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Post by minnief.. » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00



What, only people in your select group are allowed to help those that need
it?!

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>DEAR RESCUE CONTACT,
>  I am putting together a list of every AKC club that has a rescue
> program and their pertinent information. If your club has a rescue
>program please  complete the enclosed form and return it to the
>above address. As usual I am working against a
>time limit with the printers so please return it ASAP.
>A couple of clubs have expressed concern for how this info will be
>used. Please know that there are no sinister motives involved. My
>wife and I have been involved in rescue since ' 74. My intentions are
>to make this info avaliable to every vet, kennel, animal shelter,
>library, and petshop in the country. And best of all, after it is
>compiled all the update info will be made avaliable to any who needs
>it by e-mail.  
>Sincere thanks,
>David Smith

{as a person active in breed rescue i found this header very alarming.
{breed club rescue programs have lists of their affiliates. we are
{compiling an email directory for the two breeds we are primarily
{involved with and are collecting our data from the breed specific-lists
{and the breed club lists.
{there are sites of rescue groups and it is often hard to find someone
{near you representing the breed you are interested in and it would be
{nice if some retired librarian would do a master listing but people come
{and go in rescue. it can be very frustrating.
{what do you other breed rescue people think of this fellow's request? am
{i overreacting????

Yes, I think you are overreacting.  I do not understand why people who
profess to be dedicated to placing animals are so suspicious and
condemning, and try to do everything in their power to not place them.  I
know that there are people out there who abuse animals - I now own two
that were beaten by previous owners.  It's sad, and it's sick.  But I when
I was looking, everyone I came across was so suspicious of everything and
everyone, that I eventually stayed away from rescue groups and shelters.
Most of them won't consider adopting or placing outside of their
geographic area.  Shouldn't their objective be to find a good home for the
pet, no matter where it is?  Oh, no.  They assume that everyone is a
psychopath just waiting to get their hands on another animal (I personally
don't think the monsters would go to a shelter, they'd probably get them
from private sources - it's easier).  They're so suspicious of people
wanting to help that they put these restrictions there so that they can
come and inspect your house.  I was extremely insulted by this.  Why the
hell is it their business if I didn't do my dusting, or my daughter left
her toys laying around?!  And what in the world does this have to do with
how a pet will be treated?!  
Not everyone is cruel enough to hurt an animal.  In fact, I'd be willing
to bet that the statistics would show it to be a low percentage,
comparatively.
If I had the room, and could start a sanctuary-type place for unwanted
animals, I'd do it in a minute.  AND MY OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO FIND EACH
ANIMAL A HAPPY HOME.  PERIOD.  Not to go off on some kind of power trip,
not to play judge and jury just because I'd be in a position where I might
be able to get away with it.  At the expense of the animals, I might add.

 
 
 

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Post by alowand.. » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>  AND MY OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO FIND EACH
>ANIMAL A HAPPY HOME.  PERIOD.  Not to go off on some kind of power trip,
>not to play judge and jury just because I'd be in a position where I
might
>be able to get away with it.  At the expense of the animals, I might add.

Now you are the one who is over-reacting. You should see my house! We're
not talking dust bunnies, here; we're talking dust DINOSAURS. The yard
looks like a moonscape, just like one expects with 8 coonhounds.
   Our objectives are the same as yours - to find each animal a happy
home, period. Unfortunately, we (and shelter workers) are exposed to the
worst of the dog owners. The most common reasons I have heard for people
giving up coonhounds are:
Moving & can't take dog
escapes
digs
barks too much.
So, for those reasons, I will not adopt to people that rent (likely to
move), unless they can prove to me that they are likely to go to the
effort to find a place to live where they can have the dog; they must have
a good, 6-foot fence; they must not have landscaping they care about; and
they must be prepared to deal with excessive barking. I have other
criteria, too, but the explanations would take too long.
   If you do get into rescue, you will find out quickly why we have the
rules. When I first got in, I adopted one to a family with near neighbors,
and a nicely landscaped yard with a three-foot fence. I told them, "You
mustn't leave the dog in the yard alone, or she will dig/bark/jump the
fence." In the ensuing 3 months I got 2 calls from people who had picked
the dog up (she was wearing tags with my phone number), and I was
considering demanding she give the dog back, when she called and asked me
to take her back. When I asked why, she said, "She barks and annoys the
neighbors, she jumps the fence all the time, she's digging up the
landscaping." Hence my first rules. In my early days I also had two hounds
that were less than 2 years old and had been in five homes apiece.
   I will make exceptions to my stringent rules if I can see proof that
the person will go to the necessary effort. But that hardly ever happens.
   When I do a home inspection, I'm not looking for world-class
cleanliness. I'm looking for two things, really; to see if there is really
a fence that will keep a coonhound in, and to see how the family
interacts. If the kids are out of control, the dog will be, too. In fact,
to me, world-class cleanliness would be a minus, as it might mean the dog
would not be allowed inside. Get my drift?
   Plus, I don't know how long you've been on the list, but this "free
dogs" guy wants to put together a list that he will then SELL to people,
when the information is available elsewhere for free. Rude!
see ya,
Ruth the coonergal

 
 
 

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Post by Rae Sto » Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Why all the controversy?  The book Mr. Smith is attempting to put
together was published a long time ago, distributed nationwide, and is
updated regularly. The info is disseminated via the NET, Prodigy, email,
telephone, etc.  Some of you may have seen news articles on us - we've
been written up in all the major dog and cat mags, as well as local
newspapers, rescue newsletters, etc.   Some of you have probably also
seen the following note in this newsgroup, or on our webpage......

"For referral to an adoption/rescue group in your area please

breed(s), your state and 3-digit telephone area code NOT
your 5-digit postal zip code (this makes it much easier to
locate your nearest contacts).

 PROJECT BREED RESCUE AND ADOPTION DIRECTORY INFORMATION

     Project BREED (Breed Rescue Efforts & Education) was
first published in 1989 and now consists of 3 volumes (2
published, the third soon to be) with over 6000 breed and
species specific rescue and adoption contacts all over the
U.S. (as well as Canada and the UK). Besides listings for
dog rescue we are compiling listings for cats, horses,
ferrets, rabbits, birds, pot belly pigs, raptors, bats and
others as we become aware of them.
   More than a mere list of names and addresses the
directories provide no nonsense breed descriptions, health
care advice, breed characteristics, networking for foster
homes, lost or stolen pets and much more. Author/Trainer,
Carol Lea Benjamin wrote the foreword for Vol. II, echoing
the need for anyone encountering homeless pets to have a
copy - vets, boarding kennels, grooming shops, shelters,
humane organizations, obedience and breed clubs, rescue
volunteers, obedience schools, et al.  Those of us involved
in rescue work know that indiscriminate breeding,
overpopulation and mass euthanasia are problems that will
not simply go away. We must all do our part by taking  a
stand for rescue and pet adoption and being a part of the
solution.
     For information on Project BREED please send a long
(#10) self addressed, stamped envelope to:
               Project BREED
               5 Evergreen Ave
               Key West, FL  33040
     Project BREED is a grass-roots, non-profit organization
and there is no charge for referrals, or for listing your
rescue group in the directory.  We rely on donations and
volunteers to keep our work alive.  You can support the
effort by ordering and using the directories, or if you
prefer, send a donation to Project BREED,Inc. 5103 Chevy
Chase Parkway NW, Washington D.C. 20008-2020.
Thanks,
Rae Stone,Project BREED Area Coordinator
Prodigy Service MemRep - Adoption &


 
 
 

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Post by Rae Sto » Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:00:00


PS:  Project BREED is not the only directory of its kind. While we
specialize in rescue organizations and info about the varous breeds/
species we cover,  another  book,  written by Susan Buylanda, is   "The
Canine Source Book", published in 1994 by D***Publishing, Inc.  It
lists breed clubs, activity clubs, breed publications, associations,
registry organizations, rescue clubs, search and rescue units, veternary
medicine colleges, dog show services, health and safety organizations
(names, address and phone numbers) and a dozen other dog related
subjects/organizatons.  An updated edition is due out in 1997.
   Yet another,  "Dogs and The Law", written by AnMarie Barrie, published
by T.F.H. Publications, Inc., devotes an entire chapter to listing all
assistance dog (guide dogs, signal dogs, service dogs, therapy dogs,
specialty dogs) organizations in the country.
  And I'm sure there are many others......

 
 
 

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Post by Nancy E. Holme » Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:00:00


High commendations to Rae Stone for her pioneering work in putting
together the Project Breed Books - they make great gifts for vet
offices and animal shelters :-)
Another resource for rescue info and national breed club contacts is
found in the Nov issue of the AKC Gazette, Dog World and Dog Fancy also
publish the info about the same time. The Gazette's is a lovely pullout
sheet - I was very pleased when they followed my suggestion on how to
arrange that so it was the most useful tool possible and THANK YOU
Pedigree for sponsoring the pullout!
Oh and the info is posted at the AKC page too.
The 'new' concept that the original poster stated as a goal (to make a
consolidated rescue list) seems to me to just be a little late with a
great idea  - lots of areas have a local resource list too that some
group or another distributes to everyone and anyone that wants it.
The more folks know about rescue - the more good homes we'll find!
Nancy