> >Should have asked something controversial......would have gotten a better
> Or you just ask a second time. Sometimes things get through, sometimes they
> don't. Sometimes people see the post, sometimes they don't.
> >> I wanted to thank all of you for the training advice. I found a personal
> >> trainer, we are starting in 2 weeks. Baby is going to school :-). Very
> >> good trainer though! We are getting work books, and a ton of other stuff.
> >> She isn't as expensive as I thought, $40 for 2 hours, usually every 2 or 3
> >> weeks. She has used an Ecollar before but would prefer to start with out
> >> one. She has competed in Obedience, and Agility.
> >> Question is, long:
> >> After I was explained to what an AlphaRoll was it made me think. So once
> >> curiosity got the best of me (almost a week), I tried to roll buster over.
> >> Not is an aggressive way, just with love, almost like I wanted to give him
> >> love on his tummy (in other words, nothing like an alpha-roll). He really
> >> didn't like the idea. I used love tactics really quickly to see if it was a
> >> situation where he was just scared and needed a little reassurance, again
> >> no luck.
> >> He does however offer it to us. He will roll over on his back when we are
> >> petting him some times..... now that I am getting paranoid, I can't remember
> >> the last time, but it was probably some time over the weekend or late last
> >> week.
> >> So, I am wondering if this is any type of sign that I need to be aware of.
> >> My worst fear is that, this was some baby-alpa-roll, or a trust sign, and we
> >> failed..
> From what you've written, you've hardly failed. What you're seeing here is the
> resistance to being 'physically forced' over into a *** position. Any
> normal dog is going to do that. The fact that he does it willingly on his own
> for you at times shows that he does trust you. And that really is what
> obedience and being 'Alpha' is all about - trust.
> Rather than trying to force him on his back, it's better to teach him that good
> things happen when he does lie on his back (or in any other ***
> position). One way to do this it to teach him to roll over.
> Another thing which the instructor should go over with you is on 'handling
> exercises'. This is where you are doing things to the puppy that a normal dog
> would find uncomfortable, both mentally and physically. Squeezing feet, looking
> in ears, putting fingers in the mouth and additionally, putting the puppy in
> *** positions like being on their back. The key to this is that it is
> not done in a confrontational manner. It is done in a very happy manner while
> petting and feeding the puppy special treats.
> You are in effect, teaching the dog trust. Trust that when they put themselves
> in a *** position around you, then nothing bad will happen to them. One
> of the regulars here, Avrama, has said that for her, doing the Alpha Roll on her
> dog means that he flops over on his back for a belly rub. That is how it should
> Dog FAQs:
No Ludwig, what you are teaching is might makes right, an easy task with a little
pup. What you are doing is violating the dog's trust and confidence, and teaching
the dog to beware of your every move. Sure, he'll submit, for now. When the dog gets
bigger, usually about nine months, they'll challenge the handler. If the heavy
handed methods work once again, that will postpone the problem till the dog is about
about eigh*** months. If that challenge is once again thwarted, there may be
another challenge at any time over the next five years, at which time the final
maturation stage of the dog will naturally cease the endless corrections and
substitute malbehaviors. Rick has had an opportunity to understand and learn, and
and he has chosen a dubious path. That's his business, he'll learn the hard way.
My business is calling your own ineptitude to your attention, once again, Ludwig.
Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my
personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not
have to do, then you shouldn't be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that
tells you to jerk your dog around, shock, or punish him in any manner, that
corrections are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as the punisher, or
that corrections are not harmful, or they can't train your dog to do what you
want, look for a trainer that knows Howe.
Wits' End Dog Training
Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and
make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on
the head should, please, not hit at all.
The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned
The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs
brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow
exponentially, to make him smarter.
The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of
canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition,
constant corrections, and scolding.