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Help 1 sick/1 dead dog

Post by Liselott » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00



Please somebody, I need some advise.
My nephew lives 3 houses down the street from me. We live in a suburb of
a Portland, Or.
He has a very large piece of property where his 2 dogs spends (spend)
most of their time.
10 days ago his Golden Lab. 12 yr. old became sick. He spiked a fever
of 106 and was lying around, would not get up except to drink a little
water, no bowel problems. The dog was taken to the vet, who did every
test in the book and could not find anything wrong. (this is a normally
very healthy dog) so the dog was send home with some medicine for the
fever. 2 days later dog develops a cough, so he goes back to the vet,
who told my nephew that it has bronchitis and he is given antibiotics.
He seems to get better and then worse again in several cycles. Just
lying around, not wanting to get up. The vet also thought that maybe the
dog had hurt his back. Anyway, after 10 day's yesterday, the dog was
lying outside in the grass, and some guests arrived and came and told my
nephew that his dog was DEAD in the grass outside. He runs out gets the
dog and carry him to the side of the house, at which time his wife cries
to him that their other dog, 2 yr. healthy rot mix is having the same
symptoms and the Golden Lab had 10 days earlier, they put a blanket on
the dead one and hurry to the vet with the Rot. At the vet they
determined the the dog had a high temperature also and small seizures,
by the way so did the Lab. They did not know what was the reason, and
said they had to treat it as 2 different things. These dog are never
sick!!! They are completely vaccinated!!!.
I have my own 2 dogs that I am VERY (READ VERY) attached to. I am scared
about this, it takes very healthy dog out quick!!!
I asked about sluggbait and such things, but they have a 3 yr. old and a
1 yr. old and do not have harmful stuff lying around.
What does this sound like. The dog got a fever, would not get up,
coughed, got better, then relapsed, got better and died and now the
other dog has started with the same symptoms. they are planning on
taking the Rot to another Vet by the way for more checking.
Should I worry about my dogs, should I get them vaccinated before their
normal boosters?
Thanks
Lise
 
 
 

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Post by Doge » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Was a heartworm test run?  The best thing would be to get a post mortem done
on the dog that died, if its not too late.

Dogen

Quote:

> Please somebody, I need some advise.
> My nephew lives 3 houses down the street from me. We live in a suburb of
> a Portland, Or.
> He has a very large piece of property where his 2 dogs spends (spend)
> most of their time.
> 10 days ago his Golden Lab. 12 yr. old became sick. He spiked a fever
> of 106 and was lying around, would not get up except to drink a little
> water, no bowel problems. The dog was taken to the vet, who did every
> test in the book and could not find anything wrong. (this is a normally
> very healthy dog) so the dog was send home with some medicine for the
> fever. 2 days later dog develops a cough, so he goes back to the vet,
> who told my nephew that it has bronchitis and he is given antibiotics.
> He seems to get better and then worse again in several cycles. Just
> lying around, not wanting to get up. The vet also thought that maybe the
> dog had hurt his back. Anyway, after 10 day's yesterday, the dog was
> lying outside in the grass, and some guests arrived and came and told my
> nephew that his dog was DEAD in the grass outside. He runs out gets the
> dog and carry him to the side of the house, at which time his wife cries
> to him that their other dog, 2 yr. healthy rot mix is having the same
> symptoms and the Golden Lab had 10 days earlier, they put a blanket on
> the dead one and hurry to the vet with the Rot. At the vet they
> determined the the dog had a high temperature also and small seizures,
> by the way so did the Lab. They did not know what was the reason, and
> said they had to treat it as 2 different things. These dog are never
> sick!!! They are completely vaccinated!!!.
> I have my own 2 dogs that I am VERY (READ VERY) attached to. I am scared
> about this, it takes very healthy dog out quick!!!
> I asked about sluggbait and such things, but they have a 3 yr. old and a
> 1 yr. old and do not have harmful stuff lying around.
> What does this sound like. The dog got a fever, would not get up,
> coughed, got better, then relapsed, got better and died and now the
> other dog has started with the same symptoms. they are planning on
> taking the Rot to another Vet by the way for more checking.
> Should I worry about my dogs, should I get them vaccinated before their
> normal boosters?
> Thanks
> Lise

 
 
 

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Post by shootingstar.. » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00


 i would dig this other  dog up and do a post mortem if the  other vet
cannot figure out what is wrong.     two dogs that seem to have the same
thing means something is seriously wrong. were they given any "shots"
recently  together---at the vets?  just a thought other then  someone
poisoning ( is there anyones car leaking antifreeze) or a virus ---- and
it would have to be a deadly one  (virus).  it almost sounds like a
meningitis type problem.   good luck and let us know.  i am not a vet
and no one can diagnosis this one  without testing--- but i can
understand  your concern.  
 
 
 

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Post by Tin » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Do they run loose? could they have been exposed to poison? kennel cough?
your vet (a new vet may be the only answer )
I hope all turns out ok. keep us posted.
someone else here or in vet ng may be more help.

Tina/mookeysmom
 "new photos added to photo album & slide show":
http://community.webshots.com/album/1423111eQdinNWDrt
 dont 4get to sign my guestbook :o)  

 
 
 

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Post by Elaine Gallan » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Sounds like poison. The first dog was old, and probably could not handle the
***.


Quote:
> Was a heartworm test run?  The best thing would be to get a post mortem
done
> on the dog that died, if its not too late.

> Dogen


> > Please somebody, I need some advise.
> > My nephew lives 3 houses down the street from me. We live in a suburb of
> > a Portland, Or.
> > He has a very large piece of property where his 2 dogs spends (spend)
> > most of their time.
> > 10 days ago his Golden Lab. 12 yr. old became sick. He spiked a fever
> > of 106 and was lying around, would not get up except to drink a little
> > water, no bowel problems. The dog was taken to the vet, who did every
> > test in the book and could not find anything wrong. (this is a normally
> > very healthy dog) so the dog was send home with some medicine for the
> > fever. 2 days later dog develops a cough, so he goes back to the vet,
> > who told my nephew that it has bronchitis and he is given antibiotics.
> > He seems to get better and then worse again in several cycles. Just
> > lying around, not wanting to get up. The vet also thought that maybe the
> > dog had hurt his back. Anyway, after 10 day's yesterday, the dog was
> > lying outside in the grass, and some guests arrived and came and told my
> > nephew that his dog was DEAD in the grass outside. He runs out gets the
> > dog and carry him to the side of the house, at which time his wife cries
> > to him that their other dog, 2 yr. healthy rot mix is having the same
> > symptoms and the Golden Lab had 10 days earlier, they put a blanket on
> > the dead one and hurry to the vet with the Rot. At the vet they
> > determined the the dog had a high temperature also and small seizures,
> > by the way so did the Lab. They did not know what was the reason, and
> > said they had to treat it as 2 different things. These dog are never
> > sick!!! They are completely vaccinated!!!.
> > I have my own 2 dogs that I am VERY (READ VERY) attached to. I am scared
> > about this, it takes very healthy dog out quick!!!
> > I asked about sluggbait and such things, but they have a 3 yr. old and a
> > 1 yr. old and do not have harmful stuff lying around.
> > What does this sound like. The dog got a fever, would not get up,
> > coughed, got better, then relapsed, got better and died and now the
> > other dog has started with the same symptoms. they are planning on
> > taking the Rot to another Vet by the way for more checking.
> > Should I worry about my dogs, should I get them vaccinated before their
> > normal boosters?
> > Thanks
> > Lise

 
 
 

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Post by Liselott » Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Thank you for your replies, the rott is still living, she had the very
high temp, and was packed in ice at the vets. She seems better, but that
is how it was with the first one. We are hoping she will kick this ?
Unfortunately, my nephew buried the dog,  he couldn't not deal with the
autopsy. If the second dog dies, he will have to deal with it and get ti
done. The dogs did not run around on others properties, they were on a
huge 1 1/2 wooded acre in a busy suburb her in Portland. I think that
poison could definitely be the problem, I don't think antifreeze, but
maybe rat or slug poison?   the medical tests run on the lab was all
negative, including the *** tests. They did mention that the heart was
a little enlarged, but the dog was 13 yr. old, although you would not
have known it from his looks or behavior. The dog was/acted in perfect
health, played, caught balls etc. up to he got sick 10 days ago.
I am so worried about my dogs, and I am thinking about getting their
vaccinations early this year.
No the  affected dogs did not have any vaccinations done recently.
Also I agree that is very lunlikely that the 2 cases are unrelated!!!!!!!
I will keep you posted about the outcome of this story, hopefully it
will be a good one.
Thanks again I really needed to hear something.
Liselotte  
Quote:

> Do they run loose? could they have been exposed to poison? kennel cough?
> your vet (a new vet may be the only answer )
> I hope all turns out ok. keep us posted.
> someone else here or in vet ng may be more help.

> Tina/mookeysmom
>  "new photos added to photo album & slide show":
> http://www.moonsgarden.com/
>  dont 4get to sign my guestbook :o)

 
 
 

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Post by Sue E » Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:00:00


The only thing is the autopsy may help to save the other dog.  It may be
hard, but it maybe the other dogs chance of survival.

Sue  E.


Quote:
> Thank you for your replies, the rott is still living, she had the very

 
 
 

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Post by Liselott » Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:00:00


You are so right, and if I can get him to dig the dog up, I will, after
all, I have my own two dogs to worry about.
Thank you
Liselotte
Quote:

> The only thing is the autopsy may help to save the other dog.  It may be
> hard, but it maybe the other dogs chance of survival.

> Sue  E.



> > Thank you for your replies, the rott is still living, she had the very

 
 
 

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Post by Sue E » Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:00:00


That's true about your dogs.  If you don't know what killed the other dog,
how can you protect your dogs against it.  I'm sure there are some things
you can do, but it helps to know what it was, so you can be more specific in
taking care of your dogs too.

--

--
Sue E. & Desi The Bionic Doggie


Quote:
> You are so right, and if I can get him to dig the dog up, I will, after
> all, I have my own two dogs to worry about.
> Thank you
> Liselotte


> > The only thing is the autopsy may help to save the other dog.  It may be
> > hard, but it maybe the other dogs chance of survival.

> > Sue  E.



> > > Thank you for your replies, the rott is still living, she had the very

 
 
 

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Post by Elaine Gallan » Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Dogs with the cultural stigma of being "bad"- like Rotts, Dobermanns or Pit
Bulls are often the targets of unprovoked attacks.

I heard of a Staffie who was poisoned just because the others at the condo
didn't like the owner.


Quote:
> Thank you for your replies, the rott is still living, she had the very
> high temp, and was packed in ice at the vets. She seems better, but that
> is how it was with the first one. We are hoping she will kick this ?
> Unfortunately, my nephew buried the dog,  he couldn't not deal with the
> autopsy. If the second dog dies, he will have to deal with it and get ti
> done. The dogs did not run around on others properties, they were on a
> huge 1 1/2 wooded acre in a busy suburb her in Portland. I think that
> poison could definitely be the problem, I don't think antifreeze, but
> maybe rat or slug poison?   the medical tests run on the lab was all
> negative, including the *** tests. They did mention that the heart was
> a little enlarged, but the dog was 13 yr. old, although you would not
> have known it from his looks or behavior. The dog was/acted in perfect
> health, played, caught balls etc. up to he got sick 10 days ago.
> I am so worried about my dogs, and I am thinking about getting their
> vaccinations early this year.
> No the  affected dogs did not have any vaccinations done recently.
> Also I agree that is very lunlikely that the 2 cases are unrelated!!!!!!!
> I will keep you posted about the outcome of this story, hopefully it
> will be a good one.
> Thanks again I really needed to hear something.
> Liselotte


> > Do they run loose? could they have been exposed to poison? kennel cough?
> > your vet (a new vet may be the only answer )
> > I hope all turns out ok. keep us posted.
> > someone else here or in vet ng may be more help.

> > Tina/mookeysmom
> >  "new photos added to photo album & slide show":
> > http://www.moonsgarden.com/
> >  dont 4get to sign my guestbook :o)

 
 
 

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Post by Liselott » Tue, 29 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Right and I have reluctantly thought about it. The dogs involved are a
Lab and a rott mix, I dont think that Tinkerbell looks like a rott
actually, but she is big. Now my dogs are one purebred rott and a
sheppard mix. The sheppard (Daisi) is a real cute dog, with big ears
that stands up, exept for the tip of hte left one, not enugh cartilage
in it :-)
My rott (Basse) is such a sweet dog. In fact he has 6-7 stuffed animals
that he sleeps with and carry around with him. He loves babies and
childen, very protective of them, but I never leave my dogs alone with
children (or people that I dont know very well) because you can never be
100% sure, and that 1 or 2 % is enough when you are talking about a big,
powerful dog. Also I never let my dogs out in the others yards, I have a
big enough property for them to get exercised here and not bother my
neighbors. Having said all this, I know that there are people with a
"set" opionin about rotts and to be carefull.
OH well...:-(

Thanks for reminding me
Liselotte

Quote:

> Dogs with the cultural stigma of being "bad"- like Rotts, Dobermanns or Pit
> Bulls are often the targets of unprovoked attacks.

> I heard of a Staffie who was poisoned just because the others at the condo
> didn't like the owner.

 
 
 

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Post by Nell.. » Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:21:41


On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:31:30 GMT, Liselotte
 I think that

Quote:
>poison could definitely be the problem, I don't think antifreeze, but
>maybe rat or slug poison?   the medical tests run on the lab was all
>negative, including the *** tests. They did mention that the heart was
>a little enlarged, but the dog was 13 yr. old, although you would not
>have known it from his looks or behavior. The dog was/acted in perfect
>health, played, caught balls etc. up to he got sick 10 days ago.
>I am so worried about my dogs, and I am thinking about getting their
>vaccinations early this year.
>No the  affected dogs did not have any vaccinations done recently.
>Also I agree that is very lunlikely that the 2 cases are unrelated!!!!!!!
>I will keep you posted about the outcome of this story, hopefully it
>will be a good one.
>Thanks again I really needed to hear something.
>Liselotte  

It sounds like either poison or some type of
severe infection (the 106 fever).   Did the vet
consider encephalitis?-  sometimes seizures are
caused by brain enlargement due to infection.  It
seems like, given its high temperature, the dog
should be getting high doses of antibiotics and
possibly steroids.  The steroids would bring down
any inflamation of the central nervous system.
They aren't great for the dog but you'd start
cutting down on them as soon as the dog was
better.

In some ways, the fact that the older dog got sick
first suggests some sort of infection-- he was
probably less vigorous and less able to fight off
whatever it is.  If they found poison at the same
time, the younger dog would probably react first
(faster metabolism).  Of course, it may be that
the older dog just found it first.

Sending you good thoughts... Nell

 
 
 

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Post by Nell.. » Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:30:14


On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:55:09 -0000, "Sue E."

Quote:

>The only thing is the autopsy may help to save the other dog.  It may be
>hard, but it maybe the other dogs chance of survival.

>Sue  E.

I agree... the idea of digging up a beloved dog
who's died is horrible but it could save the other
animal's life.

 Maybe, after the autopsy the dogs remains could
be cremated.  The owner and his friends could
scatter the ashes in a respectful manner so that
it didn't feel like the dog had been reduced to
the level of science experiment.