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Wit's End Training manual - It's Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual

Post by The Puppy Wizar » Wed, 09 Oct 2002 06:52:40



HOWEDY shelly,


Quote:


> Jerry purchased the manual and the website from a
> get-rich-quick company (you can Google for it),

That's a lie shelly, fabricated by our own ed w of
http://www.moonsgarden.com/

Quote:
> so i would not consider either of them to be evidence
> that he gives a damn about dogs.

Except that it's no evidence of nuthin but you being a liar.

Quote:
> he *has* stated publicly that he does not like dogs

Perhaps that's cause I don't HANG them to save their lives?

Quote:
> and has been known to give out harmful and potentially
> fatal "training" advice.

Yeah. I'm KILLIN you lying dog abusing Thugs...

Quote:
> shelly and elliott & harriet
> http://www.moonsgarden.com/~scouvrette



Quote:
> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here
> with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one
> who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I
> was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have
> any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using
> it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I
> started using the e-fence...well, then my concern became how to keep
> them from running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock
> debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g> A Wits
> End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up
> stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time. IOW a great
> companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!

=====================


Quote:
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.  Two dogs,
> two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back
> in the yard and would run for days.  The last time, Peach didn't
> come back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog.
> She is now border trained.  A few minutes each day reinforces
> her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the
> road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes
> when we walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence
> and its collars.  If you can't get a regular fence then you need to
> train your dog.  I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my
> dog in our yard again.  The price was too high:-(
> ~misty

--------------------------------

     Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner
     Brevard Co FL, writes:

Hi Jerry,

I received email from Mark Shaw on 10/6 which I just read today.
Sorry I didn't have time to get to it sooner. We have had a lot
going on in our area concerning animals. We formed a new Task
Force to address spay/neuter, pet overpopulation and animal
abuse. I needed to do a lot of research before the first meeting and
time was just not available for anything else.

Anyway the letter went on to say that we are in collusion, I tried
to defraud him, and have sent none of the materials that he has
asked for although he has yet to furnish the P.O. Box number that
he wanted them sent to in the first place. He goes on to state that
I am no longer eligible for the "fictions reward." All of this is in
answer to postings that prove I was "sharing" his email with you
which in his opinion was a breach of good manners. His email only
had terms and conditions of the reward which I would consider
"public information."

Be that as it may, I would like to state that you had my permission
to post any email I have sent you regarding DDR including this
email.

I'm very sorry that you have to put up with this type of situation
from someone that obviously never intended to make good on his
reward offer in the first place.

I had a call from a friend of mine with a very aggressive cat. I
have loaned her my DDR for a few weeks to see if it will calm JR
down. I will let you know the results. She goes to the same holistic
vet that I go to and he is also interested.

In case Mark does post to the list again I would like to say that I
do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it has helped
my dogs and cats. I have entirely too much to do, to worry about his
opinions or reward.

The only reason I was willing to apply for the reward was on your
behalf as I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with
aggression and other behavior problems.

I am in Feral Cat Network (we spay and neuter approximately 100
feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog
obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of
Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of
Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from
AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.).
http://www.moonsgarden.com/

I listed these not to be on an ego trip but to let Mark know that I
am involved with animals and have very little time to play games
with him also I would not recommend your product if I did not
believe in it.

Please feel free to post this email as it has no copyright on it as
did Mark Shaw's last email to me.

Take care Jerry and don't let the Mark's of the world get you down.

Elaine

Thank you, Elaine. I have been trying to educate the mark's of this
world, with some occasional successes. I guess that's variable
reinforcement?

Yours, Jerry.

=======================

Hi Jerry,

I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit.  I have since
borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung.  She speaks very
highly of it.

So, I brought it home and plugged it in.  Of course, I
wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have every
one immediately fall to the floor in little comas for a few
hours.  Well, after I got all 27 of them to be quiet, still no
comas.  But, it had only been 36 seconds at that point.  So,
I gave it a little longer.  Still no comas.  Was this really
going to work?  I mean, I do have an unusual situation.

So, by bedtime, a few hours later.  I started to notice just
how many were asleep already - with their feet in the air!  I
started to have hope. During the night, all was calm.  In the
morning when I got up, only a few of them WALKED quietly
to the door to go out.  Not the usual evacuation.

I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
Morning.  I was certainly pleased with the night effect.  I
wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
Until I took it back.  Within half an hour, the monsters had
resurfaced.  I wondered if I could break into Elaine's house
and if she would notice :)

I know another person who does dog rescue.  She rescues
Beagles.  She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house.  God
bless her.  She is interested to see if it will work for her.  I
also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue, and
she is interested.  The cat rescue people have monthly
meetings.  Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.

So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
about the best way to use it in my case, I would appreciate
it.  I of course wanted to keep it on the highest setting, but
don't know if that is advised, even with my situation of so
many new ones coming and (too few) going.

Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc.  I
think the vets should have the info in their offices.  It must
help dogs with separation anxiety.  My vet practices
homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I
would think it would be right up her alley.

Thank you.
Desiree M Webber
A New Leash On Life

===============

Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue writes: Sep 9,
 2000

"I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful and
the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right does
indeed exist.

I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
but our cats and even us.

She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.

It is not just my opinion that all this aggression existed
before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by three vets
to euthanize her.

I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
has helped my dogs and cats.  I do think your product is a
valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior
problems.

I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter approximately
100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC
dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club,
president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for
Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county
commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat
club, assistant County manager, head of animal control,
director of two different shelters, etc.).

Thanks, Elaine,

====================


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> Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG.  I have a very
> loud***atoo who has been having problems adjusting to my 8
> month old son.
> Joey is learning to walk.  He likes to use Buddy's cage as a hold on
> for dear life object.
> Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older two boys
> went through this stage in a different house where Buddy had his
> own room and the boys had only visits, not daily contact 24/7.
> Buddy has

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Wit's End Training manual - It's Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual

Post by The Puppy Wizar » Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:26:36


Quote:
----- Original Message -----




Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:56 PM

Subject: Re: Wit's End Training manual - It's Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual

Liar. It IS a get-rich-quick scam. Just because he dropped
you doesn't change that fact. Traitor.

ed w.


> > HOWEDY shelly,





> > > Jerry purchased the manual and the website from a
> > > get-rich-quick company (you can Google for it),

> > That's a lie shelly, fabricated by our own ed w of
> > http://www.petloss.com

> > > so i would not consider either of them to be evidence
> > > that he gives a damn about dogs.

> > Except that it's no evidence of nuthin but you being a liar.

> > > he *has* stated publicly that he does not like dogs

> > Perhaps that's cause I don't HANG them to save their lives?

> > > and has been known to give out harmful and potentially
> > > fatal "training" advice.

> > Yeah. I'm KILLIN you lying dog abusing Thugs...

> > > shelly and elliott & harriet
> > > http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette



> > > I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here
> > > with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one
> > > who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I
> > > was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could
have
> > > any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started
using
> > > it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I
> > > started using the e-fence...well, then my concern became how to keep
> > > them from running off for days on end.

> > > I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock
> > > debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

> > > I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g> A Wits
> > > End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up
> > > stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time. IOW a great
> > > companion and friend.

> > > Thanks Jerry!

> > =====================



> > > We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.  Two dogs,
> > > two collars We now have one dog and no collars.

> > > Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back
> > > in the yard and would run for days.  The last time, Peach didn't
> > > come back home.

> > > I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog.
> > > She is now border trained.  A few minutes each day reinforces
> > > her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the
> > > road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes
> > > when we walk around the yard.

> > > I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence
> > > and its collars.  If you can't get a regular fence then you need to
> > > train your dog.  I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my
> > > dog in our yard again.  The price was too high:-(

> > > ~misty

> > --------------------------------

> >      Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner
> >      Brevard Co FL, writes:

> > Hi Jerry,

> > I received email from Mark Shaw on 10/6 which I just read today.
> > Sorry I didn't have time to get to it sooner. We have had a lot
> > going on in our area concerning animals. We formed a new Task
> > Force to address spay/neuter, pet overpopulation and animal
> > abuse. I needed to do a lot of research before the first meeting and
> > time was just not available for anything else.

> > Anyway the letter went on to say that we are in collusion, I tried
> > to defraud him, and have sent none of the materials that he has
> > asked for although he has yet to furnish the P.O. Box number that
> > he wanted them sent to in the first place. He goes on to state that
> > I am no longer eligible for the "fictions reward." All of this is in
> > answer to postings that prove I was "sharing" his email with you
> > which in his opinion was a breach of good manners. His email only
> > had terms and conditions of the reward which I would consider
> > "public information."

> > Be that as it may, I would like to state that you had my permission
> > to post any email I have sent you regarding DDR including this
> > email.

> > I'm very sorry that you have to put up with this type of situation
> > from someone that obviously never intended to make good on his
> > reward offer in the first place.

> > I had a call from a friend of mine with a very aggressive cat. I
> > have loaned her my DDR for a few weeks to see if it will calm JR
> > down. I will let you know the results. She goes to the same holistic
> > vet that I go to and he is also interested.

> > In case Mark does post to the list again I would like to say that I
> > do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it has helped
> > my dogs and cats. I have entirely too much to do, to worry about his
> > opinions or reward.

> > The only reason I was willing to apply for the reward was on your
> > behalf as I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with
> > aggression and other behavior problems.

> > I am in Feral Cat Network (we spay and neuter approximately 100
> > feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog
> > obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of
> > Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of
> > Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from
> > AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
> > animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.).
> > http://www.spacecoastfelinenetwork.com

> > I listed these not to be on an ego trip but to let Mark know that I
> > am involved with animals and have very little time to play games
> > with him also I would not recommend your product if I did not
> > believe in it.

> > Please feel free to post this email as it has no copyright on it as
> > did Mark Shaw's last email to me.

> > Take care Jerry and don't let the Mark's of the world get you down.

> > Elaine

> > Thank you, Elaine. I have been trying to educate the mark's of this
> > world, with some occasional successes. I guess that's variable
> > reinforcement?

> > Yours, Jerry.

> > =======================

> > Hi Jerry,

> > I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit.  I have since
> > borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung.  She speaks very
> > highly of it.

> > So, I brought it home and plugged it in.  Of course, I
> > wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have every
> > one immediately fall to the floor in little comas for a few
> > hours.  Well, after I got all 27 of them to be quiet, still no
> > comas.  But, it had only been 36 seconds at that point.  So,
> > I gave it a little longer.  Still no comas.  Was this really
> > going to work?  I mean, I do have an unusual situation.

> > So, by bedtime, a few hours later.  I started to notice just
> > how many were asleep already - with their feet in the air!  I
> > started to have hope. During the night, all was calm.  In the
> > morning when I got up, only a few of them WALKED quietly
> > to the door to go out.  Not the usual evacuation.

> > I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
> > Morning.  I was certainly pleased with the night effect.  I
> > wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
> > Until I took it back.  Within half an hour, the monsters had
> > resurfaced.  I wondered if I could break into Elaine's house
> > and if she would notice :)

> > I know another person who does dog rescue.  She rescues
> > Beagles.  She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house.  God
> > bless her.  She is interested to see if it will work for her.  I
> > also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue, and
> > she is interested.  The cat rescue people have monthly
> > meetings.  Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.

> > So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
> > about the best way to use it in my case, I would appreciate
> > it.  I of course wanted to keep it on the highest setting, but
> > don't know if that is advised, even with my situation of so
> > many new ones coming and (too few) going.

> > Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc.  I
> > think the vets should have the info in their offices.  It must
> > help dogs with separation anxiety.  My vet practices
> > homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I
> > would think it would be right up her alley.

> > Thank you.
> > Desiree M Webber
> > A New Leash On Life

> > ===============

> > Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue writes: Sep 9,
> >  2000

> > "I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful and
> > the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right does
> > indeed exist.

> > I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
> > aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
> > but our cats and even us.

> > She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
> > to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
> > aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
> > towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.

> > It is not just my opinion that all this aggression existed
> > before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by three vets
> > to euthanize her.

> > I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
> > has helped my dogs and cats.

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