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socialization of puppy

Post by Dlyk » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00



I've got a new 10 week old lab puppy.
She was out-going and friendly at the breeder's when I met her, but the
introduction to new surroundings made her very timid. She's now gotten
used to me, but new places (vet's, work place) and new people make her
tuck her tail between her legs and hide behind me.

I know that early socialization is important, but she hasn't had all of
her shots yet so I don't want to take her anywhere too public.
Unfortunately, I'm new in this town myself and I don't know anyone to
bring over.

I have two questions:
1) Should I be worried yet at this young age?
2) Any suggestions on how I might get her used to people at this stage?

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Karen
Karen

Some people wouldn't recognize subtlety if it hit them on the head.

 
 
 

socialization of puppy

Post by DobeF » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Karen,
Try taking her places where you wouldn't expect to find other dogs.  Carry
her in your arms, and stand outside a shopping center, grocery,  etc.  It
probably would be safe to let her on the ground around such places.  (Just
be sure to bring a plastic bag as a pooper scooper!!!)  Pretend you're
waiting for your mother or sister or husband.   People are usually ready
to ooh and aaah over a puppy!  Bring some puppy treats and invite them to
feed and pet the puppy.  See if you can locate a puppy kindergarten class.
 They are wonderful for socialization!

 
 
 

socialization of puppy

Post by Diane Blackm » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Yes yes yes yes yes.  And to follow-up a bit about attitude - its a normal
reaction for the human to want to comfort the puppy who is timid.  Don't
people pet their dog to tell her how "good" she is, and how they like what
she is doing?  So what message are they sending when they pet and say "its
ok puppy. there's nothing to be afaid of"  Puppy doesn't speak english,
puppy is judging the situation by the actions of its owner.  And petting
owner is saying "good puppy for acting fearful, good dog.  Not the message
intended to be sent, right?

Of course there is a difference between force (dragging the struggling
puppy around)  and quiet confident persistence on your part.

To repeat what Dogman said (not like he needs MY backup) Keep a happy
confident tone in your voice, and posture in your body.

If you have to just stand still then just stand still, - cluck and squeak
to encourage the puppy to explore.  Send every signal that you can that
you are happy and unafraid.  That is in contrast (not saying you do, just
want to be sure I'm not misunderstood) to yanking the puppy forward and in
a frustrated tone saying "Here," "look dummy meet this person!" :-)  Got
the idea?  But try to avoid soothing the puppy by stroking her.  If she is
afraid just wait for a moment then take a tiny step toward the object of
her fear, leaving her behind, probably she will move toward you, but if
not just wait, watch and when she is ready take another step.  Think a lot
about what message your voice and body language conveys.

--
Diane Blackman
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: No.  The puppy is only 10 weeks old, eh? Socialization is absolutely
: necessary, but there is GOOD socialization and then there is BAD
: socialization. It's entirely possible to thoroughly RUIN some puppies
: forever by IMPROPERLY socializing them.

: The general idea is to expose your puppy to as many of the sights,
: smells, sounds, and goings-on of life as you can WITHOUT having the
: puppy experience any BAD situations.

: The puppy is counting on YOU for SECURITY and PROTECTION during this
: very difficult time, so it's your job to make sure that nothing BAD
: ever happens to her during this very CRITICAL time (7-24 weeks).

: The puppy also can pick up on YOUR own attitude to the things she is
: experiencing.  If you are FEARFUL and NERVOUS, she may just pick up on
: that and become more fearful and nervous herself.  ALWAYS do these
: things in a CALM, playful, and confident manner.

: If you're a fearful and neurotic basket case, there is a VERY good
: chance that your puppy will grow up to be a fearful and neurotic
: basket case, too!

 
 
 

socialization of puppy

Post by Dogm » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00




Quote:
>I've got a new 10 week old lab puppy.
>She was out-going and friendly at the breeder's when I met her, but the
>introduction to new surroundings made her very timid. She's now gotten
>used to me, but new places (vet's, work place) and new people make her
>tuck her tail between her legs and hide behind me.

>I know that early socialization is important, but she hasn't had all of
>her shots yet so I don't want to take her anywhere too public.
>Unfortunately, I'm new in this town myself and I don't know anyone to
>bring over.

>I have two questions:
>1) Should I be worried yet at this young age?

No.  The puppy is only 10 weeks old, eh? Socialization is absolutely
necessary, but there is GOOD socialization and then there is BAD
socialization. It's entirely possible to thoroughly RUIN some puppies
forever by IMPROPERLY socializing them.

The general idea is to expose your puppy to as many of the sights,
smells, sounds, and goings-on of life as you can WITHOUT having the
puppy experience any BAD situations.

The puppy is counting on YOU for SECURITY and PROTECTION during this
very difficult time, so it's your job to make sure that nothing BAD
ever happens to her during this very CRITICAL time (7-24 weeks).

The puppy also can pick up on YOUR own attitude to the things she is
experiencing.  If you are FEARFUL and NERVOUS, she may just pick up on
that and become more fearful and nervous herself.  ALWAYS do these
things in a CALM, playful, and confident manner.

If you're a fearful and neurotic basket case, there is a VERY good
chance that your puppy will grow up to be a fearful and neurotic
basket case, too!

Quote:
>2) Any suggestions on how I might get her used to people at this stage?

Yes, get out there and have her meet a LOT of different people (men,
women, CHILDREN, blacks, whites, tall, short, etc.).

Take her to lots of different places, introduce her to the stairs, the
car, the ba***t, the homes of friends, relatives, and neighbors
(with no dogs, preferably, but if you are absolutely certain the dogs
are healthy, don't even worry about their dogs either), to CHILDREN,
to the leash (let her drag it around the house and yard, to the sounds
of the vacuum sweeper (preferably from another room), the washing
machine, etc., etc., etc.

Take her to the entrance of a mall somewhere (or a busy store), where
there is LOTS of pedestrian traffic and just sit there with your puppy
on a leash.  Just keep her away from any strange dogs (i.e., dogs
whose health is unknown), especially other dog feces and urine.

Allow people to pet her, but don't be afraid to stop someone from
playing with her too roughly, etc.  Give the strangers treats to give
to your puppy.  Puppies are like PEOPLE MAGNETS, so you shouldn't have
any problems attracting lots of volunteers.

It's more important to properly socialize your puppy during this very
CRITICAL time than it is to isolate it at home in fear of it catching
some disease.  This is very special time and it just cannot be lost!

You just have to use your head and stay away from the WRONG things,
like strange dogs, feces, urine, etc.

After 16 weeks, you can continue her socialization to other dogs (she
already had 7 weeks of socialization to her littermates and mom,
etc.), cats, etc.  

Good luck with your new Lab puppy!

PS: You should also consider getting the book, "The Art of Raising a
Puppy," by the Monks of New Skete.

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socialization of puppy

Post by Terr » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> Yes yes yes yes yes.  And to follow-up a bit about attitude - its a normal
> reaction for the human to want to comfort the puppy who is timid.  Don't
> people pet their dog to tell her how "good" she is, and how they like what
> she is doing?  

Got to chime in here, the entrance to the mall has proved to be the
absolute most wonderful place to socialize my GSD pups! Just stand
or sit there, with a pup on a leash, and you'll get soooo many
people stopping by to pet and love up your pup! You must be patient,
you need to observe closely how stangers are treating your pup, but
at the same time, if it's a breed they've ever loved, they've got a
story to go with it! It's your chance to not only socialize your
pup, but to let folks know where/how/when/why/ you picked THIS
particular pup, and why you picked THAT particular breeder!
Explain why you are doing this. The message that YOU, the owner shows,
is so important! If you talk to 100  people and only 1 comes away
with what to look for in a breeder or dog behavior, then you've
won a great prize!!
Confession time:
Since the only Malls in my area harbor pet shops, I also take the
opportunity to tell them why they should NOT buy a dog from the
inside petstore!'
So far, I dont think *THEY* have figured out that Im NOT advocating
their shop!  
Terri
 
 
 

socialization of puppy

Post by The Carroll » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00


I'd just keep taking her to the same places she's been--the vet, work, etc.
 Nothing too new for her.  Let her get used to that.  Slowly work your way
up, let her learn that new places and people aren't all that bad as she
gets used to it.

Emily

 
 
 

socialization of puppy

Post by Melissa Bru » Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> Karen,
> Try taking her places where you wouldn't expect to find other dogs.  Carry
> her in your arms, and stand outside a shopping center, grocery,  etc.  It
> probably would be safe to let her on the ground around such places.

[snip]

Sorry, I wouldn't do this (the putting the puppy on the ground part);
the Parvo virus can live in dirt for 6 months or more.  I carried my
Bullmastiff pup everywhere until he had all his shots 16 weeks. The
"lack of socialization" doesn't seem to have hurt him at all.  We
started socializing him heavily after 16 weeks (puppy classes, car
rides, dog park every weekend, weekly trips to the video store, etc.)
He's now 10 months and *loves* people and other dogs.  "We" (Jax and I
:) were talking with a couple of police officers at the car wash a
couple of weeks ago and they both commented on how calm and
well-behaved he was in that hectic, noisy, environment.

My 2 cents,
Melissa (Jax's Mom)

 
 
 

socialization of puppy

Post by Melissa Bru » Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> Karen,
> Try taking her places where you wouldn't expect to find other dogs.  Carry
> her in your arms, and stand outside a shopping center, grocery,  etc.  It
> probably would be safe to let her on the ground around such places.

[snip]

Sorry, I wouldn't do this (the putting the puppy on the ground part);
the Parvo virus can live in dirt for 6 months or more.  I carried my
Bullmastiff pup everywhere until he had all his shots 16 weeks. The
"lack of socialization" doesn't seem to have hurt him at all.  We
started socializing him heavily after 16 weeks (puppy classes, car
rides, dog park every weekend, weekly trips to the video store, etc.)
He's now 10 months and *loves* people and other dogs.  "We" (Jax and I
:) were talking with a couple of police officers at the car wash a
couple of weeks ago and they both commented on how calm and
well-behaved he was in that hectic, noisy, environment.

My 2 cents,
Melissa (Jax's Mom)

 
 
 

socialization of puppy

Post by Sudhir B Nay » Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:00:00


I can only tell you what we did.

Quote:
>We started socializing the pup right away at 7 weeks.  One person at a

time first and then slowly more.  Do not let the person approach the dog.
Let the dog go to the person and then praise the dog.  It helps if the
person is a "dog person" and calls to the dog in a firm tone.  After a
while the dog will try make friends with everyone.
Quote:
>After the second set of shots we started with other dogs.  Only dogs

that were owned by friends or relatives that have been properly trained and
vetted.  This will really help the biting.  Playing with other dogs
really has curtailed his chewing on people.  They teach each other how
hard to bite.
Quote:
>Start training your dog.  That can really helped his confidence.  They

are really happy when they are doing stuff.  So have other people around
when you train and have then praise him too.

: I've got a new 10 week old lab puppy.
: She was out-going and friendly at the breeder's when I met her, but the
: introduction to new surroundings made her very timid. She's now gotten
: used to me, but new places (vet's, work place) and new people make her
: tuck her tail between her legs and hide behind me.

: I know that early socialization is important, but she hasn't had all of
: her shots yet so I don't want to take her anywhere too public.
: Unfortunately, I'm new in this town myself and I don't know anyone to
: bring over.

: I have two questions:
: 1) Should I be worried yet at this young age?
: 2) Any suggestions on how I might get her used to people at this stage?

: Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Karen
: Karen

: Some people wouldn't recognize subtlety if it hit them on the head.

--

Sudhir Nayak
Department of Biology
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6018


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