Puppy socialization - negative?

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Puppy socialization - negative?

Post by Jana » Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:00:00



Just wondering if any of you all feel it is necessary to socialize
your puppy to negative situations, as well as positive?    I don't mean
things like car rides, loud noises, etc, but things like people or other
dogs that simply don't like puppies?  For instance, my grandmother hates
dogs.   So does my aunt's dog (tho my aunt is friendly :))    should I
introduce my puppy to people who are cold towards dogs?   If she only
meets friendly peole, will she feel upset if some people don't like
her?  It's just a fact of life that not everybody will like my dog -
should she get used to it early?
 (Rhetorical question only - I don't have a pup yet)

Jana

 
 
 

Puppy socialization - negative?

Post by Colin Leak » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>Just wondering if any of you all feel it is necessary to socialize
>your puppy to negative situations, as well as positive?    I don't mean
>things like car rides, loud noises, etc, but things like people or other
>dogs that simply don't like puppies?  For instance, my grandmother hates
>dogs.   So does my aunt's dog (tho my aunt is friendly :))    should I
>introduce my puppy to people who are cold towards dogs?   If she only
>meets friendly peole, will she feel upset if some people don't like
>her?  It's just a fact of life that not everybody will like my dog -
>should she get used to it early?
> (Rhetorical question only - I don't have a pup yet)

In gerneral, the more your pup experiences (both positive and negative), the
more it learns. This is why home reared pups settle down more quickly,
they're already used to things like washing machines and vacuum cleaners
when they come to their new home.

I wouldn't say that you need to deliberately introduce a pup to people who
don't like dogs. If you have your puppy with you whenever you can
(respecting others wishes of course), you will naturally come into contact
with such people. You definately shouldn't worry about her feelings being
upset. Dogs are usually good at finding out who's who. You could even teach
her to *greet* only on command.

Socializing with other dogs is very important. When a dog acts aggressively
towards another dog, it's usually because it's giving off the wrong signals
and not because of any *feelings* towards it. It's important that your pup
learns what the right signals are. Interaction with other dogs is the only
way to learn, even though this sometimes has to be learned the hard way.
Positive interaction is best, your pup shouldn't see all other dogs as a
threat, luckily most dogs will tolerate puppies much better than *** dogs,
so it's difficult to say how your aunt's dog will react.

Good luck with your pup, what kind are you thinking of getting?
Colin Leake

 
 
 

Puppy socialization - negative?

Post by Saxon Bro » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00


  Jana,

   I think that there is a distinction between the question(s) that you
are asking, so I will try to parse it out as *I* read it- correct me if I
am wrong.

   It sounds like what you are saying is that you DO see the value in
socializing your pup to new things.  Good.  But, from what I read, you
understand that there are people and dogs out there who don't like dogs,
and you are wondering how to introduce your dog to this situation, because
if dog loving people& dogs are the only kind the pup meets, then it will
think that all are friendly.

   okay, I hope that I am right so far.

If so, then we are talking about two completely different things.  One is
socialization, the other is training.

   Socialization involves exposing your dog to new things so the dog is
confident and outgoing.  Training is when you teach your dog to not
approach other people and dogs without your permission.  As you have
noticed some people don't like dogs (maybe they were not properly
socialized :-)...)  Anyway, Your dog will need to know when it can and
cannot approach others.

  I don't think that there's alot to gain by purposefully introducing him
to dog-haters, it's not fair to the dog, or to the hater....  You will,
however, need to teach the dog how to approach, or not approach others.  

   I empathize with your question, because my dogs think that *almost* all
other dogs are dying to play with them, but I hold them off until I know
that play is allowed, and they are forbidden from approaching a dog that
is on leash without permission.

  So, yes, dogs need to learn when it is appropriate to approach people
& dogs, certainly, but that is a training issue, not a "negative
socialization" issue

Saxon

Quote:

>Just wondering if any of you all feel it is necessary to socialize
>your puppy to negative situations, as well as positive?    I don't mean
>things like car rides, loud noises, etc, but things like people or other
>dogs that simply don't like puppies?  For instance, my grandmother hates
>dogs.   So does my aunt's dog (tho my aunt is friendly :))    should I
>introduce my puppy to people who are cold towards dogs?   If she only
>meets friendly peole, will she feel upset if some people don't like
>her?  It's just a fact of life that not everybody will like my dog -
>should she get used to it early?
> (Rhetorical question only - I don't have a pup yet)
>Jana

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Puppy socialization - negative?

Post by AMIEVIL1 » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Just wondering if any of you all feel it is necessary to socialize
your puppy to negative situations, as well as positive?    I don't mean
things like car rides, loud noises, etc, but things like people or other
dogs that simply don't like puppies?  For instance, my grandmother hates
dogs.   So does my aunt's dog (tho my aunt is friendly :))    should I
introduce my puppy to people who are cold towards dogs?   If she only
meets friendly peole, will she feel upset if some people don't like
her?  It's just a fact of life that not everybody will like my dog -
should she get used to it early?
 (Rhetorical question only - I don't have a pup yet)<<<

When socializing a young pup I believe it is important to make all of it's
experiences positive ones.  Socializing your pup means doing the things that
the dog will be doing regularly such as going to a park with strange dogs and
humans or going to the vet, groomer, etc.  You should do your best to make all
of these experiences positive ones.  Simply going out can be traumatic enough
for a young pup so I dont think it is necessary to set up situations that your
dog finds even harder to handle.

Although, when training your dog it is a good idea to set up situations that
your dog should be taught not to do.  Such as letting the dog jump on the couch
and them reprimanding her for doing so.  

see ya

steve

 
 
 

Puppy socialization - negative?

Post by Jana » Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> Positive interaction is best, your pup shouldn't see all other dogs as > a threat, luckily most dogs will tolerate puppies much better than > *** dogs, so it's difficult to say how your aunt's dog will react.
> Good luck with your pup, what kind are you thinking of getting?
> Colin Leake


  Thanks for the help - I'm busy weighing the pros and cons of
socialization - my home doesn't have too much stimulation - just me, my
hedgehogs, and my 6 yo bichon (who detests puppies).  There are several
pets in my extended family who are puppy-friendly, though - is it better
to bring the others to my house, or take the puppy out?  The vaccination
schedule makes it tough - new experiences vs. under-vaccination.  I will
probably err on the side of new experiences, though - as much "new
stuff" in the early age before the serious fear period can set
in.         I am on a waiting list for a collie - the mom was bred this
past weekend, so s/he will be coming home about March.   Looking forward
to some stock work, Obed., maybe conformation.   A good, solid puppyhood
is a base for the rest of the dog's life... I want to do this right!

Jana