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Please please please can someone help me

Post by sheil » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:02:28



I recently got a german shepherd from a rescue in surry, i am in
scotland, he is 20 months old and he is as strong as an ox, in the
house he is perfect, you couldnt ask for a more loving animal, but when
someone come in like a friend he tries to attack them, and i dont mean
just growling, he will lunge for them, ive had to muzzel him when
anyone comes to the door, he is great with my son and partner though
and doesnt even flinch when my son comes barging in the front door.
When we take him out its horrific, he pulls so much and he is so strong
that we are conatantly stopping and tring to make him sit down, anyone
passes and he is trying to attack them again.
He had me on my arse sitting in the mud this morning trying to hold on
to him and control him, a man and his dog walked past and i was holding
on to his coller, i was so afraid that i wouldnt be able to hold on to
him.
He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
me?
Sheila
 
 
 

Please please please can someone help me

Post by sheil » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:02:28


I recently got a german shepherd from a rescue in surry, i am in
scotland, he is 20 months old and he is as strong as an ox, in the
house he is perfect, you couldnt ask for a more loving animal, but when
someone come in like a friend he tries to attack them, and i dont mean
just growling, he will lunge for them, ive had to muzzel him when
anyone comes to the door, he is great with my son and partner though
and doesnt even flinch when my son comes barging in the front door.
When we take him out its horrific, he pulls so much and he is so strong
that we are conatantly stopping and tring to make him sit down, anyone
passes and he is trying to attack them again.
He had me on my arse sitting in the mud this morning trying to hold on
to him and control him, a man and his dog walked past and i was holding
on to his coller, i was so afraid that i wouldnt be able to hold on to
him.
He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
me?
Sheila
 
 
 

Please please please can someone help me

Post by didd » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:22:13




Quote:
> He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
> have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
> hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
> me?
> Sheila

You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.
not only will this get his socialization started, it will put you in
contact with people who can show you how to handle him, and teach him how
to handle himself.
 
 
 

Please please please can someone help me

Post by Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat.. » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:43:10


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Quote:

> I recently got a german shepherd from a rescue in surry, i am in
> scotland, he is 20 months old and he is as strong as an ox, in the
> house he is perfect, you couldnt ask for a more loving animal, but when
> someone come in like a friend he tries to attack them, and i dont mean
> just growling, he will lunge for them, ive had to muzzel him when
> anyone comes to the door,

You CANNOT FORCE your dog to do ANYTHING. You'll have to learn
HOWE to PRAISE HIM to make him FRIENDLY to strangers he feels he
needs to PROTECT YOU from <{}: ~ ) >

Quote:
> he is great with my son and partner though and doesnt even
> flinch when  my son comes barging in the front door.

Of curse not. He sounds like a WONderful dog. I'd like
to have a THOWESAND just like him <{}: ~ ) >

Quote:
> When we take him out its horrific, he pulls so much and he is so
> strong that we are conatantly stopping and tring to make him sit down,

That'll NEVER work. You've got to learn to handle him GENTLY
so's he is ABLE to calm himself and not fear strangers <{}: ~ )  >

Quote:
> anyone passes and he is trying to attack them again.

GOOD. He's DOIN HIS JOB.  Just PRAISE HIM and he'll RELAXXX <{}: ~ ) >

Quote:
> He had me on my arse sitting in the mud this morning trying to hold on
> to him and control him, a man and his dog walked past and i was holding
> on to his coller, i was so afraid that i wouldnt be able to hold on to him.

When you try to force CON-TROLL you trigger positive thigmotaxis, the
OPPOSITION REFLEX which locks his thinkin on his FEARS. You've got
to learn to handle your leash and your stance pupperly so you're not
PULLIN
on him and then he'll be ABLE to listen to you when you tell him it's
O.K.

Quote:
> He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on,

He's NORMAL. You're just NOT LISTENING TO HIM. Listen to him,
tell him he's GOOD and tell him you're NOT AFRAID and he'll FOLLOW
YOUR EXXXAMPLE <{} : ~ )  >

Quote:
>  i have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he
>  will end up hurting someone and i now dread taking him out,

It'll take you WON DAY to learn HOWE to pupperly handle
and CON-TROLL him usin PRAISE and NON PHYSICAL
Pavlovian and Ericksonian COUNTER CONDITIONING <{} : ~ ( >

Quote:
>  please can anyone help me?

ABSOLUTELY NOT! You're askin LIARS DOG ABUSERS
COWARDS and ACTIVE ACUTE CHRONIC LONG TERM
INCURABLE MENTAL CASES for advice THEY AIN'T GOT.

All these maggots understand is jerkin chokin shockin surgical
*** mutilatin an ***in inocent defenseless dumb critters
to compensate for their fragile defective egos, weak fearful minds
and colossal inferiority complexes <{} : ~ (  >

Quote:
> Sheila


No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull.  She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.

Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..

she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.

Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing.  I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.

I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.

I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..

we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.

She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty.  So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.

One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.

two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.

And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..

actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.

She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people.  she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.

She also does her commands on cue..  and doesn't look for a treat.

            ---------------



        I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
        dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
        I do not know what started the problem but he came
        aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
        snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
        and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
        ad I took him with me everywhere.

        At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
        Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
        clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
        it was not working on his aggression problem.

        I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
        trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
        They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
        and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
        suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
        working as he was becoming more aggressive.

        I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
        away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
        on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
        use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

        I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
        ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
        LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
        University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
        had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
        gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
        have the people stop until he could get in control using
        treats, and work on clicker training.

        At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
        the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
        would not come when I called him and would run away when
        I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
        neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
        hasn't trained her dog"

        I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
        were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
        were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
        said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
        say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
        responsible for him."

        *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
        DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

        As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
        going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
        Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
        Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
        He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
        not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

        The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
        I had been working for 18 months!

        Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
        from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
        I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
        blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
        can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

        I used it three
...

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Post by Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat.. » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:17:24


HOWEDY diddler you pathteic miserable stinkin lyin
animal ***in active acute chronic long term incurable
punk thug coward mental case and dog trainin FRAUD
and SCAM ARTIST,

Quote:



> > He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
> > have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
> > hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
> > me?
> > Sheila
> You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.

That so, diddler?

You think jerkin, chokin dogs on pronged spiked pinch ***
collars an shockin them is gonna make the dog FEEL SAFE?

You think Sheila got a ATV she can drag her dog behind for
fif*** miles a day to tire him out so she can start jerkin an
chokin IT around people like HOWE you was gonna do to
paulie's dog Muttley who WENT INSANE in janet boss's
OBEDIENCE CLASS on accHOWENTA that MENTAL
CASE wouldn't stop JERKIN an CHOKIN him on her
CUSTOM MADE PRONGED SPIKED PINCH ***
COLLAR?

Quote:
> not only will this get his socialization started,

There AIN'T no "OBEDIENCE SCHOOL" that'll take in an
aggressive dog. She'll have to go to PRIVATE TRAININ
like HOWE you done for timmy aka buzzsaw. You jerked
and choked an shocked Max till he turned blue and STILL
you couldn't DETER him from chasin squirrels. Imagine if
Max was human aggressive, he'd of ***ed you as you
deserve, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
mental case.

Quote:
> it will put you in contact with people who can show you
> how to handle him, and teach him how to handle himself.

Yeah, that's right, diddler. When you finally GAVE UP on
tryin to jerk ***an shock timmy's dog you offered your
MENTAL CASE PAL to come bye for regular jerkin an chokin
an shockin lessons on accHOWENTA "she needs to get out
of the house because she's been takin care of her mentally
ill family member". REMEMBER diddler? I wish I could find
that post, you probably set it to EXXXPIRE in six days as
you have a habit of doin with your IMPORTANT posts <{): ~ ( >

Here's a LITTLE BIT of your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
you pathetic stinkin lyin animal ***in mental case.

Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's dog to stay HOWETA
her garbage can::

"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road
Cheered," diddler.


Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.

If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.

Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.

If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

-----------------------------------

Here's diddler teachin her retarded kid's schoolmates
HOWE to be RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS:

"You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.

I think that should be expected of any breed,
and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat":

From: diddy

Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

           -----------------------

Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not
to bark whine an cry all night:


 Subject: Oh My God
 Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

 Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
 I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
 fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
 listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
 the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

 After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
 securely in a horse stall for the night.

 She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
 day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
 out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
 DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
 to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
 spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
 going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

 At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
 allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
 So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
 decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
 and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
 was not going to be tolerated.

 This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
 (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
 (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
 sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
 anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
 from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
 confinement.)

 I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
 I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
 playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of *** on
 the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
 take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

 That *** didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
 Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
 I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
 behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
 and corresponding coyote breeding season.

 Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
 She had *** (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

 I had her at the vets office this morning before he
 opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
 up with huge air pockets.

 Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
 said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
 that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
 because she was chewing it. That would explain
 EVERYTHING.

 The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
 cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
 it works its way through.

 Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
 require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
 afford. I will manage.

 Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
 for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
 treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
 clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
 --
 diddy

              ----------------

Here's diddler's SUCCESS with puppys:

"Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
before I could get him.

a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.

I think he's never going to  be allowed out ever
again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.

Re: Tuck's SAR experience


 I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
 had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
 now two keys missing.

 Ornery git

                -------------


Tuck was 5 months old before he held it all night long,
At 8 months he still gets me up at 5am.

But if she's getting less frequent, puppy vaginitis,
especially in little girly puppies is so common, it's
pretty much expected in some breeds might be suspected..

It's excruciatingly painful and can lead to renal
disease or many other issues if untreated.

I'd make an appointment with your vet for a ...

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Post by sheil » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:40:25




Quote:
> HOWEDY diddler you pathteic miserable stinkin lyin
> animal ***in active acute chronic long term incurable
> punk thug coward mental case and dog trainin FRAUD
> and SCAM ARTIST,




> > > He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
> > > have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
> > > hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
> > > me?
> > > Sheila

> > You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.

> That so, diddler?

> You think jerkin, chokin dogs on pronged spiked pinch ***
> collars an shockin them is gonna make the dog FEEL SAFE?

> You think Sheila got a ATV she can drag her dog behind for
> fif*** miles a day to tire him out so she can start jerkin an
> chokin IT around people like HOWE you was gonna do to
> paulie's dog Muttley who WENT INSANE in janet boss's
> OBEDIENCE CLASS on accHOWENTA that MENTAL
> CASE wouldn't stop JERKIN an CHOKIN him on her
> CUSTOM MADE PRONGED SPIKED PINCH ***
> COLLAR?

> > not only will this get his socialization started,

> There AIN'T no "OBEDIENCE SCHOOL" that'll take in an
> aggressive dog. She'll have to go to PRIVATE TRAININ
> like HOWE you done for timmy aka buzzsaw. You jerked
> and choked an shocked Max till he turned blue and STILL
> you couldn't DETER him from chasin squirrels. Imagine if
> Max was human aggressive, he'd of ***ed you as you
> deserve, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
> mental case.

> > it will put you in contact with people who can show you
> > how to handle him, and teach him how to handle himself.

> Yeah, that's right, diddler. When you finally GAVE UP on
> tryin to jerk ***an shock timmy's dog you offered your
> MENTAL CASE PAL to come bye for regular jerkin an chokin
> an shockin lessons on accHOWENTA "she needs to get out
> of the house because she's been takin care of her mentally
> ill family member". REMEMBER diddler? I wish I could find
> that post, you probably set it to EXXXPIRE in six days as
> you have a habit of doin with your IMPORTANT posts <{): ~ ( >

> Here's a LITTLE BIT of your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
> you pathetic stinkin lyin animal ***in mental case.

> Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's dog to stay HOWETA
> her garbage can::

> "My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
> Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
> Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road
> Cheered," diddler.


> Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
> Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

> I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
> I would react. There would be none left standing
> to deal with the threat just in case.

> If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
> continents stop me from pursuing justice.

> Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
> someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
> dog might not mean THAT much to him.

> If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
> dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
> certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

> (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
> was it doing in his yard?)

> I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
> horses and called him to help me find it. I would
> do the same for threatening my dog.

> My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> trash up and down our road for years making an
> unbelievable mess.

> When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
> cheered. Animal control had never been able in
> years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
> was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
> and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
> but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
> NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

> -----------------------------------

> Here's diddler teachin her retarded kid's schoolmates
> HOWE to be RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS:

> "You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
> taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
> in full chase and ask them to drop anything
> they are doing, and they will.

> I think that should be expected of any breed,
> and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
> atre missing the boat":

> From: diddy

> Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
> Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

> Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
> couple days for school education on pet care and safe
> handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

> I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
> and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
> and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
> crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
> crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
> and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
> parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

> I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
> displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
> al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
> could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
> three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
> something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
> them and they got banished.

> To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
> look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
> himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

> I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
> But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
> been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
> time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

>            -----------------------

> Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not
> to bark whine an cry all night:


>  Subject: Oh My God
>  Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

>  Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
>  I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
>  fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
>  listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
>  the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

>  After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
>  securely in a horse stall for the night.

>  She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
>  day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
>  out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
>  DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
>  to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
>  spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
>  going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

>  At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
>  allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
>  So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
>  decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
>  and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
>  was not going to be tolerated.

>  This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
>  (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
>  (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
>  sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
>  anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
>  from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
>  confinement.)

>  I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
>  I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
>  playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of *** on
>  the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
>  take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

>  That *** didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
>  Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
>  I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
>  behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
>  and corresponding coyote breeding season.

>  Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
>  She had *** (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

>  I had her at the vets office this morning before he
>  opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
>  up with huge air pockets.

>  Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
>  said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
>  that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
>  because she was chewing it. That would explain
>  EVERYTHING.

>  The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
>  cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
>  it works its way through.

>  Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
>  require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
>  afford. I will manage.

>  Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
>  for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
>  treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
>  clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
>  --
>  diddy

>               ----------------

> Here's diddler's SUCCESS with puppys:

> "Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
> Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
> before I could get him.

> a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
> chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.

> I think he's never going to  be allowed out ever
> again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.

> Re: Tuck's SAR experience



>  I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
>  had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
>  now two keys missing.

...

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Please please please can someone help me

Post by sheil » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:40:32




Quote:
> HOWEDY diddler you pathteic miserable stinkin lyin
> animal ***in active acute chronic long term incurable
> punk thug coward mental case and dog trainin FRAUD
> and SCAM ARTIST,




> > > He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
> > > have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
> > > hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
> > > me?
> > > Sheila

> > You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.

> That so, diddler?

> You think jerkin, chokin dogs on pronged spiked pinch ***
> collars an shockin them is gonna make the dog FEEL SAFE?

> You think Sheila got a ATV she can drag her dog behind for
> fif*** miles a day to tire him out so she can start jerkin an
> chokin IT around people like HOWE you was gonna do to
> paulie's dog Muttley who WENT INSANE in janet boss's
> OBEDIENCE CLASS on accHOWENTA that MENTAL
> CASE wouldn't stop JERKIN an CHOKIN him on her
> CUSTOM MADE PRONGED SPIKED PINCH ***
> COLLAR?

> > not only will this get his socialization started,

> There AIN'T no "OBEDIENCE SCHOOL" that'll take in an
> aggressive dog. She'll have to go to PRIVATE TRAININ
> like HOWE you done for timmy aka buzzsaw. You jerked
> and choked an shocked Max till he turned blue and STILL
> you couldn't DETER him from chasin squirrels. Imagine if
> Max was human aggressive, he'd of ***ed you as you
> deserve, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
> mental case.

> > it will put you in contact with people who can show you
> > how to handle him, and teach him how to handle himself.

> Yeah, that's right, diddler. When you finally GAVE UP on
> tryin to jerk ***an shock timmy's dog you offered your
> MENTAL CASE PAL to come bye for regular jerkin an chokin
> an shockin lessons on accHOWENTA "she needs to get out
> of the house because she's been takin care of her mentally
> ill family member". REMEMBER diddler? I wish I could find
> that post, you probably set it to EXXXPIRE in six days as
> you have a habit of doin with your IMPORTANT posts <{): ~ ( >

> Here's a LITTLE BIT of your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
> you pathetic stinkin lyin animal ***in mental case.

> Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's dog to stay HOWETA
> her garbage can::

> "My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
> Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
> Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road
> Cheered," diddler.


> Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
> Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

> I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
> I would react. There would be none left standing
> to deal with the threat just in case.

> If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
> continents stop me from pursuing justice.

> Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
> someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
> dog might not mean THAT much to him.

> If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
> dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
> certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

> (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
> was it doing in his yard?)

> I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
> horses and called him to help me find it. I would
> do the same for threatening my dog.

> My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> trash up and down our road for years making an
> unbelievable mess.

> When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
> cheered. Animal control had never been able in
> years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
> was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
> and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
> but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
> NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

> -----------------------------------

> Here's diddler teachin her retarded kid's schoolmates
> HOWE to be RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS:

> "You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
> taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
> in full chase and ask them to drop anything
> they are doing, and they will.

> I think that should be expected of any breed,
> and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
> atre missing the boat":

> From: diddy

> Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
> Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

> Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
> couple days for school education on pet care and safe
> handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

> I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
> and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
> and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
> crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
> crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
> and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
> parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

> I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
> displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
> al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
> could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
> three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
> something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
> them and they got banished.

> To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
> look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
> himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

> I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
> But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
> been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
> time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

>            -----------------------

> Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not
> to bark whine an cry all night:


>  Subject: Oh My God
>  Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

>  Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
>  I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
>  fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
>  listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
>  the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

>  After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
>  securely in a horse stall for the night.

>  She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
>  day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
>  out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
>  DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
>  to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
>  spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
>  going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

>  At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
>  allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
>  So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
>  decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
>  and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
>  was not going to be tolerated.

>  This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
>  (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
>  (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
>  sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
>  anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
>  from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
>  confinement.)

>  I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
>  I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
>  playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of *** on
>  the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
>  take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

>  That *** didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
>  Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
>  I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
>  behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
>  and corresponding coyote breeding season.

>  Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
>  She had *** (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

>  I had her at the vets office this morning before he
>  opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
>  up with huge air pockets.

>  Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
>  said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
>  that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
>  because she was chewing it. That would explain
>  EVERYTHING.

>  The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
>  cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
>  it works its way through.

>  Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
>  require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
>  afford. I will manage.

>  Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
>  for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
>  treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
>  clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
>  --
>  diddy

>               ----------------

> Here's diddler's SUCCESS with puppys:

> "Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
> Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
> before I could get him.

> a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
> chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.

> I think he's never going to  be allowed out ever
> again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.

> Re: Tuck's SAR experience



>  I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
>  had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
>  now two keys missing.

...

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Please please please can someone help me

Post by sheil » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:40:40




Quote:
> HOWEDY diddler you pathteic miserable stinkin lyin
> animal ***in active acute chronic long term incurable
> punk thug coward mental case and dog trainin FRAUD
> and SCAM ARTIST,




> > > He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
> > > have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
> > > hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
> > > me?
> > > Sheila

> > You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.

> That so, diddler?

> You think jerkin, chokin dogs on pronged spiked pinch ***
> collars an shockin them is gonna make the dog FEEL SAFE?

> You think Sheila got a ATV she can drag her dog behind for
> fif*** miles a day to tire him out so she can start jerkin an
> chokin IT around people like HOWE you was gonna do to
> paulie's dog Muttley who WENT INSANE in janet boss's
> OBEDIENCE CLASS on accHOWENTA that MENTAL
> CASE wouldn't stop JERKIN an CHOKIN him on her
> CUSTOM MADE PRONGED SPIKED PINCH ***
> COLLAR?

> > not only will this get his socialization started,

> There AIN'T no "OBEDIENCE SCHOOL" that'll take in an
> aggressive dog. She'll have to go to PRIVATE TRAININ
> like HOWE you done for timmy aka buzzsaw. You jerked
> and choked an shocked Max till he turned blue and STILL
> you couldn't DETER him from chasin squirrels. Imagine if
> Max was human aggressive, he'd of ***ed you as you
> deserve, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
> mental case.

> > it will put you in contact with people who can show you
> > how to handle him, and teach him how to handle himself.

> Yeah, that's right, diddler. When you finally GAVE UP on
> tryin to jerk ***an shock timmy's dog you offered your
> MENTAL CASE PAL to come bye for regular jerkin an chokin
> an shockin lessons on accHOWENTA "she needs to get out
> of the house because she's been takin care of her mentally
> ill family member". REMEMBER diddler? I wish I could find
> that post, you probably set it to EXXXPIRE in six days as
> you have a habit of doin with your IMPORTANT posts <{): ~ ( >

> Here's a LITTLE BIT of your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
> you pathetic stinkin lyin animal ***in mental case.

> Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's dog to stay HOWETA
> her garbage can::

> "My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
> Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
> Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road
> Cheered," diddler.


> Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
> Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

> I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
> I would react. There would be none left standing
> to deal with the threat just in case.

> If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
> continents stop me from pursuing justice.

> Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
> someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
> dog might not mean THAT much to him.

> If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
> dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
> certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

> (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
> was it doing in his yard?)

> I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
> horses and called him to help me find it. I would
> do the same for threatening my dog.

> My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> trash up and down our road for years making an
> unbelievable mess.

> When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
> cheered. Animal control had never been able in
> years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
> was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
> and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
> but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
> NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

> -----------------------------------

> Here's diddler teachin her retarded kid's schoolmates
> HOWE to be RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS:

> "You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
> taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
> in full chase and ask them to drop anything
> they are doing, and they will.

> I think that should be expected of any breed,
> and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
> atre missing the boat":

> From: diddy

> Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
> Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

> Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
> couple days for school education on pet care and safe
> handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

> I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
> and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
> and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
> crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
> crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
> and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
> parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

> I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
> displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
> al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
> could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
> three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
> something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
> them and they got banished.

> To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
> look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
> himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

> I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
> But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
> been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
> time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

>            -----------------------

> Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not
> to bark whine an cry all night:


>  Subject: Oh My God
>  Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

>  Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
>  I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
>  fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
>  listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
>  the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

>  After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
>  securely in a horse stall for the night.

>  She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
>  day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
>  out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
>  DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
>  to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
>  spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
>  going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

>  At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
>  allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
>  So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
>  decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
>  and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
>  was not going to be tolerated.

>  This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
>  (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
>  (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
>  sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
>  anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
>  from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
>  confinement.)

>  I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
>  I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
>  playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of *** on
>  the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
>  take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

>  That *** didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
>  Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
>  I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
>  behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
>  and corresponding coyote breeding season.

>  Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
>  She had *** (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

>  I had her at the vets office this morning before he
>  opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
>  up with huge air pockets.

>  Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
>  said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
>  that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
>  because she was chewing it. That would explain
>  EVERYTHING.

>  The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
>  cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
>  it works its way through.

>  Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
>  require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
>  afford. I will manage.

>  Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
>  for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
>  treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
>  clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
>  --
>  diddy

>               ----------------

> Here's diddler's SUCCESS with puppys:

> "Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
> Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
> before I could get him.

> a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
> chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.

> I think he's never going to  be allowed out ever
> again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.

> Re: Tuck's SAR experience



>  I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
>  had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
>  now two keys missing.

...

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Please please please can someone help me

Post by sheil » Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:49:12


Putting him in training classes is not an option, he will just try to
attack them, i havent found anywhere that will take on an aggressive
dog.
Im not in to hurting him and i dont want to use anything like shock
collers,
he is stressed enough
I want to calm him down and try to get him to listen to us.
when we got him, he was out on a walk with about 20 other dogs, all off
the lead and running riot, there were about 20 other peopke there too
and he didnt even bat an eyelid,
Thanks why im so confused.
We were complete strangers to him and yet he sat in the back of our car
for the journy back to scotland without any aggression to us.
Are we doing something wrong?
We just bought a halti for him and he hates it but it does stop his
pulling, we had him on a harness before that but that just made his
power seem even stronger
i have no idea of his history either as he came from a rescue so i cant
pin this behaviour on anything
HELP!!! please
Quote:



> > HOWEDY diddler you pathteic miserable stinkin lyin
> > animal ***in active acute chronic long term incurable
> > punk thug coward mental case and dog trainin FRAUD
> > and SCAM ARTIST,




> > > > He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
> > > > have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
> > > > hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
> > > > me?
> > > > Sheila

> > > You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.

> > That so, diddler?

> > You think jerkin, chokin dogs on pronged spiked pinch ***
> > collars an shockin them is gonna make the dog FEEL SAFE?

> > You think Sheila got a ATV she can drag her dog behind for
> > fif*** miles a day to tire him out so she can start jerkin an
> > chokin IT around people like HOWE you was gonna do to
> > paulie's dog Muttley who WENT INSANE in janet boss's
> > OBEDIENCE CLASS on accHOWENTA that MENTAL
> > CASE wouldn't stop JERKIN an CHOKIN him on her
> > CUSTOM MADE PRONGED SPIKED PINCH ***
> > COLLAR?

> > > not only will this get his socialization started,

> > There AIN'T no "OBEDIENCE SCHOOL" that'll take in an
> > aggressive dog. She'll have to go to PRIVATE TRAININ
> > like HOWE you done for timmy aka buzzsaw. You jerked
> > and choked an shocked Max till he turned blue and STILL
> > you couldn't DETER him from chasin squirrels. Imagine if
> > Max was human aggressive, he'd of ***ed you as you
> > deserve, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
> > mental case.

> > > it will put you in contact with people who can show you
> > > how to handle him, and teach him how to handle himself.

> > Yeah, that's right, diddler. When you finally GAVE UP on
> > tryin to jerk ***an shock timmy's dog you offered your
> > MENTAL CASE PAL to come bye for regular jerkin an chokin
> > an shockin lessons on accHOWENTA "she needs to get out
> > of the house because she's been takin care of her mentally
> > ill family member". REMEMBER diddler? I wish I could find
> > that post, you probably set it to EXXXPIRE in six days as
> > you have a habit of doin with your IMPORTANT posts <{): ~ ( >

> > Here's a LITTLE BIT of your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
> > you pathetic stinkin lyin animal ***in mental case.

> > Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's dog to stay HOWETA
> > her garbage can::

> > "My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
> > Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
> > Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road
> > Cheered," diddler.


> > Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
> > Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

> > I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
> > I would react. There would be none left standing
> > to deal with the threat just in case.

> > If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
> > continents stop me from pursuing justice.

> > Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
> > someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
> > dog might not mean THAT much to him.

> > If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
> > dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
> > certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

> > (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
> > was it doing in his yard?)

> > I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
> > horses and called him to help me find it. I would
> > do the same for threatening my dog.

> > My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> > trash up and down our road for years making an
> > unbelievable mess.

> > When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
> > cheered. Animal control had never been able in
> > years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
> > was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
> > and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
> > but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
> > NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

> > -----------------------------------

> > Here's diddler teachin her retarded kid's schoolmates
> > HOWE to be RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS:

> > "You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
> > taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
> > in full chase and ask them to drop anything
> > they are doing, and they will.

> > I think that should be expected of any breed,
> > and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
> > atre missing the boat":

> > From: diddy

> > Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
> > Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

> > Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
> > couple days for school education on pet care and safe
> > handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

> > I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
> > and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
> > and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
> > crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
> > crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
> > and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
> > parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

> > I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
> > displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
> > al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
> > could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
> > three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
> > something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
> > them and they got banished.

> > To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
> > look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
> > himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

> > I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
> > But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
> > been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
> > time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

> >            -----------------------

> > Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not
> > to bark whine an cry all night:


> >  Subject: Oh My God
> >  Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

> >  Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
> >  I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
> >  fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
> >  listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
> >  the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

> >  After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
> >  securely in a horse stall for the night.

> >  She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
> >  day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
> >  out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
> >  DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
> >  to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
> >  spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
> >  going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

> >  At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
> >  allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
> >  So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
> >  decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
> >  and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
> >  was not going to be tolerated.

> >  This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
> >  (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
> >  (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
> >  sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
> >  anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
> >  from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
> >  confinement.)

> >  I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
> >  I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
> >  playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of *** on
> >  the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
> >  take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

> >  That *** didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
> >  Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
> >  I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
> >  behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
> >  and corresponding coyote breeding season.

> >  Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
> >  She had *** (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

> >  I had her at the vets office this morning before he
> >  opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
> >  up with huge air pockets.

> >  Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I

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Please please please can someone help me

Post by Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat.. » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:42:25


HOWEDY Sheila,

Quote:

> Putting him in training classes is not an option, he will just try to
> attack them, i havent found anywhere that will take on an aggressive
> dog.

JUST LIKE HOWE The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, ***, Birdy And Horsey Wizard SAID.

Quote:
> Im not in to hurting him and i dont want to use anything like shock
> collers, he is stressed enough I want to calm him down and try to
>  get him to listen to us.

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               AND FOLLOW IT PRECISELY.

Quote:
> when we got him, he was out on a walk with about 20 other dogs, all off
> the lead and running riot, there were about 20 other peopke there too
> and he didnt even bat an eyelid,

> Thanks why im so confused.

He's TRYIN to PROTECT you.

Your efforts to STOP him makes him MORE AFRAID and AGGRESSIVE.

Quote:
> We were complete strangers to him and yet he sat in the back of our
> car for the journy back to scotland without any aggression to us.

Your dog LOVES you and is TRYING to PROVE IT by PROTECTIN you.

Quote:
> Are we doing something wrong?

Yes. Your handling of his LEASH is INTIMIDATING him
and INCREASING FEAR. You've got to keep him on a
LOOSE LEASH and you AIN'T GONNA LEARN HOWE
to do THAT anywhere in the WHOWEL WILD WORLD
other than from Your Puppy Wizard <{): ~ ) >

Quote:
> We just bought a halti for him and he hates it

Of curse!

The halti AS PER its INSTRUCTIONS, subordinates and
INTIMIDATES the dog and INCREASES FEAR and
anXXXIHOWESNESS <{) : ~ (  >

Quote:
> but it does stop his pulling,

You must use it EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of
its INSTRUCTIONS. The halti was originally the K-9 Kum-
A-Long designed by Dra. Alice DeGroot. When I talked to
her again a few months ago she was HORRIFIED at what
the "behaviorists" who stole her patented design and remade
it into the fear force and intimidation device the halti and
"gentle leader" were designed and intended to be.

If you put it on your dog's head somewhat LOOSE, and DO
NOT apply TENSION to it, it will work marvelHOWESLY <{): ~ ) >
But you gotta LEARN HOWE to pupperly handle your leash.

To overcome his initial OBJECTION to the feel of a head collar,
use the distraction and praise technique in your WEDTM Manual.

Quote:
>  we had him on a harness before that but that
>  just  made his power seem even stronger

Because you are trying to FORCE CON-TROLL. If you
put him in harness and handle your lead AS INSTRUCTED
in your FREE WEDTM Manual it will work as perfectly as
the halti. The PROBLEM is in your HANDS, not the dog.

Quote:
> i have no idea of his history either

That's IRRELEVENT.

                        A DOG Is A Dog;
                      As A KAT Is A KAT;
                    As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                    As A HORSE Is A HORSE;
                    As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
                  As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
             As A Mass ***er Is A Mass ***er.

                 ALL Critters Only Respond In
              PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                  INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
       To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                   Which We Create For Them.

              You GET The Critter You TRAINED

             In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                       FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                       SAME SAME SAME SAME,
            For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

          Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
               We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
                  And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

 ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

        "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                   and you will know each other.
         If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
                and what you do not know you will fear.

                   What one fears, one destroys."
                      Chief Dan George

Quote:
> as he came from a rescue so i cant pin this behaviour on anything

His behavior is NORMAL. You're triggerin AGGRESSION by tryin
to FORCE CON-TROLL. STUDY YOUR WEDT MANUAL and your
dog will be GENTLE and SAFE till he NEEDS to PROTECT you.

Quote:
> HELP!!! please

You WILL NOT GET ANY HELP from these pathetic miserable
stinkin lyin animal ***in active acute chronic long term
incurable MENTAL CASES who jerk ***shock bribe crate
intimdiate surgically ***ly mutilate and *** innocent
defenseless dumb critters like your dog AND LIE abHOWET IT<{): ~ ( >

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can
Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving
Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific Management Of
Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition,"  Ivan P. Pavlov

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

"All animals learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY
model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse,
Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were
moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and learning
immediately deteriorated."

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

          The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
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                     And Could Not Obtain
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                  ALL OVER The Whole Wild World,
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Quote:



> > > HOWEDY diddler you pathteic miserable stinkin lyin
> > > animal ***in active acute chronic long term incurable
> > > punk thug coward mental case and dog trainin FRAUD
> > > and SCAM ARTIST,




> > > > > He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on, i
> > > > > have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end up
> > > > > hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone help
> > > > > me?
> > > > > Sheila

> > > > You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.

> > > That so, diddler?

> > > You think jerkin, chokin dogs on pronged spiked pinch ***
> > > collars an shockin them is gonna make the dog FEEL SAFE?

> > > You think Sheila got a ATV she can drag her dog behind for
> > > fif*** miles a day to tire him out so she can start jerkin an
> > > chokin IT around people like HOWE you was gonna do to
> > > paulie's dog Muttley who WENT INSANE in janet boss's
> > > OBEDIENCE CLASS on

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Please please please can someone help me

Post by Mens _ Cani » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:37


sheila schrieb:
Quote:
> Putting him in training classes is not an option, he will just try to
> attack them, i havent found anywhere that will take on an aggressive
> dog.
> Im not in to hurting him and i dont want to use anything like shock
> collers,
> he is stressed enough
> I want to calm him down and try to get him to listen to us.

good evening sheila.
please be patient with your dog.
(be also patient with me if you find some mistakes in english. thanks!)
by an age of abt 20 months its a very young dog and
he has to learn a lot ;-)

i live in vienna with a shephard whom i found some years ago nearby the
italian highway (rome) and a sharplaninac who was coming out of a
hungarian "death-lager".
none of my dogs knew a leash. they tried the same "little games" with me
as your dog does now.
(my advantage... i have had dogs since 1987)

8 days are really _nothing_ referring any good education of your dog.
"shock collars" are forbidden here in austria for a very good reason:
with these methods you could easily *destroy* the best character of any
dog !!

1. _leash_
when your dog pulls on his leash please _turn__around_: go into the
other direction. turn back. he will follow you.
step by step he will learn that there is no sense in pulling you away.

2. _behavior__with__other__dogs_
do you know someone (friend) who has a very quiet and sovereign dog?
this should help.  ;-)

beg him to stay with _his_ dog in a distance of ~30 meters.
then pass by different times.
when your dog calmes down - and he _will_ do ! praise him. - reduce the
distance to ~20 meters (for the first time for about half an hour).

at the beginning don't go too near to the other dog.
you must try different times/different days. so your dog will learn that
other dogs are no problem.

3. _visitors__in__your__house_
eventually - for a certain period - there would be helpful a muzzle.
you _and__only__you_ tell your dog to stay away.
visitors first ignore him.

when the dog has calmed down your friend chucks a "goodie" in the
direction of the dog. after then he moves in a certain distance (but
does _not_ look at the dog) dropping another "goodie".

(btw. try the same thing with ringing or knocking at the door.
try different times on different days. always when your dog is quiet:
praise him. you can force it: someone of your familiy should go out and
make a 'terrible noise' at the door.)

Quote:
> when we got him, he was out on a walk with about 20 other dogs, all off
> the lead and running riot, there were about 20 other peopke there too
> and he didnt even bat an eyelid,
> Thanks why im so confused.

your dog has a very good sense for _your__own_ confusion.
you too should relax  ;-)
there is no miracle in a good and _consequent_ education of your dog.
love understanding and a very simple  YES  or  NO  is the basis.
never give ambiguous commands (there is *never* any "_perhaps_" in your
dog training !!).

Quote:
> We were complete strangers to him and yet he sat in the back of our car
> for the journy back to scotland without any aggression to us.

perfect  :-) good guy.

4. _most__important__thing_
praising the dog <always> when he did as you wanted is an important factor.
but you must do it in the *right* moment:
for example.
my sharplaninac girl really loves !! any kind of dog food and tried to
eat everything she found in the street. of course i can't accept because
you never know what your dear dog _is_ really eating... :-(
therefore a strict  NO. when she let it be i _suddenly_ praised her.

Quote:
> Are we doing something wrong?
> We just bought a halti for him and he hates it but it does stop his
> pulling,

i tried with 'halti' too. then a special day i decided to leave it off.
i think my dogs are <more> happy without and feel better...

Quote:
> we had him on a harness before that but that just made his
> power seem even stronger
> i have no idea of his history either as he came from a rescue so i cant
> pin this behaviour on anything
> HELP!!!

hope i could help only a little bit...

have a good time with your wonderful dog !!

best viennese greetings
mens_canis + cirillo + cora

 
 
 

Please please please can someone help me

Post by Spot » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:27:46


Like Diddy said the dog and you need to go obedience class.  If he's
agressive and you are worried get a 1 on 1 class with an instructor or
possibly take him to class but muzzle him.  There are no quick fixes just a
lot of training.

Celeste


Putting him in training classes is not an option, he will just try to
attack them, i havent found anywhere that will take on an aggressive
dog.
Im not in to hurting him and i dont want to use anything like shock
collers,
he is stressed enough
I want to calm him down and try to get him to listen to us.
when we got him, he was out on a walk with about 20 other dogs, all off
the lead and running riot, there were about 20 other peopke there too
and he didnt even bat an eyelid,
Thanks why im so confused.
We were complete strangers to him and yet he sat in the back of our car
for the journy back to scotland without any aggression to us.
Are we doing something wrong?
We just bought a halti for him and he hates it but it does stop his
pulling, we had him on a harness before that but that just made his
power seem even stronger
i have no idea of his history either as he came from a rescue so i cant
pin this behaviour on anything
HELP!!! please

Quote:



> > HOWEDY diddler you pathteic miserable stinkin lyin
> > animal ***in active acute chronic long term incurable
> > punk thug coward mental case and dog trainin FRAUD
> > and SCAM ARTIST,



> > > posted

> > > > He is so loving in the house that i cant understand whats going on,
> > > > i
> > > > have only had him about 8 days now but im so scared that he will end
> > > > up
> > > > hurting someone and i now dread taking him out, please can anyone
> > > > help
> > > > me?
> > > > Sheila

> > > You need to enroll him in obedience school as soon as possible.

> > That so, diddler?

> > You think jerkin, chokin dogs on pronged spiked pinch ***
> > collars an shockin them is gonna make the dog FEEL SAFE?

> > You think Sheila got a ATV she can drag her dog behind for
> > fif*** miles a day to tire him out so she can start jerkin an
> > chokin IT around people like HOWE you was gonna do to
> > paulie's dog Muttley who WENT INSANE in janet boss's
> > OBEDIENCE CLASS on accHOWENTA that MENTAL
> > CASE wouldn't stop JERKIN an CHOKIN him on her
> > CUSTOM MADE PRONGED SPIKED PINCH ***
> > COLLAR?

> > > not only will this get his socialization started,

> > There AIN'T no "OBEDIENCE SCHOOL" that'll take in an
> > aggressive dog. She'll have to go to PRIVATE TRAININ
> > like HOWE you done for timmy aka buzzsaw. You jerked
> > and choked an shocked Max till he turned blue and STILL
> > you couldn't DETER him from chasin squirrels. Imagine if
> > Max was human aggressive, he'd of ***ed you as you
> > deserve, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
> > mental case.

> > > it will put you in contact with people who can show you
> > > how to handle him, and teach him how to handle himself.

> > Yeah, that's right, diddler. When you finally GAVE UP on
> > tryin to jerk ***an shock timmy's dog you offered your
> > MENTAL CASE PAL to come bye for regular jerkin an chokin
> > an shockin lessons on accHOWENTA "she needs to get out
> > of the house because she's been takin care of her mentally
> > ill family member". REMEMBER diddler? I wish I could find
> > that post, you probably set it to EXXXPIRE in six days as
> > you have a habit of doin with your IMPORTANT posts <{): ~ ( >

> > Here's a LITTLE BIT of your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
> > you pathetic stinkin lyin animal ***in mental case.

> > Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's dog to stay HOWETA
> > her garbage can::

> > "My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
> > Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
> > Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road
> > Cheered," diddler.


> > Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
> > Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

> > I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
> > I would react. There would be none left standing
> > to deal with the threat just in case.

> > If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
> > continents stop me from pursuing justice.

> > Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
> > someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
> > dog might not mean THAT much to him.

> > If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
> > dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
> > certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

> > (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
> > was it doing in his yard?)

> > I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
> > horses and called him to help me find it. I would
> > do the same for threatening my dog.

> > My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> > trash up and down our road for years making an
> > unbelievable mess.

> > When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
> > cheered. Animal control had never been able in
> > years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
> > was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
> > and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
> > but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
> > NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

> > -----------------------------------

> > Here's diddler teachin her retarded kid's schoolmates
> > HOWE to be RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS:

> > "You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
> > taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
> > in full chase and ask them to drop anything
> > they are doing, and they will.

> > I think that should be expected of any breed,
> > and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
> > atre missing the boat":

> > From: diddy

> > Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
> > Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

> > Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
> > couple days for school education on pet care and safe
> > handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

> > I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
> > and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
> > and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
> > crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
> > crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
> > and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
> > parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

> > I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
> > displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
> > al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
> > could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
> > three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
> > something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
> > them and they got banished.

> > To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
> > look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
> > himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

> > I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
> > But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
> > been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
> > time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

> >            -----------------------

> > Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not
> > to bark whine an cry all night:


> >  Subject: Oh My God
> >  Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

> >  Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
> >  I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
> >  fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
> >  listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
> >  the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

> >  After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
> >  securely in a horse stall for the night.

> >  She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
> >  day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
> >  out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
> >  DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
> >  to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
> >  spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
> >  going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

> >  At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
> >  allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
> >  So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
> >  decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
> >  and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
> >  was not going to be tolerated.

> >  This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
> >  (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
> >  (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
> >  sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
> >  anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
> >  from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
> >  confinement.)

> >  I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
> >  I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
> >  playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of *** on
> >  the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
> >  take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

> >  That *** didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
> >  Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
> >  I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
> >  behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat

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Please please please can someone help me

Post by Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat.. » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:27:44


HOWEDY spot you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
active acute chronic long term incurable TOP POSTIN mental case,

Quote:



>> Putting him in training classes is not an option, he will just try to
>> attack them, i havent found anywhere that will take on an aggressive
>> dog. Im not in to hurting him and i dont want to use anything like shock
>> collers, he is stressed enough I want to calm him down and try to get
>>him to listen to us.
> Like Diddy said

You mean 'AS diddler SEZ'.

Quote:
>  the dog and you need to go obedience class.

That's ABSURD.

Quote:
>  If he's agressive and you are worried get a 1 on 1 class with an instructor

You mean JUST LIKE HOWE pauie done with your punk thug coward
active acute chronic long term incurable mental case pal janet and her
CUSTOM MADE PRONGED SPIKED PINCH ***COLLAR that
made Muttley GO INSANE and attack a puppy in her OBEDIENCE CLASS?

Quote:
>  or possibly take him to class but muzzle him.

Muzzles make fear aggressive dogs MORE FEARFUL.

Quote:
>   There are no quick fixes just a  lot of training.

That's INSANE, spotty. ANY dog can be trained NEARLY
INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERYTHING EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you done to cripple
your own hyperactive fear aggressive HOWETA CON-TROLL
dogs.

Quote:
> Celeste

Here's just a BRIEF SAMPLE from YOUR OWN POSTED
CASE HISTORY of JERKIN CHOKIN an SHOCKIN DOGS:


Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:35:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Collateral damage/bark collar

Since you are home why not get an ecollar that you
completely control.  I bought one of these and used
it to train Lady for the quiet command.

She would go outside and flip out barking at absolutely
nothing and there was no shutting her up.  The one I
bought has a tone button and a stimulation button with
10 levels from 1 to 10.

Some people absolutely hate these things and in my situation
it was either get her under control or send her back to the
farm.  It was the best 90.00 I have ever spent.

It took less than 3 days to get through to her that
quiet meant to stop barking.  I give her the command
QUIET and would tone her and she'd hesitate a second
then back into it. I would then repeat QUIET and tone
her again I repeated this 3 times before I started
using the stimulation.   It took a level 4 to get her
to stop and in less than 3 days she was over it.

 She now knows what QUIET means and I also used it in
training her to stop chasing rabbits.  She still chases
them out of the yard but knows that she doesn't run
around the end of the fencing at the bottom of the
drive way after them.

Celeste

Date: 23 Jan 2005 08:21:07 -0800
Subject: Re: How Do I Handle Her?

HOWEDY spot,


Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005
Subject: Re: How Do I Handle Her?

Quote:
> I have always used a no-pull halter

That's a *** harness, spot. Dogs DON'T LIKE
GETTIN CHOKED no matter HOWE you call it, spot.

Quote:
> and it works like a charm.

It HURTS and INTIMDIATES your dog and teaches IT
to FEAR you HURTING HIM someMOORE, spot.

Quote:
> You can find them at Walmart sometimes and
> most any pet store will carry them.

Yeah. But you won't find ANY intelligent kindly
dog owners using them, spot. ONLY DOG ABUSERS
HURT INTIMDIATE and *** innocent critters
and try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.

Quote:
> It's a collar the 2 D rings at the bottom and a
> Yshaped piece at the top. There are 2 other
> padded strips of cording where you slide one
> under each leg from the top Y connector and
> attach to the individual D rings below. The top
> piece of these slide through the Y at the top
> and leash attaches to the top.

> Basically when the dog pulls it tightens and puts
> pressuer under the legs.

And they LIKE THAT, do they, spot?

Quote:
> The dogs don't like the pressure

Ohhh. HOWE COME?

Quote:
>  and it throws them off balance as they pull harder.

And that's to teach the dog to naturally want to be
with you every place you go, is that correct, spot?

Quote:
> They soon learn not to pull.

That so, spot?

Your dog AIN'T PULLIN on accHOWENT of
you're HURTING HIM. Take off your ***
harness and your dog will pull. Take off your
leash and your dog will RUN HOWET ON YOU
on accHOWENT of you're a dog abusing punk
thug coward mental case.

REMEMBER, spotty?

Quote:
> I had tried everything out there to walk Barney

You mean you TRIED EVERY THING TO HURT YOUR DOG, spot.

Quote:
> and nothing else would ever work.

Oh. THAT'S on accHOWENT of there AIN'T NO
APUPRIATE WAY TO HURT and INTIMIDATE
your dog, spot. THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS
GO NUTS and GET DEAD, spot.

Quote:
>  He would constantly pull me

On accHOWENT of you was CONSTANTLY
TRYING TO ***HIM, spot.

Quote:
> once I found these halters the whole walking
> experience was a joy.

That so?:

"The dogs don't like the pressure and it throws
them off balance as they pull harder."

Quote:
> Celeste

And THAT'S HOWE COME you CANNOT TRAIN your dog.

And THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ
"when you post here abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy
Wizard will QUOTE YOU and leave you F'd OFF for
the last of your dignity and self respect IF you
EVER THOUGHT you EVER had any to begin with."

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <); ~ )  >

HERE'S YOU HURTING YOUR DOGS AND LYING ABHOWET IT:

Re: Anti-bark collar?

HOWEDY spot,

Quote:

> Like Marie says

marie is a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE like
yourself, spot. marie's dog Macula has attacked
innocent passersbye and is no longer welcome to
join her pals in their dog walking club and marie
just wrote in last week abHOWET her dog Macula's
EXXXCESSIVE BARKING followed by shittin in her
HOWES <{); ~ ) >

Quote:
> they are a great training tool

That so? HOWE COME IT DIDN'T WORK for marie?

Quote:
> and should be used as such.

You're a dog abusing mental case, spot. You
HURT and INTIMIDATE and *** dogs and LIE
abHOWET it.

Quote:
> I purchased the PetSafe Deluxe Big Dog Trainer at www.petco.com

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

Quote:
>  It is not automatic like some collars that go off
> when the dog barks.  With this there is a remote
> that you control.  The idea is to give a verbal
> correction

You mean scold threaten and intimidate...

Quote:
> followed by a tone.

MOORE scolding threatening and intimidating...

Quote:
>  If that does not work after you tone the dog once or twice

You mean, there's NO CONSISTENT METHOD?

Quote:
>  you then have the option of giving it an stimulation

You mean a medical grade static like stimulation.

Quote:
> from levels of 1 to 10 depending upon the dogs reaction.

Dogs GO INSANE from gettin shocked, spot.

Quote:
> I initially bought it due to her flipping out over
> a neighbor shoveling snow.

You mean you got THE SAME PROBLEM.

Quote:
>  After she was spooked by this she thought that every
> time she went out she had to take barking fits regardless
> of the time of day or night.

She was AFRAID.

So you HURT her.

Quote:
> Like yourself I don't want my neighbors pissed off at me

You're a VERY nice lady.

Quote:
>  and with our hours it's not unusual to take her out at 3 am.

Yeah...

Quote:
>  I found that in less than 2 days with a small
>  amount of stimulation she learned what quiet ment.

That so?

Quote:
> I also found that her prey drive is high and used the
> collar to break her of bunny chasing.

That so?

Quote:
> The first time she got away from me before I knew what
> was going on.  The next morning I was waiting for her
> and she barely got around the fence and to the back
> corner before I left her have it at level 10.

You could train your dog not to chase bunnys by PRAISING her.

Quote:
> This may seem cruel to some people

Not to HOWER dog lovers...

Quote:
> but if it means when I yell stop that she does

If you TRAINED her NOT TO DO THAT you WOULDN'T
NEED to SHOCK her when she doesn't stop when
you yell stop...

Quote:
>  it's worth that little bit she had to endure.

That so?

Quote:
> Just yesterday she started down my drive way barking
> at the neighbor.

See?

Quote:
> I yelled Lady stop and back she came.

You got LUCKY.

Quote:
>  She wasn't even wearing the collar.

BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!

Quote:
>   I rarely put it on her now.

Right...

Quote:
> Celeste



 Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
 it felt like to me when I got shocked by
 Hope's collar.

 It felt like a bomb going off in my
 hand and forearm.

        --------------------------------


Quote:
>> how effective are these electronic fences in
>> keeping a dog on a property????

 Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
 too scared to go out in the yard anymore.

 Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
 because the dog got caught right in the path of
 the shock and will now not go near his person,
 won't go outside.

 Just hides under a desk in the house.

------------------------

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.

"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without
starting the whole cruelty thread again so I'll
state my opinion once and won't defend it further:
any method can be cruel for some dogs.

Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but we've come a long way since then.She trusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.

Is it time for that?

What might I look for to tell?"


 After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
 Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
 is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
 keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
 up, I don't see
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Please please please can someone help me

Post by unsurreality_2.. » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:15:30




Quote:
> HOWEDY spot you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal ***in
> active acute chronic long term incurable TOP POSTIN mental case,




> >> Putting him in training classes is not an option, he will just try to
> >> attack them, i havent found anywhere that will take on an aggressive
> >> dog. Im not in to hurting him and i dont want to use anything like shock
> >> collers, he is stressed enough I want to calm him down and try to get
> >>him to listen to us.

> > Like Diddy said

> You mean 'AS diddler SEZ'.

> >  the dog and you need to go obedience class.

> That's ABSURD.

That's ABSURD?!?  For someone to want to go to obedience classes?!?
Just HOW ***ing insane ARE you?!?  Are you ***ing JEALOUS again that
someone would choose a professional obedience school over your crappy
manual???  

You are such an imbecile I can't even put it into words...

 
 
 

Please please please can someone help me

Post by Bigjo » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:21:51




ERMmmmmmmm?

Quote:
> <<<<<<     cut

WHO in the world is m*ron enough
to quote all that b*llsh*t ??????