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Dog IQ Contest and/or Elder Dog Contest?

Post by The Puppy Wizar » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:22:56



HOWEDY Master Of Deception blankman,


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> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:42:21 -0500 Scott T. Jensen


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> > Is there a dog contest(s) that judges how smart the dogs are?

The doggy intelligence tests are written by folks
who don't have the intellect to HOWEtwit the
cunning of the domestic puppy dog.

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> >  Dogs are breed for so many things.

INDEEDY.

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> >  How about for intelligence?

HOWER dog lovers breed DHOWEN so their
dogs won't HOWEtwit them.

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> There are ways of evaluating various aspects of intelligence
> but its a very broad a concept

That so? You mean, you don't know nuthin abHOWET it.

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> Is a dog that knows what is wanted but chooses not
> to comply unless you make it worth his while

You mean BRIBE or HURT IT, Master Of Deception blankman?

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>  more or less intelligent than the dog that slavishly follows
> every command?

You mean, HOWETA FEAR of gettin BEAT with your
shepheerd's crook and jerked and choked on your
pronged spiked pinch ***collar, Master Of
Deception blankman?

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>  Is the dog that learns one way that is successful

You mean, like avoiding the STICK as your pal lying
frosty dahl teaches them? See "Pudge" and "Blackie."

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> and then carefully continues to use that way everytime

Or he'll GET HURT, Master Of Deception blankman.

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> more or less intelligent than the dog that experiments
> to see if another way might also work?

Well we KNOW THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN when
you HURT and INTIMIDATE and PUNISH dogs to train
them, Master Of Deception blankman. That's HOWE
COME you and your pals can't train a dog withHOWET
HURTING THEM, cause REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS.

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>  Dogs ARE bred for certain aspects of intelligence.

That so?

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>  People who are serious about competing in the sport of
> obedience look for their puppies from pedigrees with success
> in obedience.

That so? The Puppy Wizard LAUGHS at your "obedience" trials.

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> Search and rescue handlers

Oh? You mean like your partner lying "I LOVE KOEHELR" lynn
and her selectively bred hand picked and tested SAR candidate
Jive, who CAN'T BE HURT ENOUGH to make IT work on a real
life SAR site, DESPITE he gets high scores in the ring, cause he's
HURT DAILY in a ring environment, Master Of Deception blankman.

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> prefer dogs that come from a proven background of
> search and rescue.

INDEED? Does THAT accHOWENT for HOWE COME
your pal lying frosty dahl couldn't CLICKER train her chumpion
field dogs cause SHE COULDN'T HURT THEM? See "clicker
project fizzles."

You're a blowhard and a liar and a dog abuser, Master Of
Deception blankman.

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> Great obedience dogs have the ability to learn a
> large number of commands,

That so? You're full of crap. Takes you and your pals YEARS
to achieve what a dog should be able to learn in a few weeks,
cause YOU WON'T STOP HURTING THEM.

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> to understand those commands in two "languages"

BWEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

You're full of crap. Takes NO EXXXTRA time or effort
to train a dog to BOTH hand and voice signals.

You and your dog abusing Punk Thug Coward MENTALLY
ILL pals don't train them together cause you're ignorant
incomptetnt dog abusing lying blowhards, Master Of
Deception blankman.

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> and voice signals.

Oh? And don't forget whistles and other cues.

You're just SO full of ***The Puppy Wizard can't
abuse you enough...

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> (voice and hand signal), and the will to perform them

flawlessly.

Like your dogs, Master Of Deception blankman?

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>  But a great obedience dog need not be a great problem solver.

RIGHT. Cause HE'S AFRAID HE'LL GET HURT if IT makes
a MISTAKE.

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>  And a great problem solver might not be able to retain
> and execute the various obedience commands.

CITES PLEASE? You're full of crap, Master Of Deception
blankman. You're a liar and a dog abuser and a FRAUD.

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>  Then there is the whole problem of separateing out
> what is inate (and thus can be bred for) vs. what is
> learned

THAT SO?

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> (and is therefore not very useful in breeding selection).

INDEED? That doesn't stand to reason, Master Of Deception
blankman.

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>  This is basically true of humans as well -

That so? Perhaps if we had Hitler we wouldn't have
the likes of you and your Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing
Punk Thug Cowards... See "Mr. Hitler's Dog."

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> so called "intelligence tests" often measure
> accomplishment, not ability.

That so? CITES PLEASE?

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> > Also, are there dog contest(s) that judge dogs when
> > they're within the last year of their expected lifespans?
> > Judging them on how well they aged.

Nice idea.

<snip bunk>

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> Diane Blackman

BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
 
 
 

Dog IQ Contest and/or Elder Dog Contest?

Post by The Puppy Wizar » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:39:11


HOWEDY jo,


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> And also....

Well, it just FIGGERS you'd be postin to this thread.
Throw abHOWET a bunch of BUNK that nobody will
care abHOWET EXXXAMINING for accuracy.

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> Function:

INDEED? You know all abHOWET workin dogs, eh jo?

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> The breed developed to man-trail by scent, such as the
> ***hound,

Ahhh, you mean lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's breed...

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> will be much better at it than, say, a breed developed as a
> lap dog.

You don't suppose the SIZE of the SENSE ORGAN
got sumpthin to do with it, jo?

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>  Which dog is more intelligent?

Let's talk abHOWET dog trainers who got to
jerk and ***dogs on pronged spiked pinch
***collars and lock dogs in boxes and try
to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin, jo?

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>   If you are rating man-trailing,

Ahh, you know all abHOWET that, eh jo?

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> the ***hound wins hands down.

INDEED?

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>   But within all ***hounds, some will be better
> than others.  Which dog is more intelligent?

Sorry jo, INTELLIGENCE got NUTHIN to do with SCENT.

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>  A Labrador Retriever may chase a small critter and try to
> dig it out of it's den, to no avail, but lots of fun and
destruction...
> but a terrier, bred for the job, enlarges the den slightly and
either
> chases the ritter out the back door or kills it and usually
drags it
> out.  Which dog is more intelligent?

You're full of CRAPOLA, jo. You're a BLOWHARD.

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>   The Lab retrieves all day, works as a scent detection
> dog, works as a guide dog, works as an assistance
> dog.... but as a dog trying to do terrier work, it's a bomb....

That ain't got NUTHIN to do with INTELLIGENCE of
the DOG jo, it's got to do with the LACK OF INTELLIGENCE
of the dog abusing BLOWHARD spHOWETIN off at the
keyboard abHOWET stuff you know nuthin abHOWET.

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> (Note that many terriers can and will do water
> retrieve work even field retrieves, and can do
> certain types of assistance dog work within it's
> size capacity... but isn' t big enough to be a guide dog,

That so, jo? You mean on accHOWENT of you'd
need a longer handle on his guide harness, jo?

You're a BLOWHARD and a FRAUD, jo.

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> and won't do many of the Lab's jobs as well
> as the Lab does them.)

Sez WHO, jo? DOG ABUSERS like your pal
lying frosty dahl???

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> It's easiest to rate "intelligence" against the
> standards for formal obedience trials...

That so, jo? That'd be sellin INTELLIGENCE short.

Wouldn't it, jo.

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> happens every weekend at those trials, but it's the
> individual dog and it's trainer (usually the owner),
>  not the breed, that is measured.

That so, jo?

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> Old Dogs:  At some dog shows, and almost always at the
> single-breed shows called "specialties", there is competition

. for "veterans", dogs 8 years old and older.... They are measured

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> against the breed standard, the same way the young dogs are...
> and one of those measures is gait...

INDEEDY. You better advise Master Of Deception
blankman of that, jo. She FORGOT all abHOWET that.

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> how the dog moves.

The Puppy Wizard enjoys watchin HOWE you
and your lying dog abusing Punk Thug Coward
MENTALLY ILL pals squirm... you can't post here
noMOORE, jo.

You've had your chance to come clean and admit
you don't know NUTHIN abHOWET dog training
and behavior, jo.

ADIOS, pepe.

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> I have seen a number of 14 and 15year-old dogs in
> these veterans classes

CITES PLEASE?

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> who would still be competitive in the regular classes
> of younger dogs, except that they move more stiffly,
> and maybe more slowly.

That so?

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>  They can also compete in veterans classes in obedience,
> where they are not asked to jump or retrieve.  In terriers,
> a good number of veterans (by calendar age) compete with
> the younger dogs with no breaks, in Earthdog tests.
> In agility, the AKC has one group of classes with lower
> jumps, aimed originally at the older dog.

INDEED.

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>  My dogs have worked as therapy dogs

You mean, they won't bite someWON sayin HULLO?

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> up to and past their 15th birthdays.

INDEEDY. You need an older dog cause it takes
you fif*** years to train a dog.

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> My present 11 yo terrier is more active than my
>  current 6 yo terrier, and learns new things faster
> than the 6 yo.... same breed,  different dogs.

That so, jo? The Puppy Wizard sez if you looked
at what she "learns" you'll find it's what you've taught
her by REPRESSION INTIMIDATION and AVOIDANCE.

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> Jo Wolf
> Martinez, Georgia

BWEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

You're full of CRAP, jo.

The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ )  >

 
 
 

Dog IQ Contest and/or Elder Dog Contest?

Post by The Puppy Wizar » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:53:33


HOWEDY Master Of Deception blankman,


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> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:05:43 -0500 Scott T. Jensen


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> >> But a great obedience dog need not be a great
> >> problem solver.  And a great problem solver
> >> might not be able to retain and execute the
> >> various obedience commands.

That's MALARKEY.

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> > I was thinking along the lines of a problem-solver.  Dogs
given problems
> > that were not revealed to their owners/trainers before the
contest to see
> > how they do.

> There have been various competitions that might compete
> one dog against another in problem solving. A typical example
> would be the TV program "That's my dog"  Naturally such contests
> are individual to the dogs involved. I've heard it is very

entertaining.

But you got not idea what you're talkin abHOWET cause you
never SAW IT yourself.

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> That show and others similiar would certainly qualify as
contests
>  of problem solving ability of individual dogs.

Despite that you've NEVER SEEN IT?

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> Not scientific but pertinent to your inquiry.

Like your answers???

BWEAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

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> When people ask about dog intelligence tests some of
> us tend to cringe

Oh, INDEEDY?:

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

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> because some folks misunderstand the significance.

INDEEDY?:

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

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> When Stanely Coren came out with his list of dogs
> people started flocking to those at the top of the list.

There's a lot of error in Stan's "intelligence" tests.

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>  HIs book "The Intelligence of Dogs" was widely popular
> and just as widely misread.

You mean, by lying dog abusing Punk Thug Coward
blowhards, like you and your pals, Master Of Deception
blankman?

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>  From what folks'd write here

You mean, your PALS like sindy *** mooreon an
lying frosty dahl and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn?

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>  it was apparent that they assumed a "smart" dog would be

easier.

INDEED?

 > Yikes! and HA!

Yikes? HA?

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> Top problems solvers are the kind that learn how to open
> the refrigerator, undo all the locks in the house, and push
> the chair to the kichen counter for easy access to the upper
> cabinets.

Oh...

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> NOT easy to live with.

Well Master Of Deception blankman, that's on accHOWENT
of you ain't got the intellect to HOWEtwit the cunning of the
domestic puppy dog. Takes MINUTES to train dogs to do
or not do WHATEVER WE ASK, so long as we ain't HURTIN
them.

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> Easy to live with is moderate problem solving,

Who are you tryin to FOOL, Master Of Deception blankman?

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> good memory,

"REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS" is NO ACCIDENT.
It's CAUSED BY ABUSING DOGS like HOWE you do,
Master Of Deception blankman.

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> preference for sticking with what is known to work

You mean HURTING dogs to train them, Master
Of Deception blankman?

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> and high desire to comply.

HOWETA FEAR FORCE PAIN and INTIMIDATION and ***.

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> Diane Blackman

Can you tell the TRUTH from a LIE?:

          > > > Jerome Bigge writes:
          > > > I do know that hitting, hurting
          > > > your dog will often make the
          > > > dog either aggressive or a fear
          > > > biter, neither of which we want to do.

And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:

          > > And neither does anyone else,
          > > Jerome.  No matter
          > > what Jerry Howe states.

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
33 Years Experience.

You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?

Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who
commented that his bed time calming technique was quite
similar?

          > > You're scary Marilyn.

          > > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
          > > individual.  I feel very sorry for her
          > > and her family.

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.

          > > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
          > > doubt, please provide a quote (an
          > > original quote, not from one of Jerry
          > > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
          > > shows a regular poster promoting or
          > > using an abusive form of training.

BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

          > > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What  does this mean?"

Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,
spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away.
The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him
and continue your normal behavior."

You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

  --Mike Dufort
    author of the zero selling book
    "Courteous Canines"

You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's
Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled
Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her
Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.

Oh, THANKS, sinofa***...


  "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
  something you twisted out of context,
  because you are full of bizarro manure."

           "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
           helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
           Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
           you to progress to striking them more
           sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
           expert trainer.

You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

        "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
        Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
        With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
        discoverer of ***ISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...


            "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
            things is something you twisted out of
            context, because you are full of bizarro
            manure."

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in
the chest, step on its toes, throw him down by his ears and
climb all over it like a***d ape growling into his throat
and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop it on a pronged spiked
pinch ***collar or pop him in the snout with the heel of
your palm.


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> > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > do with their dogs.
> > > Keep in mind that

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