OT Since We're Ranting (Tailgating Part Deux)

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OT Since We're Ranting (Tailgating Part Deux)

Post by shell » Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:01:21



i had some idjit tailgate me so closely this morning that i
couldn't see the car's headlights (can we say "death wish?").
i dunno what hisser motivation was, as i was already going 65
in a 55.  i tried the brake tap technique (unfortunately, it
was pitch black out, so i couldn't see hisser reaction).  it
worked well, though s/he crept back up a couple more times.
not a bad result (trained in only three repetitions!), so i
think i'll keep using this technique.

and speaking of idjit drivers, i had a near-miss yesterday.
i needed to turn off onto a side road that teed into the main
road.  i put my blinkers on and slowed down.  then, as i was
turning, i nearly hit the maroon who had been behind me, who
decided to turn onto the same side road without waiting for me
to turn first.  oye.  temporary insanity is my guess.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette

 
 
 

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Post by Tee » Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:12:24



Quote:

> i had some idjit tailgate me so closely this morning that i
> couldn't see the car's headlights (can we say "death wish?").
> i dunno what hisser motivation was, as i was already going 65
> in a 55.  i tried the brake tap technique (unfortunately, it
> was pitch black out, so i couldn't see hisser reaction).  it
> worked well, though s/he crept back up a couple more times.
> not a bad result (trained in only three repetitions!), so i
> think i'll keep using this technique.

> and speaking of idjit drivers, i had a near-miss yesterday.
> i needed to turn off onto a side road that teed into the main
> road.  i put my blinkers on and slowed down.  then, as i was
> turning, i nearly hit the maroon who had been behind me, who
> decided to turn onto the same side road without waiting for me
> to turn first.  oye.  temporary insanity is my guess.

Its that time of year.  Christmas may bring out the warmth in people but it
comes at the expense of working braincells.

--
Tara

 
 
 

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Post by Judy » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:12:51



Quote:

> i had some idjit tailgate me so closely this morning that i
> couldn't see the car's headlights (can we say "death wish?").
> i dunno what hisser motivation was, as i was already going 65
> in a 55.  i tried the brake tap technique

DH swears by slowing down.  The closer they tailgate, the slower he goes.
This gives three outcomes:  they pass you, they give up and slow down also,
or they rear-end you - but at a slower rate of speed.

 i nearly hit the maroon who had been behind me, who

Quote:
> decided to turn onto the same side road without waiting for me
> to turn first.  oye.  temporary insanity is my guess.

I used to wonder about the able-bodied people who park in handicapped
parking spaces.  I finally decided they were brain damaged.

(In the same vein, I also try to remember the  mother of a child in a
wheelchair who would drop her son off at an entrance and then go back and
park in her van with the handicapped plates.  If you saw her hop out and run
into the store, you'd be irritated unless you knew why.)

~~Judy

 
 
 

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Post by shell » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:23:56


Quote:

>DH swears by slowing down.  The closer they tailgate, the
>slower he goes. This gives three outcomes:  they pass you,

the problem is that there is no legal passing on this road.
there are a couple of places where it's possible to safely
pass, traffic permitting, but i think it's a bad idea to
encourage illegal passing in an area where it's generally
unsafe.  as it is, i see *way* too many people passing on
blind curves and close to the crests of hills.  i'd rather not
have a front row seat to the sort of carnage that could result
from that!

Quote:
>they give up and slow down also, or they rear-end you - but
>at a slower rate of speed.

that's what i thought until i tried tapping on my brakes.  i
was firmly in the slow down/speed/do whatever you have to do
get them off your ass camp.  brake tapping works, though!

Quote:
>(In the same vein, I also try to remember the mother of a
>child in a wheelchair who would drop her son off at an
>entrance and then go back and park in her van with the
>handicapped plates.  If you saw her hop out and run into the
>store, you'd be irritated unless you knew why.)

i never get irritated.  not all handicaps are visible.  as
long as the car has a handicapped plate/sticker, so it's not
illegally parked, i don't give it a second thought.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette

 
 
 

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Post by shell » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:29:50


Quote:

>Its that time of year.  Christmas may bring out the warmth in
>people but it comes at the expense of working braincells.

true.  i think this is garden variety stupidity though, not
holiday-induced madness.  this isn't the first time i've seen
someone do it.  usually it's because people are impatient that
the car in front had time to go, but was waiting for far-off
on-coming traffic.

on a similar note:  on the way a couple of days ago, i was
stopped at on a side road that intersects a busy highway,
waiting for my turn to cross.  when my turn came, i got 3/4 of
the way across the highway when a huge van stopped at the
opposite side.  in my lane.  with cars coming from both sides
on the highway.  that i was stopped on.  hrmph.  i made eye
contact with the van driver, who just stared at me.  DUH!!!
i had to pull around the van in the left-hand lane, which
could've resulted in me getting hit head-on if there had been
any more cars coming behind it.  what is wrong with these
people?!?

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette

 
 
 

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Post by Robin Nuttal » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:39:44


Quote:



>>i had some idjit tailgate me so closely this morning that i
>>couldn't see the car's headlights (can we say "death wish?").
>>i dunno what hisser motivation was, as i was already going 65
>>in a 55.  i tried the brake tap technique

> DH swears by slowing down.  The closer they tailgate, the slower he goes.
> This gives three outcomes:  they pass you, they give up and slow down also,
> or they rear-end you - but at a slower rate of speed.

We had a particularly annoying one this weekend while driving to a show.
It was something like 5:00 a.m., and I-70 was quite empty (for I-70
anyway). Yet this van would NOT leave us alone. I tried slowing down. He
slowed down. So I tried speeding up. HE sped up. I think perhaps it was
a drowsy driver and he/she was trying to use me to keep awake, but it
was just annoying as hell--all this empty highway and this one vehicle
right on my butt, and since it was an econovan the headlights were right
where they glared directly into my side mirror. We finally got OFF THE
HIGHWAY and ate breakfast, losing him.
 
 
 

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Post by Chad » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:43:49


My younger brother taught me an excellent technique that I have tried a
dozen times -- and it has not failed to work for me yet.  This came about
for him because he had to drive his car around for awhile with no break
lights.  What you do is roll down your window, extend your left hand, and
signal for the driver behind you to back off.  No, I'm not talking about the
middle finger; I'm talking about a kind of quick hand wave motion -- think
of it like patting the head of a big dog that is running very quickly along
side of your car.   2 or 3 pats is generally enough.  If you've ever
tailgated someone, then you know it's not the easiest thing in the world to
do -- you have to be very aware of slightest movements of the driver in
front of you.  If that driver were to stick his hand out the window and
motion for you to back off (as if she didn't have any breaklights), you'd
most probably notice it.  And you are very likely to comply because you have
zero idea what the person in front of you is about to do.   Better safe than
ending up court.

give it a try.

Chad


Quote:

> i had some idjit tailgate me so closely this morning that i
> couldn't see the car's headlights (can we say "death wish?").
> i dunno what hisser motivation was, as i was already going 65
> in a 55.  i tried the brake tap technique (unfortunately, it
> was pitch black out, so i couldn't see hisser reaction).  it
> worked well, though s/he crept back up a couple more times.
> not a bad result (trained in only three repetitions!), so i
> think i'll keep using this technique.

> and speaking of idjit drivers, i had a near-miss yesterday.
> i needed to turn off onto a side road that teed into the main
> road.  i put my blinkers on and slowed down.  then, as i was
> turning, i nearly hit the maroon who had been behind me, who
> decided to turn onto the same side road without waiting for me
> to turn first.  oye.  temporary insanity is my guess.

> --
> shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
> http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette

 
 
 

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Post by Melinda Sho » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:53:40




Quote:
>Yet this van would NOT leave us alone. I tried slowing down. He
>slowed down. So I tried speeding up. HE sped up.

I had one of those last month.  We have two-lane highways
around here.  To make the story short, we both ended up with
speeding tickets and the deputy asked me if I knew the other
driver (I didn't).
--

            Bad taste is better than no taste -- Arnold Bennett

 
 
 

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Post by shell » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:59:37


Quote:

>front of you.  If that driver were to stick his hand out the
>window and motion for you to back off (as if she didn't have
>any breaklights), you'd most probably notice it.  And you are
>very likely to comply because you have zero idea what the
>person in front of you is about to do.  Better safe than
>ending up court.

if you can see what the driver in front is doing.  since this
generally happens at 5am on a rural, unlighted highway[1], it's
pitch black out impossible to see other drivers' hand
gestures.  besides, i think it's more dangerous to be
monkeying around with my windows when i'm trying to drive on a
twisty road, than to simply tap on my brakes.

[1] funnily enough, i almost never have a problem with people
tailgating on the way home, when i take the back road.  it
only seems to happen on the highway.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette

 
 
 

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Post by FurPa » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:10:07


Quote:



>>i had some idjit tailgate me so closely this morning that i
>>couldn't see the car's headlights (can we say "death wish?").
>>i dunno what hisser motivation was, as i was already going 65
>>in a 55.  i tried the brake tap technique

> DH swears by slowing down.  The closer they tailgate, the slower he goes.
> This gives three outcomes:  they pass you, they give up and slow down also,
> or they rear-end you - but at a slower rate of speed.

This often works, but it also can provoke a case of road rage.  I had one
guy follow me on my bumper for several miles on a freeway, after I tried
tapping the brakes, and then slowing down.  He had plenty of opportunity to
pass, but he stuck right with me.  And I was afraid to exit, not knowing
what the loony-toons would do.  (He finally took an exit.)

Anymore, if someone is following too closely I don't try to train them
anymore; I just do whatever I can to get out of their way, even if it means
pulling over on a two-lane highway.

FurPaw

--
Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever.

To reply, unleash the dog.

 
 
 

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Post by Gwen Watso » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:10:38


Quote:



> >Yet this van would NOT leave us alone. I tried slowing down. He
> >slowed down. So I tried speeding up. HE sped up.

> I had one of those last month.  We have two-lane highways
> around here.  To make the story short, we both ended up with
> speeding tickets and the deputy asked me if I knew the other
> driver (I didn't).
> --

>             Bad taste is better than no taste -- Arnold Bennett

I would have pulled off the road in the above situation. I really do not
like being messed with when driving. I get way too nervous. For me
it is best to pull over take a breather and let the weirdo driver go
on down the road.

Gwen

 
 
 

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Post by Gwen Watso » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:26:37


Quote:

> This often works, but it also can provoke a case of road rage.  FurPaw

> --
> Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever.

> To reply, unleash the dog.

Indeed and in Texas there has been road rage that actually escalates
to shootings. Something I personally am not willing to risk. I find

way. And then I can proceed myself. Now when on major
Freeway no way to do that other than change lanes a try
to get out of their way.

Gwen

 
 
 

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Post by Chad » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:46:29



Quote:

> >front of you.  If that driver were to stick his hand out the
> >window and motion for you to back off (as if she didn't have
> >any breaklights), you'd most probably notice it.  And you are
> >very likely to comply because you have zero idea what the
> >person in front of you is about to do.  Better safe than
> >ending up court.

> if you can see what the driver in front is doing.

yes, hopefully, you'll have your headlights on when tailgaiting somebody.

  since this

Quote:
> generally happens at 5am on a rural, unlighted highway[1], it's
> pitch black out impossible to see other drivers' hand
> gestures.  besides, i think it's more dangerous to be
> monkeying around with my windows when i'm trying to drive on a
> twisty road, than to simply tap on my brakes.

> [1] funnily enough, i almost never have a problem with people
> tailgating on the way home, when i take the back road.  it
> only seems to happen on the highway.

> --
> shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
> http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette

 
 
 

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Post by Chad » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:54:14


Oh, I also forgot to mention, that I signal a thank you by hand gesture (a
snap wrist wave of the hand like pedestrians do when a car stops to let them
cross the street) AFTER the person behind me backs off when I've signalled
for them to back off.  Sometimes people get so wrapped up in their own
little world that they are hardly aware of how inappropriate and childish
they are behaving.
A little pro-active politeness can go a long way on a re-active road of
rage.


Quote:
> My younger brother taught me an excellent technique that I have tried a
> dozen times -- and it has not failed to work for me yet.  This came about
> for him because he had to drive his car around for awhile with no break
> lights.  What you do is roll down your window, extend your left hand, and
> signal for the driver behind you to back off.  No, I'm not talking about
the
> middle finger; I'm talking about a kind of quick hand wave motion -- think
> of it like patting the head of a big dog that is running very quickly
along
> side of your car.   2 or 3 pats is generally enough.  If you've ever
> tailgated someone, then you know it's not the easiest thing in the world
to
> do -- you have to be very aware of slightest movements of the driver in
> front of you.  If that driver were to stick his hand out the window and
> motion for you to back off (as if she didn't have any breaklights), you'd
> most probably notice it.  And you are very likely to comply because you
have
> zero idea what the person in front of you is about to do.   Better safe
than
> ending up court.

> give it a try.

> Chad



> > i had some idjit tailgate me so closely this morning that i
> > couldn't see the car's headlights (can we say "death wish?").
> > i dunno what hisser motivation was, as i was already going 65
> > in a 55.  i tried the brake tap technique (unfortunately, it
> > was pitch black out, so i couldn't see hisser reaction).  it
> > worked well, though s/he crept back up a couple more times.
> > not a bad result (trained in only three repetitions!), so i
> > think i'll keep using this technique.

> > and speaking of idjit drivers, i had a near-miss yesterday.
> > i needed to turn off onto a side road that teed into the main
> > road.  i put my blinkers on and slowed down.  then, as i was
> > turning, i nearly hit the maroon who had been behind me, who
> > decided to turn onto the same side road without waiting for me
> > to turn first.  oye.  temporary insanity is my guess.

> > --
> > shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
> > http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette

 
 
 

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Post by shell » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:54:16


Quote:

>yes, hopefully, you'll have your headlights on when
>tailgaiting somebody.

rural roads are a black hole.  i have a very hard time even
seeing the side of the car in front of me, muchless trying to
sort out hand signals.  besides, i like to keep both hands on
the wheel where they belong.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette