> Yanno, I think you nailed right there, in your parentheses, why I have
> such a different perspective on the situation. Unfortunately, most of the
> people I see using GLs- again, aside from at agility- don't fit the
> of "intelligent with gentle hands".
Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her,
Said "GRRRR!" And Nipped Her Ear," sionnach, Dog Lover, Trainer.
> >The dog's only 15 months old, already doesn't trust you, and you
> > think it's _the dog's_ problem -- even though you've yelled
> > at him, isolated him, and are now thinking of beating him with
> > a shoe. The fact that you think that'll work says a lot.
> Er, just as a matter of fairness-
you? THAT'S the difference between a dog trainer and a dog abuser...
to the ground and biting the dog on the ear to train him. Unless it was
in the context of an impromptu lesson... Correct me if I'm wrong.
jerking and *** and shocking and alpha rolling and biting a dog in
the context of a lesson, Vs those actions for no apparently good reason.
That's because there IS NO good excuse for such actions under ANY
circumstances. Hurting dogs in a lesson is FAIR? O.K. But hurting dogs
for PLEASURE is verbotten?
Hmm. Sounds like you've gone to the freaky frantik fraudreck and lying
"I LOVE KOEHLER" school of lying, dog abusing THUGS.
Can't you see yourself for what you are? OF COURSE YOU DO!
That's why you HURT dogs, and LIE about it. You've EARNED the title
LYING infront of your name. You are a liar, because you HURT dogs to
train them, although you say you do not.
> chase, which isn't a good idea, but not quite the same as hitting the
the ear, and HITTING him? Is there any difference in your brands of
You're a lying, dog abusing THUG:
> he said: "i shouted like crazy and chased him under a table and he
> bit me when i tried to shoe him away."
> You CANNOT **force** a terrier to do anything,
every other dog by shocking and twisting his ears and toes and
beating them with sticks, up till now all of a freakin sudden?
> get away with things": First day I had my JRT home (at that point,
> she weighed just under five pounds <g>),
according to professora gingold) and scruff shake according to our
behaviorist professor lying doc "scruff shake" dermer.
> growling and pouncing/grabbing at my hand.
> would go "Aw, isn't that cute!" and give the toy. The over-
> reacting/ignorant sort of owner
> chasing, rolling her over, etc.
ignorant overreacting owners...to hurt and confront till the puppy is
"trained." And then you'll show them HOWE to hurt and confront the
> didn't work;
FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual, becauase it does NOT
work CONSISTANTLY. That's found in dr dunbar's "excellent" work...
> behaviour, and giving me something to praise,
group where people love and respect the dogs they're working with.
> out of my hand and bolt down the trail after other dogs.
opposition reflex, positive thigmotaxis, and COMPELLS THE DOG TO PULL.
This is NOT a conscious activity. It's strictly REFLEXIVE. It's as
unthinking in the dog as all of your methods are to me. They're
simply reflexing to condtions of their situation that you in your
abyss of wisdom can't figure out even when I show you HOWE and
explain WHY your methods defeat your puporse.
> attention to anything but the other dogs
CONFRONTING the dog to ENFORCE YOUR WILL.
> grabbed her opposite foot with my left hand, rolled her on her side,
> leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and nipped her ear
toughest part of the dog's anatomy. That's why your pals need to
pinch them ears between a large coin and a shot shell or a prong in
little to intmiidate a dog. And you're a dog LOVER, so hurting and
intimidating dogs is not in YOUR repertoire of behaviors, IS IT,
FEAR THAT WAGS THE TAIL and makes your dogs SEEM to be
happily e***d to go out with your for another dose of ABUSE.
Subject: Whisper .... we won't tell your dogs ...."I Dropped The Leash,
Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With
My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Said "GRRRR!" And
Nipped Her Ear," sionnach, Dog Lover, Trainer
Date: 2002-04-03 11:30:42 PST
> > Chris Williams wrote
> > > What's the last dog to steal your heart and make you think, "If only
> > > ..."?
> > > Met a Weim at the dog-park this morning who is everything I cherish.
> > > Stella is so alert, ...so penetrating, ....so inventive, ...so sweet,
> > > .. so ..............
> Last time I *really* fell in love with another dog?? Well, a friend of
> mine showed up on the hiking trails with an eight-week-old JRT... cute,
> problem-solving intelligent, athletic, driven, nice temperament, etc.
> etc.... I *coveted* that pup!
> Four weeks later, her owner asked me if I would consider taking her.
> "You don't have to answer now" she said, "take as long as you like to
> about it." The rest, as they say, was history. <G>
training INFORMATION they needed.
Hello you miserable lying sinofa***,
For two years now you've been calling me a liar and con man and telling
folks not to believe me, that you're not a dog abuser and liar.
Well, that was THEN, and THIS is NOW. We got proof that you do EXACTLY
what I've been saying, and you've been DENYING. KNOW WHAT?
That makes YOU, A PROVEN LIAR, just like lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn, lying
dahl, lying doc "scruff shake" dermer, and professora "chin cuff
absolutely does not mean slap" gingold.
Congratulations on earning your lying title, you lying sinofa***.