Seizures- Anyone know the cause...or cure

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Seizures- Anyone know the cause...or cure

Post by Beatrice Chambe » Thu, 21 Dec 1995 04:00:00



Sammy, our 5 year old standard poodle, has been having infrequent
seizures (9 months apart) until suddently he got 2 seizures within 10
days of each other. I will wait and see what happens in the next 10
days or less and have alerted our vet by letter. This started when he
was 3.5 years old.

Does this have anything to do with diet? hereditary? It is
distressing to watch but once it is over, and he sleeps, he acts
perfectly normal.

Thanks for any information


 
 
 

Seizures- Anyone know the cause...or cure

Post by DAVID ZIMMERM » Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>Sammy, our 5 year old standard poodle, has been having infrequent
>seizures (9 months apart) until suddently he got 2 seizures within 10
>days of each other. I will wait and see what happens in the next 10
>days or less and have alerted our vet by letter. This started when he
>was 3.5 years old.
>Does this have anything to do with diet? hereditary? It is
>distressing to watch but once it is over, and he sleeps, he acts
>perfectly normal.
>Thanks for any information


Bea:  We have a Beagle who used to have seizures.  The vet said they
were due to to much fat in the diet.  I don't think so.  Also saw
somewhere that chocolate is supposed to give dogs seizures.

David

 
 
 

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Post by Ellen JK Schneiderma » Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Bea:  There's a number of reasons/causes of seizures.  Diet is one
factor in some cases.  Heredity, poisoning, exercise, a tumor or other
medical condition, you name it...it can cause a seizure in any given
animal.  Some people feel that increasing the Vitamin E in the diet
helps, others feel that eliminating artifcial preservatives helps.

Try to think of the circumstances surrounding the different episodes.  
Is there anything that ties them together, any similarities at all?

If the seizures continue to become more frequent, I would suggest having
some tests done on your dog.  Perhaps she would benefit from drug
therapy.  The most common *** being used to treat seizures are phenol
barbital and potassium bromide (sp?).

E-mail me if you'd like to discuss this further.

Best wishes,

ellen

 
 
 

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Post by George Back & Diane McMan » Sun, 24 Dec 1995 04:00:00


At the url:
http://WWW.Zmall.Com/pet_talk/
you can find a faq on canine epilepsy.

Also, you could ask on the canine genetics maillist;
email to cgl-teleport.com

Best of luck with this.
G&D


Quote:

> Sammy, our 5 year old standard poodle, has been having infrequent
> seizures (9 months apart) until suddently he got 2 seizures within 10
> days of each other. I will wait and see what happens in the next 10
> days or less and have alerted our vet by letter. This started when he
> was 3.5 years old.

> Does this have anything to do with diet? hereditary? It is
> distressing to watch but once it is over, and he sleeps, he acts
> perfectly normal.

> Thanks for any information



 
 
 

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Post by Beatrice Chambe » Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Thanks. I checked out that URL and someone also emailed a copy to me.
There is some good information there.

Bea

 
 
 

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Post by Gerald W. Garc » Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:00:00


B  
I'm away from a WWW broweser; would some kind soul please email
the faq file on canine epilepsy.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart,
Gerald


: At the url:
: http://WWW.Zmall.Com/pet_talk/
: you can find a faq on canine epilepsy.

: Also, you could ask on the canine genetics maillist;
: email to cgl-teleport.com

: Best of luck with this.
: G&D


: > Sammy, our 5 year old standard poodle, has been having infrequent
: > seizures (9 months apart) until suddently he got 2 seizures within 10
: > days of each other. I will wait and see what happens in the next 10
: > days or less and have alerted our vet by letter. This started when he
: > was 3.5 years old.
: >
: > Does this have anything to do with diet? hereditary? It is
: > distressing to watch but once it is over, and he sleeps, he acts
: > perfectly normal.
: >
: > Thanks for any information
: >

 
 
 

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Post by Saye Cleme » Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Sounds like you should consider a trip to the vet - canine epilepsy commonly
presents at an age of 6 months - 2.5 years.  Poodles are known as a
breed that when affected by epilepsy usually have fairly mild and infrequent
(every 6 months or so) seizures which often don't require treatment.  However,
now that your dog's seizures are starting to increase in frequency you may
need to start treatment with an anticonvulsant.  Epilepsy is a diagnosis of
exclusion - in other words, you need to rule out other potential causes of
seizures first - this usually involves ***work and urinalysis to start.  
Seizures can be caused by metabolic disturbances (low glucose or calcium
levels); tumors (not as common in young dogs) or trauma - to name a few
things.  If your dog is diagnosed with epilepsy, they should not be bred -
there is a hereditary element to the disease, as well, it is thought that the
stress of coming into heat can actually trigger seizures in ***es (I know
your dog is a male so this last point is more for the information of the
group).  Hope this helps, good luck.

Saye Clement DVM

Quote:
>> Sammy, our 5 year old standard poodle, has been having infrequent
>> seizures (9 months apart) until suddently he got 2 seizures within 10
>> days of each other. I will wait and see what happens in the next 10
>> days or less and have alerted our vet by letter. This started when he
>> was 3.5 years old.

>> Does this have anything to do with diet? hereditary? It is
>> distressing to watch but once it is over, and he sleeps, he acts
>> perfectly normal.

>> Thanks for any information



 
 
 

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Post by Gerald W. Garcia, P. » Fri, 29 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Thanks again to those who sent me information on canine epilepsy; I appreciate
the assistance, and I know Mom's lab (Max) will too!

God bless,
Gerald

 
 
 

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Post by Holli Mcnul » Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Bea

My dog just started to have seizures.  My vet put him in phenobarbatol,
1/4 gram once a day.  It seems to help but I work all day and I don't
know if he has them during the day.

The best thing to do for your dog is to reassure your dog when he has a
seizure.  Just pet him and talk to him.  That's about the only thing you
can do. But make sure your vet knows what is going on.

I hope that helps you.

H

 
 
 

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Post by Dixie Bla » Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:00:00


: My dog just started to have seizures.  My vet put him in phenobarbatol,
: 1/4 gram once a day.  It seems to help but I work all day and I don't
: know if he has them during the day.

Amber Lee showed up with epilepsy when she was 2 years old. I can tell
when she has had a seizure (she is now 6 1/2 years old) because of
her demeanor as soon as I walk in the door. Pay attention when you
know they have seizured... and you'll see what I mean. A listlessness
and clinging attitude is the best way I can describe it.

: The best thing to do for your dog is to reassure your dog when he has a
: seizure.  Just pet him and talk to him.  That's about the only thing you
: can do. But make sure your vet knows what is going on.

Yes and double yes to Holli's recommendation...

Dixie Lee and Amber Lee (who does quite well on 1 gram pheno in a.m.
and 1 1/4 gram pheno in p.m.)

p.s.  Always have a liver check at least once a year to make sure the
      pheno is not causing problems there... otherwise you have a
      healthy wonderful dog who just has some special needs.

 
 
 

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Post by Lorna Bro » Sun, 31 Dec 1995 04:00:00


My eight year old yorkshire terrier began having seizures out of the blue
one day.  We took him to the emergency vet where we were given valium and
prednisone.  He seemed fine the next day, so we took him off the valium
as advised, but he started seizing again.  He was having about one every
twenty seconds.  Apart from the seizures he was acting completely normal.
 He had no idea he was having them just as we would not experience the
seizure as it was actually happening.  We called our vet who referred us
to the University of Florida vet hospital, we are lucky that we live
close to this school although it turned out to be very expensive.
They ran a battery of tests including a spinal tap, and an mri.  It turns
out that our dog has viral encephalitis, but they can not tell us how or
what caused it.  They eliminated all of the known causes.  He is on
phenobarbitol, potassium bromide, prednisone and cefatab everyday.  We
are slowly cutting down the medication and hoping that he can fight off
the virus himself while the seizures are under control.  
I would strongly recommend spending a day with your dog and watching for
seizures, since it took us about a week and a half to balance the
medication so he would be seizure free.  I would also lock your dog in a
room where he cannot fall of things.  Our dog would climb on the back of
the couch, have a seizure and then fall off.  Also, our dogs seizures
built in number over time.  The first day he had a few, the next day more,
 etc, etc.  So it is very important to watch your dog.   Our vet was very
concerned about the damage the seizures would cause to the brain, so she
was quick to try and get them under control.  Good luck
Lorna
 
 
 

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Post by Beatrice Chambe » Mon, 01 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Thanks for your reply. My vet wants to wait for 1 more seizure before
starting medication. She doesn't know if the 10 day one was a fluke
or a pattern. So, .... we wait. He has passed the 10 day point as of
today. Once the seizures become either more frequent or longer, we
start medication.
 
 
 

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Post by Steve Hari » Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:00:00


My 3 year old Beagle just had what we think was a seizure last
night - it scared us to death!  She was laying down on the
couch and jumped off and began walking to her dog bed when I
noticed she was sort of trotting with her front paws and
seemed to have trouble keeping her balance.  We took her to
the emergency vet, and by the time we got there (10 min) most
of the symptoms had gone away.  They did some tests and
everything came out OK.  Is this the same kind of seizure
others have experienced or does it sound like something else
to anyone out there?

Thanks for any insight!
Steve Haris, Alexandria VA

 
 
 

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Post by Paula » Fri, 05 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Sounds like a seizure to me. He may never have another one. At this point,
keep an eye on him, & if future seizures occur, keep a log with date &
circumstances to detect a possible pattern.

If he does seizure in the future, there's no need to go to the emergency
vet unless the seizure lasts longer than around 10 minutes, or the
seizures are coming in clusters.

I have 2 seizuring dogs who are otherwise healthy & happy. Both are now on
medication to control seizures.

You probably want to report this episode to your vet. It's way to early to
go on medication, so don't let your vet jump the gun,like my old vet did.

 
 
 

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Post by q.. » Mon, 08 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>My 3 year old Beagle just had what we think was a seizure last
>night - it scared us to death!  She was laying down on the
>couch and jumped off and began walking to her dog bed when I
>noticed she was sort of trotting with her front paws and
>seemed to have trouble keeping her balance.  We took her to
>the emergency vet, and by the time we got there (10 min) most
>of the symptoms had gone away.  They did some tests and
>everything came out OK.  Is this the same kind of seizure
>others have experienced or does it sound like something else
>to anyone out there?
>Thanks for any insight!
>Steve Haris, Alexandria VA

My brother and I have Poodle/Shih tsu mix dogs.  They both have
seizures.  Mine has had three in three years.  All of them started
with the dog getting e***d and running to the door.  The first one
happen when a door bell rang on TV and she got up to run for the door
at 11 pm.  She suddenly started walking like she was drunk, melted to
the floor and twitched.  I thought she was dieing.  I called my
husband at work and told him to come straight home (he was only 5
minutes away) .  When he got home "Marie" greeted him at the door
perky as ever .  He said, "So, this is the dieing dog?"  Since then it
has happened 2 more times.  The last one had two episodes one right
after the other.  They always scare me half to death.  I just make
sure she is safe and sit close, because she feels this need to get
right next to me when it is happening, so I go to her.  I also be
careful, because the vet says sometimes when dogs aren't feeling well
they might bite.  She only weighs 8 lbs. I figure how much damage
could she do.

My brother's dog "Marie's brother" has a seizure every couple months
or so.  They are brought on by e***ment also.  He says they mostly
happen after "Albert" has had a bath and is running around e***dly.

Both of our vets don't feel the seizures happen often enough to take
medication for them.  They say the medication gives them a quality of
life that is almost worst the seizures.

I just be sure and tell the groomer and dog sitter of the potential
for a seizure incase it happens in their presents.

So far both dogs are happy healthy dogs and a great joy.

Lynne