERS! Usenet Kook Awards, April 2005

VICTOR VON FRANKENSTEIN "WEIRD SCIENCE" AWARD

The winner is... JERRY HOWE!

  Jerry "Puppy Wizard" Howe . . 24
  neither of the above  . . . . 13
  ring_theory . . . . . . . . . 10

Congratulations, Puppy Wizard! I don't own a dog,
so perhaps you'll be willing to supply one when
I order your amazing dog-training machine?

               ------------------

Thank YOU WON an ALL!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't SELL dogs.
HOWEver, on occasion HE may have a fine dog
lookin for a fine HOWES and when the time
comes will certainly consider your request.

Yours,

Jerry HOWE, The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ )  >

NHOWE on to the NEXT AWARDS!:

                 Full Canvas Jacket
           Noteworthy Unhinged Lunatic Rants

# 15 May 2001, Jerry Howe: "Fear Of Thunder & Pronged
***Collars = Fasten Your Seat Belts, And Prepare
To Take A Quantum Leap Into Awareness, LIKE IT OR NOT"


Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:25:54 GMT
Subject: And the prestigious Full Canvas Jacket award goes to.... Me!
Thank you, I'm Honored. And I'm BULLETPROOF j,-)

Thank you, People. I'm honored. I think you've chosen
one of my most meaningful posts.

Coincidentally, I was just talking with the Mrs. about the ideas
expressed in the message below, before we'd found out I'd been
humbled by this majestic achievement.

Our discussion was about rewards. The question I proposed
was "do dogs understand the concept of bonanzas or jackpots
or bonus rewards, as we recently heard our "expert" field
dog trainers discuss?

I think it was susan fraser or sionnach or amy dahl or leah
giving us some BS about giving the dogs an extra bonus reward
for completing a couple of perfect commands.

Would we compare a dogs' perception of the value of one grain
of kibble Vs a cup of kibble and/or a random bonus reward for
excellent work, to our sense of satisfaction comparing the value of a
windfall like a door prize Vs the achievement of
answering the $64,000.00 Question (an old T.V. Quiz show like
Jeapordy)?

My Mrs. took this to it's next logical step, that dogs only
know good.

I asked her HOWE does she know that? "Easy, it says so in
the Lotus Sutra. Good is good, we don't need to be concerned
with degrees."

Quote:
> Unhinged Lunatic Rant of the Week

So, if you'd be so kind as to consider her for the next award,
I'd be singularly doubly quadrupled blessed. That's about HOWE
dogs learn once we teach them to use those sections of their
brain that is responsible for rationalization, thinking, and
solving problems.

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo. Nam
Myoho Renge Kyo. Thank you. j,~)

                  ------------

"Fear Of Thunder & Pronged ***Collars = Fasten Your
Seat Belts, And Prepare To Take A Quantum Leap Into
Awareness, LIKE IT OR NOT" Posted by Jerry Howe to the
newsgroup rec.pets.dogs.behavior 15 May, 2001


Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:42:01 GMT
Subject: Full Canvas Jacket Award "Fear Of Thunder & Pronged ***
Collars"

Hello spamh8r,


Quote:
> Just happened last month, too!

Thanks man, I'm freaking bulletproof, don'tcha thaink???

Quote:
> Wonder if he got his medal or trophy yet...    ;-)

When my feet hit the ground I'll let you know and you kan come
pin it on me. That'll be such an honor, eh? I don't take these
awards lightly. Acknowledgements like this are treasures to be
cherished always. The prestigious Full Canvas Jacket Award is
a stellar achievement immortalizing me yet again, in
***space.

Quote:
> http://www.moonsgarden.com/

Check it out. That's one of my best posts. I hope you read it,
there's some profound info there for ya, if you're able to
understand it.


Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:12:09 GMT

Subject: Re: [SPANK] Spankademy Awards 2004

HOWEDY People!

Quote:

> It is with with tremendous honour and pleasure
> that we at the Slap Special Kook Award Consortium

Oh? You mean, as in CHIN CHUCK?

There's some debate as to whether a CHIN
CHUCK is a slap or not. professora gingold
sez "chin chuck absolutely doesn't mean slap."
captain haggerty believes a chin chuck is a
S-HOWNED DISTRACTION:

captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK"
Makes A ResoundingSound Distraction: "When
You Chuck The Dog The Sound Will Travel Up
The Mandible To The Ears And Give A Popping
Sound To The Dog."

Quote:
> present........ The first annual
> Spankademy Awards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is aghast!

Quote:
><MAJOR APPLAUSE AND SCREAMING

INDEEDY! The Amazing Puppy Wizard KNEW right
from the git go from just readin the subject
header that this prestigiHOWES award was gonna
bless HONOURABLE MENTION upon The Amazing Puppy
Wizard!

Quote:
> You are witnessing a truly historical
> moment in Usenet history.

INDEED!

As the prHOWEdest holder of the covetted
Full Canvass Jacket Award for "Fear Of
Thunder and Pronged Spiked Pinch ***
Collars," no dHOWET you're award The
Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't approve
of spankin...

Quote:
> Before you, we have half a dozen kooks,

The dog groups have DOZENS of certified
lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and
active long term incurable mental cases,
all prestigiHOWESLY archived forever on
Google.com

Quote:
> all of whom consider themselves to be the
> sole centre of the Usenetverse.

That's impossible. There's NO room at the top.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> But

...

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Socialization, Shelter / Rescue, Lies, Myth And MENTAL ILLNESS

Post by Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat.. » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 07:21:11


HOWEDY woodchuck bill you pathetic malignant
miserable stinkin lyin animal abusin punk thug
coward active acute chronic life long incurable
MENTAL CASE,


Quote:
> Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory wrote

>> > HOWEDY People,

>> > If you READ REAL GOOD an REAL S-L-O-W you'll learn HOWE
>> > COME these pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in punk
>> > thug coward active acute chronic life long incurable MENTAL CASES
>> > HURT INTIMIDATE an *** dogs an LIE abHOWET IT:
> Long overdue, I nominate Jerry Howe (A.K.A.)
> "The Puppy Wizard" for Golden Killfile.
> (note the 2838 lines of quoted scr33d)
> <http://www.moonsgarden.com/;
> Any seconds?
> --
> Bill

               --------------

For SHORE, billy! You'll find LOTS of like minded
pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal abusin punk
thug coward ignorameHOWESES like yourself RIGHT HERE!:

HOWEDY Soup,

Seems jenn's post didn't show up on my news reader. Here's
my reply to the post you're responding to. Thanks for the
top posting advice, we wouldn't want to rock the boat:



Quote:
> Howedy Jenn,
> Please don't top post. Some people in Europe get charged
> extra for top posted material.
> Thank you for cooperating.

Thank you for not buckling under the overwhelming wealth
of viciousness and stupidity from our alleged dog lovers.

Here's my reply to jenn:

HOWEDY jenn,

Quote:
> Jerry] Re: occasional post-this newsgroup (rest of header
> snipped) [Jerry]
> Date: 2002-07-23 01:44:43 PST
> Note: the following post is a long response to Jerry Howe.

Imagine?

Quote:
> This is to prevent people who don't care from having to read it.

Excuse me jenn, but that's not quite correct. Those "people"
who "don't care to read it" read Jerry's posts first. They're
worried about everyone else reading Jerry's posts cause
they're afraid people will GET WISE to their ***
to defend koehler and shock and pronged spiked pinch
***collar training...

Quote:
> Sorry if that pisses you off Jerry,

Your pals who call for killfiling Jerry are not concerned
with JERRY, they're concerned with ANY non *** trainer
who's ever posted here because they cannot justify HURTING
and KILLING dogs when there's few trainers like Jerry and
Soup and Marilyn hangin out here.

That's HOWE COME your professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM
lying doc SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!' into its face for
5 seconds" dermer KILLFILED MARILYN for reporting an INSTANT
CURE for her destructive separation anxiety students of hers.

Marilyn's got thirty years experience training dogs and
is a student of Jerry's. You got any idea HOWE COME
our professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM would want to
KILLFILE and experienced trainer who's discovered
an INSTANT CURE for destructive separation anxiety,
jenn?

Ask Marilyn. She's never been RUDE to nobody here,
jenn. The fact is, your pals are conspirators, liars,
and dog abusers. Ask Marilyn, she'd tell you if she
wasn't afraid of OFFENDING nobody.

That's HOWE COME I don't speak to marilyn noMOORE, jenn,
cause she's got a lack of m***integrity, as I see it
in not being FORTHRIGHT about these issues so stupid
neophyte nitwits like you don't get sucked in and deceived
by our EXPERIENCED LYING DOG ABUSING COWARD THUG CONSPIRATORS.

Quote:
> but you're pissed off anyway,

NOT AT YOU, jenn. I'm pissed off at Marilyn for not wanting
to upset the apple cart and LYING BY OMISSION... as to what's
goin down here on our forum.

Quote:
> on so I'm really not really affecting you.

Our dog lovers want you to trim cross posts and snip
text and put NINNYBOY in the subject header so folks
who've been DECEIVED as you have won't accidentally
find out who's been LYING to them, jenn. Ask Marilyn
if you don't believe me. Go ahead...

Quote:


>> Annoys? Or do you mean EMBARRASSES?
> Um, nope. If it embarrassed, I would not be responding.

We'll see. I'll go through your objections and you'll see
what I'm tellin you is the truth and you'll have NO CHOICE
but to KILLFILE JERRY because THAT IS The EPITOME
of The SYNDROME.

Quote:
>> > > > Haltis and the like, as with any collar, halter,
>> > > > harness and leash, can be used improperly and is
>> > > > therefore harmful to the dog.

I see. You think discussing the GL is an acceptable subterfuge
for the real issues that perhaps you are not even aware of because
that too, IS the EPITOME of The SYNDROME.

This "flame war" is NOT about Jerry jenn. Jerry is the only trainer
besides Soup who is able to withstand the constant lies abuse
email and telephone harassment and personal attacks over
teaching people to handle and train dogs WITHOUT HURTING
them. Ask marilyn, jenn. Once marilyn levels with you and your
little CHUMP CHUMS, then PERHAPS I'll reconsider entertaining
her friendship, but with a much closer eye on her INTEGRITY.

Quote:
>> > > NO. That's a lie.
>> > No, it is not.

I just told you it is and I offered PROOF.

Quote:
>> I just told you it is.
> We could "s'not, so" about that all night, Jerry.

NO YOU CAN'T, cause you'll KILLFILE JERRY when you
cannot answer the HARD questions, jenn. Ask professor
lying doc SCRUFF SHAKE dermer HOWE he reconciles his
scruff shake with allelomimetic behavior?

That's HOWE COME he MUST killfile Jerry and all his students.

Quote:
>> > With all your talk about mishandling, how can you
>> > say that misuse of "equipment" is a lie?

The "equipment" is INTENDED BY DESIGN to INFLICT PAIN
FEAR and FORCE jenn. That GL is neither gentle nor a leader,
it's a vicious neck twister device and the INSTRUCTIONS for
their "certified" fitters is INTENDED TO BREAK the dog's
REFLEXIVE RESPONSE to being FORCES TO SUBMIT, jenn.

That's what causes hyperactivity and aggression and self
***, jenn. That's HOWE COME you can't get away
punishing and *** and shocking dogs jenn, cause behaviors
are all CONNECTED, and when we REPRESS one behavior that
behavior doesn't go away as if by MAGICK as they do when
I extinguish the behavior by interrupting the thought process.

That REPRESSION causes ANXIETY to go deep within, where it
attacks the parasympathetic nervous and endocrine systems
and GETS DOGS DEAD, jenn.

IT'S CALLED The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{}: ~ ) >

Ask marilyn. She PROBABLY understands that well enough now
after having thirty sumpthin years experience professionally
training dogs and now having three years of using my methods.

Look at HOWE my students are treated here when they report
near INSTANT CURES for their dog's behavior problems, they're
called LIARS and FORGERIES by myself and PAID SHILLS FOR
JERRY and ANIMAL ***ERS, jenn.

What's up with that, jenn? Ask Nevyn. He won't post here no
moore for your dog lover pals to ridicule him, so like marilyn,
he can go fry his ass as far as Jerry's concerned. Too bad,
cause Nevyn was fixin to become a professional trainer, and
I was just about to give him my lesson plan which he's gonna
need bye and bye, and he won't be gettin it unless he asks
on our forum so you and your pals can ridicule him and call
him a liar someMOORE as they do me and Soup.

Quote:
>> Because the INSTRUCTIONS for fitting the GL are INTENDED
>> to TRIGGER the opposition reflex and OVERRIDE IT with
>> PAIN FEAR and FORCE jenn....I did a report on the manufacture's
>> instructions.
> Yes, I know this. It inspired me to look into how the GL is
> fitted as used myself, and I agree with you on this.

Imagine? And that wasn't enough to make you KILLFILE Jerry?

That gravely concerns me, jenn. If you don't get angry and take
this PERSONALLY and KILLFILE Jerry cause you can't DISCUSS
the issues, that'd disprove The SYNDROME and I'm outta gas, jenn.

Quote:
> Things I have said about the GL in the past are not things
> I believe anymore.

IMAGINE? And HOWE do you figure all your pals out there believing
they're being KIND to their dogs as they intimidate them by twisting
their neck under their foreleg?

Quote:
> The GL, IMO, is not the non-force method it claims to be.

EXACTLY, jenn. It was designed by an NADOI trainer and
a veterinary behaviorist. These guys DESIGNED the GL
with the INTENT of triggering and overriding positive
thigmotaxis. You think their DESCRIPTION of their product
and HOWE it works is HONEST FAIR and ACCURATE, jenn?

What's it called up in Canada when we got experts LYING
about their FRAUDULENT PRODUCTS they sell, jenn?

Quote:
> But I was talking about the Halti.

The Halti is significantly different, but the REASON the halti
has been designed as it is, is for 2 reasons. FIRST, the
halti guy needed to outstep the PATENT Dr. Alice DeGroote
obtained for her K-9 Kum-A-Long, and 2ndly, he wanted to
be able to apply MOORE FORCE to the dog than the original
K-9 Kum-A-Long would afford, because THAT is the NATURE
of this beast in the dog training industry.

Quote:
> In your report you said that the Halti was a knock-off of the
> K-9 Kumalong, and the design is exactly the same (I checked).

Not exactly or they'd have that little issue of the patent...

Quote:
> You praised the K9 Kumalong in your report, Jerry. You do
> state that they have deviated from the original intent, but if
> one sticks with the original intent, is it not a good thing?

Yes jenn. The Halti doesn't automatically trigger the opposition
reflex and intimidate the dog.

Quote:
> If they do deviate from the original intent as you
> state, then is that not handler abuse?

No, that'd be the instructions, which is HOWE COME they
beefed the halter up so it's able to withstand FORCE.

Quote:
> Isn't "not paying attention to a dog during training", mishandling?

The PROBLEM is the INTENT. As was clear with "broken rib,"
you'll see three incompetent traditionally trained handlers
trying to force control and inhibit their dogs lunging by ...

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Post by Pinku-Sense » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:47:53




Quote:
> HOWEDY cujo desockpuppet you pathetic miserable
> stinkin lyin animal abusin punk  thug coward active
> acute chronic life long incurable MENTAL CASE,

Hi, Issues!  

http://www.moonsgarden.com/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/issues.htm

"Issues has an issue and she won't rest until it becomes your issue,
too. Even when she's not talking about her issue it's clear she would
rather be talking about her issue. Something of a secular evangelist, he
religion, her raison d'etre, her abiding passion is....well, her issue.
Not exclusive to any ideological orientation, her issue could be the
environment, *** rights, raw foods, *** feeding, whatever. Her
obsession, however, provides the key to defeating her in battle; she
can't tolerate indifference, so if her thrusts are simply ignored she
will rage, accuse, condemn, plead and finally, go away. "

We (tinw) are always looking for full-on crusaders, as there are three

Quote:




>>> Long overdue, I nominate Jerry Howe (A.K.A.)
>>> "The Puppy Wizard" for Golden Killfile.

>>> (note the 2838 lines of quoted scr33d)

>>> <http://www.moonsgarden.com/;

>>> Any seconds?

>> Long overdue. Seconded.

>> I see Puppy***er already got the Unabomber.

> INDEEDY! AND the Full Canvass Jacket  AND the
> VICTOR VON FRANKENSTEIN "WEIRD SCIENCE"
>  AWARD for HIS Award Winning Posts!

When I ran the gRAMDies, I was seriously considering an award for
"Shameless Self-Promotion."  Unfortunately for the idea, I quit running
that awards program before I could implement the idea.  AUK doesn't seem
to have a comparable award, either, which is too bad, as you'd be a
shoe-in.  Perhaps I should start such an award and name it after you.

BTW, you forgot the Goofy Azzed Babboon.

Kookle Search Results

Jerry "Puppy Wizard" Howe

Victor von Frankenstein "Weird Science" Award, April 2005
Unabomber Surprise
Goofy Azzed Babboon

http://www.moonsgarden.com/

Quote:
> HOWEver, JUST DON'T QUOTE them or you'll be KILLFIELD
> by the MENTAL PATIENTS who HURT INTIMIDATE BRIBE
> ***SHOCK MUTILATE an *** innocent defenseless
> dumb critters an LIE abHOWET it.

Are we (tinw) hiding under your bed waiting for you to fall asleep so we
(tinw) can steal your kidneys, too?

<thousands of lines of Puppy Wizard screed snipped>
--
Pinku-Sensei
Co-FNVW of AUK
Acting Pollmaster of AFA-B
Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
http://www.moonsgarden.com/

 
 
 

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Post by Bigjo » Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:11:12




Quote:
> Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory wrote

> > HOWEDY People,

<<<<<<<<       cut

WHO in the world is m*ron enough
to quote all that b*llsh*t ??????

 
 
 

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Post by Bigjo » Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:11:58




Quote:


> > Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory wrote


<<<<<<<<<      cut

WHO in the world is m*ron enough
to quote all that b*llsh*t ??????

 
 
 

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Post by \ » Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:16:20


I've heard of many cases of love that were just infatuation, but this
hate I feel for myself is the real thing.
 
 
 

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Post by The Demon Prince of Absurdit » Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:15:04



Quote:
> On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 10:11:12 +0200, Bigjoe did most oddly state:
>> "Woodchuck Bill" a crit...

>>>> HOWEDY People,

>> <<<<<<<<       cut

>> WHO in the world is m*ron enough
>> to quote all that b*llsh*t ??????

> Are you going to cry?

Nah but you are Gayton McGaybashed.

here are yer words again:

"I love horse c0ck, ..." -- Gayton McFagg0t admits his love of horse
*** publicly for the first tim, in Message-Id:

"When a gerbil starts kicking around inside of me, I feel all good
inside." -- Gayton McFagg0t  gives one reason why he loves gerbil
stuffing in, "I love horse c0ck, ..." -- Gayton McFagg0t  admits his
love of horse *** publicly for the first tim, in Message-Id:

"I hate getting ***stitches. My daddy never lets me heal properly." --
Gayton McFagg0t  whines about the after effects of his daddy bunghole
rapings in , message-Id:

"I had my first mental breakdown when my mommy made me eat her out. It
was then that I know that I was gonna be a bottomboy." -- Gayton
McFagg0t  describes his path to ***ity in, Message-Id:

"My daddy gave me a pony for my 11th birthday. Little did he know the
pony was riding me too." -- Gayton McFagg0t  descrines his path to
*** in, Message-Id:

"My parents excepted the fact that I love horse ***ia. I haven't
told them about my cravings for gerbils yet. " -- Gayton McFagg0t  tries
to let his parents in on his tri***ity in. Message-Id: