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Post by ThePuppyWizar » Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:04:03



Your punishment and crating made your dog Summer "fear aggressive" of
children and got her DEAD. It's ALL IN THE ARCHIVES.
Quote:



>>I would ignore leah's advice completely.  Go to the link below, to her
>>webpage.  You should look through her pictures.  She has stained
>>carpeting (probably the dogs, but could be her (eg)) and completely
>>chewed up framing around the doors and walls.  What's even funnier..
>>is a bunch of the pics are of the dogs near their crates.. so how did
>>her house get chewed up??

>>Her advice may sound nice and cuddly, but she can't even keep her
>>animals from eating her house.  Bite once, maybe twice, but i'd be
>>damned if my dog ate my freaking molding.. and i'd be worse if i
>>allowed them to make suggestions on how to train my dogs.

> Oh please.  Ever hear of puppies chewing anything they can get their teeth
> on?   As far as crates go, someone who uses a crate to train or restrain
> their dogs when they're not home is not evil or cruel or any of the other
> colorful and abusive adjectives Jerry is so fond of applying to us.

> --
> Tara

 
 
 

Am I doing this OK?

Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 03:50:24


HOWEDY disciple cad,

Quote:



>>You are the world's biggest moron.

tara o killed her dog Summer.

Quote:
>> What's in the archives isn't me punishing Summer.

Oh? Sez so right there...

Quote:
>> What's in the archives, and I have pictures to back up,
>> isn't Summer hating or being frightened of her crate.

The barrier frustration is what made IT "fear aggressive" of kids.

Quote:
>> It was one of her favorite places.

TO HIDE... That reinforces her fears.

Quote:
>> The only thing that is in the archives is that I put Summer to sleep.  

You ***ED Summer "cause she trusted you to do what's BEST for her"
even after The Puppy Wizzzard offered her a FREE SAFE HOWES forever.

Quote:
>> If you think for one moment I would have thought it more
>> humane to give her into the hands of a hostile lunatic like yourself then
>> you're more crazy than I thought.

You was afraid Summer would turn out NORMAL in a couple days of pupper
handling and training and THAT would EMBARRASS YOU.

Quote:
>> Go play with your little box.

The "little box" would have CURED all of Summer's behavior problems.

Quote:
> Tara, none of us believe the ***that Jerry spews on this.

Yes you do. You're liars and dog abusers just like tara o.

Quote:
> His record of distortion is clear,

The Puppy Wizzzard's reptuation is GODLIKE.

Quote:
> and the archives demonstrate that without any shadow of a doubt.

INDEED.

 > He's doing the same thing to me presently about

Quote:
> Frankie, which is funny, really.

You broke Frankie's neck for him. That's not funny.

Quote:
>> He says I've abused frankie by ***
>> him with a collar which resulted in his neck injury.

You did.

Quote:
> (It changes often, but looking over today's posts by

 > clearing out my filters

You read The Puppy Wizzzard's posts first.

Quote:
> yields this charge: "you broke his neck by jerking and *** him.")

Yeah... like it sez...

Quote:
> Its him lying, nothing else.

You're the liar and dog abuser.

Quote:
> He claims I choked frankie by the collar, but I don't own a collar.
> He claims I choked frankie with a leash, but I've a flexi and never,

 > ever have yanked, pulled, etc. Hes forever been

Quote:
> on a harness, etc, which make these claims just absurd.

Right. You'd never hurt your dog or lie...

Quote:
> And to boot, Frankie's ailment is genetic, and was caused when he jumped
> off a couch to get some of DW's chips in the other room, landing wrong
> on his neck.

The damage was done because he's hyperactive and hurt himself on lead
cause you was jerking and *** IT.

Quote:
> He says the same things about Rocky's ideopathic epilepsy.

FACT. Rocky's "epilepsy" was cause by ABUSE.

Quote:
> He'd mock someone for a kid with down syndrome, I'm convinced.

Naaah. But I'd mock diddler's 86 I.Q. spawn.

Quote:
> It makes him scum of the earth.

The Puppy Wizzzard has proven you and matty to be lying
dog abusing Punk Thug Cowards.

Quote:
> Add to that his attempt to hawk a worthless machine

The Puppy Wizzzard's Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A
Rooster Did And A***atoo Or Two Did Too) machine is 100%
MONEY BACK satisfaction GUARANTEED FOREVER.

Quote:
> and his dangerous veterinary advice,

You mean the advice that certain 'veterinary' problems are
behavi***and should be trained NEARLY INSTANTLY using The
Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Trainign Method Manual.

Quote:
> and you've got a real charmer.

The Puppy Wizzzard came here to IDENTIFY, EXXXPOSE, and DISCREDIT
HOWER LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARDS LIKE YOU and professor
"SCRUFF SHAKE AND SCREAM NO INTO ITS FACE FOR 5 SECONDS AND LOCK
IT IN A BOX FOR TEN MINUTES REFLECTION" dermer and Master Of
Deception blankman and her pals sindy *** mooreon of HOWER
illustrious faqs pages on k9 web and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

And next he's gonna SHAFT the shelter/rescuer dog abusers.

 > Then the mountains of spam, the abusive advice, etc.

Yeah.. MOUNTAINS of INFORMATION.

Quote:
> Best thing I did was killfile his many names.

BWWAAAHAHAHAHAAA!!! The Puppy Wizzzard is you favorite topic.

Quote:
> I go back and check every now and then,

Yeah. A couple times a day.

Quote:
> but lost interest once he make up ***about Frankie's injury.

Right...

Quote:
> Poof, out of thin air.

JUST LIKE FREAKIN MAGICK.

Quote:
> *shrug*

You might freeze like that...

Quote:
> The one who calls everyone a liar

AND PROVES IT.

Quote:
> and dog abuser is the biggest liar of them all..

Yeah. Ask any of your pals.

Quote:
> No other way around it...

Right. The Puppy Wizzzard trains dogs for FREE, NEARLY INSTANTLY,
oftimes FASTER... AND NEVER HURTS DOGS.

Quote:
> Funny thing is that the archives prove it.

INDEED.
Quote:
> Best,
> Chad
----- Original Message -----


Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! -  "Owners Should Always

Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training
is Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first
rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my
side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay

========================

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Jerry the jerk howe

 > Kay if you only knew what a jerk howe is it's either
 > his way or your wrong no matter what training method
 > you use. In a post re: adopting a shelter dog he
 > stated "fu*k Buster" if you want I can refer you to the
 > post.

 > He's nothing but a blowhard and if he was closer I
 > would pay him a visit. He used your post from  July
 > in his rebuttal

 > Bob Garrett

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Jerry the jerk howe

I have to strongly disagree that Jerry is a jerk. I am a
dog trainer and I have been for almost 30 years. I
believe strongly in positive reinforcement. My youngest
was trained using treats and praise.

My oldest how ever was not trained that way I am ashamed
to say. The result a very dangerous dog. He has problems
with barrier and *** aggression. A year ago he put
a hole in my leg that took weeks to heal.

When the vet and all of my friends advocated putting him
down I found Jerry's website. I was looking for a natural
way to calm my dog and train him all over again as well.

You say Jerry is a jerk well I have talked to him on the
phone and consulted him about his training methods.
I really grilled him before I even considered using his
methods.

He loves dogs. Using his methods my Head Hunter is
now a very sweet dog. I get kisses instead of growls.
When he growls or even looks like he is going to bark
I tell him what a good dog he is and right away he shuts
up, looks at me like I'm nuts. But doesn't try to eat anyone.

I am happy to say that the vet thinks I have him on major
***. I don't! I still use a muzzle on him when I have to
take him to iffy places. But hey I know he in now a sugar.
And the most important thing he is happy again.

It's a free country and you are entitled to your opinion. I
have mine.

Sincerely
Kay

-----------------------------------
----- Original Message -----


Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training

 > Hi Jerry,
 > Send the post to whom ever you wish to. Believe me I will
 > keep you updated. I got to tell you His amazing progress
 > almost makes me cry.

 > Kay Pierce

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training

 > Jerry,

 > I started Hunter on his training using your manual and
 > training method.

 > What a marked difference in just a few hours. I had him in
 > my van and just using the sound with his remote trainer and
 > telling him he's a good dog when he started looking like he
 > was going to bark at a car worked great.

 > He only barked 2 or 3 times. Then I took him to a spot that
 > we had used years ago to train, Jerry I have hope that I can
 > have my happy dog back soon. And  not this tense unhappy
 > creature I live with now.

 > He was so happy today. I am looking forward to getting the
 > machine so that he can stay that way.

 > Thank you,
 > Kay Pierce

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:54 PM
Subject: Making Progress

 > Hello Jerry,
 > Hunter and I started working the recall and family
 > pack exercise today. On leash and in the house
 > he has a perfect recall. And I think he really started
 > to relax and enjoy himself I swear he was laughing.

 > I had taught him to go to  the heel position when he
 > comes to me years ago. And over the past few months
 > I have had to tell him to go there. Today he flew into
 > the heel position each  and every time

...

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Am I doing this OK?

Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 03:50:24


HOWEDY disciple cad,

Quote:



>>You are the world's biggest moron.

tara o killed her dog Summer.

Quote:
>> What's in the archives isn't me punishing Summer.

Oh? Sez so right there...

Quote:
>> What's in the archives, and I have pictures to back up,
>> isn't Summer hating or being frightened of her crate.

The barrier frustration is what made IT "fear aggressive" of kids.

Quote:
>> It was one of her favorite places.

TO HIDE... That reinforces her fears.

Quote:
>> The only thing that is in the archives is that I put Summer to sleep.  

You ***ED Summer "cause she trusted you to do what's BEST for her"
even after The Puppy Wizzzard offered her a FREE SAFE HOWES forever.

Quote:
>> If you think for one moment I would have thought it more
>> humane to give her into the hands of a hostile lunatic like yourself then
>> you're more crazy than I thought.

You was afraid Summer would turn out NORMAL in a couple days of pupper
handling and training and THAT would EMBARRASS YOU.

Quote:
>> Go play with your little box.

The "little box" would have CURED all of Summer's behavior problems.

Quote:
> Tara, none of us believe the ***that Jerry spews on this.

Yes you do. You're liars and dog abusers just like tara o.

Quote:
> His record of distortion is clear,

The Puppy Wizzzard's reptuation is GODLIKE.

Quote:
> and the archives demonstrate that without any shadow of a doubt.

INDEED.

 > He's doing the same thing to me presently about

Quote:
> Frankie, which is funny, really.

You broke Frankie's neck for him. That's not funny.

Quote:
>> He says I've abused frankie by ***
>> him with a collar which resulted in his neck injury.

You did.

Quote:
> (It changes often, but looking over today's posts by

 > clearing out my filters

You read The Puppy Wizzzard's posts first.

Quote:
> yields this charge: "you broke his neck by jerking and *** him.")

Yeah... like it sez...

Quote:
> Its him lying, nothing else.

You're the liar and dog abuser.

Quote:
> He claims I choked frankie by the collar, but I don't own a collar.
> He claims I choked frankie with a leash, but I've a flexi and never,

 > ever have yanked, pulled, etc. Hes forever been

Quote:
> on a harness, etc, which make these claims just absurd.

Right. You'd never hurt your dog or lie...

Quote:
> And to boot, Frankie's ailment is genetic, and was caused when he jumped
> off a couch to get some of DW's chips in the other room, landing wrong
> on his neck.

The damage was done because he's hyperactive and hurt himself on lead
cause you was jerking and *** IT.

Quote:
> He says the same things about Rocky's ideopathic epilepsy.

FACT. Rocky's "epilepsy" was cause by ABUSE.

Quote:
> He'd mock someone for a kid with down syndrome, I'm convinced.

Naaah. But I'd mock diddler's 86 I.Q. spawn.

Quote:
> It makes him scum of the earth.

The Puppy Wizzzard has proven you and matty to be lying
dog abusing Punk Thug Cowards.

Quote:
> Add to that his attempt to hawk a worthless machine

The Puppy Wizzzard's Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A
Rooster Did And A***atoo Or Two Did Too) machine is 100%
MONEY BACK satisfaction GUARANTEED FOREVER.

Quote:
> and his dangerous veterinary advice,

You mean the advice that certain 'veterinary' problems are
behavi***and should be trained NEARLY INSTANTLY using The
Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Trainign Method Manual.

Quote:
> and you've got a real charmer.

The Puppy Wizzzard came here to IDENTIFY, EXXXPOSE, and DISCREDIT
HOWER LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARDS LIKE YOU and professor
"SCRUFF SHAKE AND SCREAM NO INTO ITS FACE FOR 5 SECONDS AND LOCK
IT IN A BOX FOR TEN MINUTES REFLECTION" dermer and Master Of
Deception blankman and her pals sindy *** mooreon of HOWER
illustrious faqs pages on k9 web and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

And next he's gonna SHAFT the shelter/rescuer dog abusers.

 > Then the mountains of spam, the abusive advice, etc.

Yeah.. MOUNTAINS of INFORMATION.

Quote:
> Best thing I did was killfile his many names.

BWWAAAHAHAHAHAAA!!! The Puppy Wizzzard is you favorite topic.

Quote:
> I go back and check every now and then,

Yeah. A couple times a day.

Quote:
> but lost interest once he make up ***about Frankie's injury.

Right...

Quote:
> Poof, out of thin air.

JUST LIKE FREAKIN MAGICK.

Quote:
> *shrug*

You might freeze like that...

Quote:
> The one who calls everyone a liar

AND PROVES IT.

Quote:
> and dog abuser is the biggest liar of them all..

Yeah. Ask any of your pals.

Quote:
> No other way around it...

Right. The Puppy Wizzzard trains dogs for FREE, NEARLY INSTANTLY,
oftimes FASTER... AND NEVER HURTS DOGS.

Quote:
> Funny thing is that the archives prove it.

INDEED.
Quote:
> Best,
> Chad
----- Original Message -----


Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! -  "Owners Should Always

Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training
is Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first
rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my
side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay

========================

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Jerry the jerk howe

 > Kay if you only knew what a jerk howe is it's either
 > his way or your wrong no matter what training method
 > you use. In a post re: adopting a shelter dog he
 > stated "fu*k Buster" if you want I can refer you to the
 > post.

 > He's nothing but a blowhard and if he was closer I
 > would pay him a visit. He used your post from  July
 > in his rebuttal

 > Bob Garrett

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Jerry the jerk howe

I have to strongly disagree that Jerry is a jerk. I am a
dog trainer and I have been for almost 30 years. I
believe strongly in positive reinforcement. My youngest
was trained using treats and praise.

My oldest how ever was not trained that way I am ashamed
to say. The result a very dangerous dog. He has problems
with barrier and *** aggression. A year ago he put
a hole in my leg that took weeks to heal.

When the vet and all of my friends advocated putting him
down I found Jerry's website. I was looking for a natural
way to calm my dog and train him all over again as well.

You say Jerry is a jerk well I have talked to him on the
phone and consulted him about his training methods.
I really grilled him before I even considered using his
methods.

He loves dogs. Using his methods my Head Hunter is
now a very sweet dog. I get kisses instead of growls.
When he growls or even looks like he is going to bark
I tell him what a good dog he is and right away he shuts
up, looks at me like I'm nuts. But doesn't try to eat anyone.

I am happy to say that the vet thinks I have him on major
***. I don't! I still use a muzzle on him when I have to
take him to iffy places. But hey I know he in now a sugar.
And the most important thing he is happy again.

It's a free country and you are entitled to your opinion. I
have mine.

Sincerely
Kay

-----------------------------------
----- Original Message -----


Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training

 > Hi Jerry,
 > Send the post to whom ever you wish to. Believe me I will
 > keep you updated. I got to tell you His amazing progress
 > almost makes me cry.

 > Kay Pierce

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training

 > Jerry,

 > I started Hunter on his training using your manual and
 > training method.

 > What a marked difference in just a few hours. I had him in
 > my van and just using the sound with his remote trainer and
 > telling him he's a good dog when he started looking like he
 > was going to bark at a car worked great.

 > He only barked 2 or 3 times. Then I took him to a spot that
 > we had used years ago to train, Jerry I have hope that I can
 > have my happy dog back soon. And  not this tense unhappy
 > creature I live with now.

 > He was so happy today. I am looking forward to getting the
 > machine so that he can stay that way.

 > Thank you,
 > Kay Pierce

----- Original Message -----


Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:54 PM
Subject: Making Progress

 > Hello Jerry,
 > Hunter and I started working the recall and family
 > pack exercise today. On leash and in the house
 > he has a perfect recall. And I think he really started
 > to relax and enjoy himself I swear he was laughing.

 > I had taught him to go to  the heel position when he
 > comes to me years ago. And over the past few months
 > I have had to tell him to go there. Today he flew into
 > the heel position each  and every time

...

read more »

 
 
 

Am I doing this OK?

Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 03:56:11


Quote:


> The one who calls everyone a liar and dog abuser is the biggest liar of
> them all.. No other way around it... Funny thing is that the archives
> prove it.
> Best,
> Chad
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric

Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in...

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding
*** peeing.  Just wanted to let you know he's doing
great- he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques!
He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!  Once I
stopped thinking like a human and got inside his head, I can
teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes.  Makes me
look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed 'em,
and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside their
heads and teach them to teach themselves how to be good dogs!
Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

  Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T",
  I learned from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate
  their brain rather than beating ass or pinching, or any
  of that nonsense.  I know damn well I would NOT be loyal
  to someone who beat MY ass lol!

  Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out
  there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.  A
  horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
  training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship".  He
  is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
  repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any
  more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it (pun
  intended)...  Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

====================

 
 
 

Am I doing this OK?

Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 03:57:37


Quote:


> The one who calls everyone a liar and dog abuser is the biggest liar of
> them all.. No other way around it... Funny thing is that the archives
> prove it.

> Best,
> Chad
Nevyn writes:

Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive had with
your training manual! My two mutts have gone from
out-of-control psychos to obedient well behaved companions
within a matter of weeks! AND My friends have seen the success
and have asked me to work on their dogs!

I was working with a 5 month old Ridgeback female today and
she was being an angel after like an hour of working with her!
It is AMAZING!!

I pity those fools who take their dogs to classes where the
"Trainers"abuse their dogs! (do they have a degree? A masters?
a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes off the street
who think they know how to train dogs!)

Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!

NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.

================


Subject: Newsgroups: rec. pets. dogs. behavior
Date: 2002-03-01 03:15:50 PST

Hello

I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly are Blue Heeler
(spots) x Kelpi (*** genes) x American Pitbull
(behavioural) x Pug (don't laugh!).

They are gentle loving dogs when I'm at home with them, and
they are friendly with unknown people. They are sisters. One
is obviously *** over the other, and I don't have a
problem with that, however;

Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they are very good
whilst I'm walking them, some days they are not. They are 3
years old and have only been walking for about 12 months
because my mom didn't walk them and now I'm home so I walk
them for about an hour and half every afternoon. I take
them to the park where they chase birds and swim in the lake.

This is my problem :

The less-*** dog viscously barks at every other dog we
walk past; I have tried using a stick and giving her a tap
when she does it, and treating her with treats when she
doesn't, using a ***chain, a muzzle and a thing that sprays
stuff in her mouth when she barks.

She won't stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her? ]

Also, the more-*** dog seems to know this is WRONG, when
the other dog barks, she doesn't bark, but she nips at the
other dog as if telling her to cut it out, and then the
barking one attacks the more-*** one and they fight on
the leash... it is quite disturbing to the people walking
past.

And also the more-*** one is okay around other
dogs... SOMETIMES... sometimes she completely ignores them,
and yet other times she will attack them, like yesterday. The
less *** one I must keep on a leash if a person brings
there dog to the park.

How do I stop them attacking other dogs? I have tried all the
methods I have used above for 10 months every afternoon. Is it
just a pac k-behaviour thing?

It can really be quite embarrassing when your dogs attack some
old lady's or little girl's dog.

They are good dogs, when at home or when there are no other
dogs around. Today there were hundreds of sparrows flying
around the park and they were chasing them and jumping up
trying to catch them for more than 90 minutes (They went
straight to bed when I bought them home!). Can anyone help

this list is tooo crowded.

Thanks,
Nevyn

=======================

Here's a discussion I just had with Nevyn, who wrote in here
about four weeks ago with some dog aggression problems
and THEN some.

Never give out your password or credit card number in an
instant message conversation.

Nevyn says:
hello Jerry.

Jerry says:
HOWEDY Nevyn

Nevyn says:
How are you?

Jerry says:
sup?

Nevyn says:
Oh nothing

Nevyn says:

My dogs are alot better now!

Jerry says:
fine

Jerry says:
tell me

Nevyn says:

about other dogs

Jerry says:
naah

Nevyn says:
I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats

Jerry says:
naah

Nevyn says:
Yup

Jerry says:
what did you do, buy a shock collar?

Nevyn says:
No

Nevyn says:
Praised them

Jerry says:
ahh!

Jerry says:
you think they're 100% better

Nevyn says:
'cept they still bark at the neighbour but only coz he swears
at them and pours water on them

Nevyn says:
nahh they still have stinky breath!

Nevyn says:
muahaha

Jerry says:
ok

Jerry says:
I'll go for that

Jerry says:
it'll take a couple more days to break the neighbor thing if
you're consistent

Jerry says:
then he won't swear and throw water at them

Nevyn says:
yeah but he's only out on the weekends

Jerry says:
but they'll still have stinky breath

Nevyn says:
muahahaha

Jerry says:
you gonna write the group and tell them they're suckin hind
teat?

Nevyn says:
eh

Nevyn says:
nah

Nevyn says:
cant

Nevyn says:
my news server isn't workin

Nevyn says:
how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it

Jerry says:
why not.

Nevyn says:
sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server

Jerry says:
you got anything you'd like to tell the dog lovers who would
prefer to see you ***and shock and lock your dogs in a box?

Jerry says:
I guess you don't want to tell them nuthin that they don't
already know, huh?

Nevyn says:
hah

Nevyn says:
tell them they're ***ers who need to die

Nevyn says:
dogs aren't for abusing they are for loving they love so much

Jerry says:
that's HOWE COME they got me now

Jerry says:
howe much training time did it take for the two of 'em?

Nevyn says:
pfftt

Nevyn says:
it didn't even seem like training

Nevyn says:
its been 24 days since I got your manual

Jerry says:
pfffttt!!!!

Jerry says:
hhahahahaha

Jerry says:
have you got that feeling that they're in tune with EVERYTHING
you're wanting them to do?

Jerry says:
I forgot what city you're in.

Jerry says:
maybe if you're near alphalpha sweeny you can swing by and
LAUGH your ass off at him growling at his dogs???

Jerry says:
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Nevyn says:
LOL

Nevyn says:
I'm in Perth, Australia!

Nevyn says:
and yes they do seem to be in tune

=====================

Nevyn says:
oh!! the other day my dogs went into *** position when
a tiny little toy poodle came up barking at them! !LOL

Jerry says:
EXCELLENT!

Nevyn says:
lol

Jerry says:
they knew they didn't need to fight, cause everything was in
your expert control.

Keep up the good work. j;~)
-----------------

 
 
 

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Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 04:06:30


   Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

==============================

Quote:



>>You are the world's biggest moron.  What's in the archives isn't me
>>punishing Summer.  What's in the archives, and I have pictures to back up,
>>isn't Summer hating or being frightened of her crate.  It was one of her
>>favorite places.  The only thing that is in the archives is that I put
>>Summer to sleep.  If you think for one moment I would have thought it more
>>humane to give her into the hands of a hostile lunatic like yourself then
>>you're more crazy than I thought.  Go play with your little box.

> Tara, none of us believe the ***that Jerry spews on this. His record
> of distortion is clear, and the archives demonstrate that without any
> shadow of a doubt. He's doing the same thing to me presently about
> Frankie, which is funny, really. He says I've abused frankie by ***
> him with a collar which resulted in his neck injury. (It changes often,
> but looking over today's posts by clearing out my filters yields this
> charge: "you broke his neck by jerking and *** him.")

> Its him lying, nothing else. He claims I choked frankie by the collar,
> but I don't own a collar. He claims I choked frankie with a leash, but
> I've a flexi and never, ever have yanked, pulled, etc. Hes forever been
> on a harness, etc, which make these claims just absurd.

> And to boot, Frankie's ailment is genetic, and was caused when he jumped
> off a couch to get some of DW's chips in the other room, landing wrong
> on his neck.

> He says the same things about Rocky's ideopathic epilepsy. He'd mock
> someone for a kid with down syndrome, I'm convinced. It makes him scum
> of the earth.

> Add to that his attempt to hawk a worthless machine and his dangerous
> veterinary advice, and you've got a real charmer. Then the mountains of
> spam, the abusive advice, etc.

> Best thing I did was killfile his many names. I go back and check every
> now and then, but lost interest once he make up ***about Frankie's
> injury. Poof, out of thin air.

> *shrug*

> The one who calls everyone a liar and dog abuser is the biggest liar of
> them all.. No other way around it... Funny thing is that the archives
> prove it.

> Best,
> Chad

 
 
 

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Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 04:07:31




  > HOWEDY kaeli,

Hi!

  > > > Because it takes only a few minutes and a few repetitions
  > > > to extinguish any behavior.

  > > Will any distraction work? Say a set of keys instead of a can?

  > Yes, so long as the distraction is brief and random and instantly
  > followed by prolonged non physical praise.

I tried this with her constant need to***, and I'll be darned if it
didn't work.

I am now reading that manual over and stopping all obedience work until
I'm done with it.

Just yesterday I put her on a flat collar and stopped all corrections.
Praise only. At first, she was quite confused. Today early, she was
taking advantage and being bratty (chasing the cat, getting into things,
etc). Now tonight, having received no corrections for her brattiness,
only the sound (my keys) and praise, she's starting to get the picture. I
think I am, too.

  > > In fact, it's the only way I've managed Sammie's intense desire
  > > to bolt up to and jump on people. She loves people. I make her sit and
  > > she can't jump as long as she's sitting. But you can tell she still
wants
  > > to.

  > Right. What you're doing does not extinguish the desire or anxitey
  > involved with the behavior. In fact, training an incompatible behavior
  > is time consuming and may be stressful for everyone.

I am seeing that.

I'm going to try it with the sound. It stopped her incessant***ing
(when you pet her, she***s and mouths your hand) within 5 minutes. She
has not relapsed yet, which is already a big thing, since it's something
she's always done. I've never gotten her to stop for more than a few
minutes, much less two days. So I'll see if it stops her need to jump,
too.

  > Good. It's a bit of a stretch to see things HOWE your dog does.

I'll say.

Not only seeing things from her POV, but changing my thoughts, too. I am
having to retrain my thought process more than anything with this. My
first response is to say "no" and give a correction. Stopping that
response is actually not an easy thing to do. Makes me think first, which
has got to be a good thing. LOL

  > > She loves people.

  > Excellent. A lot of e***ment over making introductions
  > can be simply stress from pryor difficult meetings where
  > stress was incured.

And I bet it is stressful for her, now that I'm thinking this way. She
meets someone and the first thing that happens to her is a correction for
jumping. She whines and wiggles - that has to be stress, doesn't it?

  > Right. Any time a consistent behavior can be predicted
  > means we can set it up to be distracted and praised in
  > several successive successful repetitions to fully
  > extinguish it, EZ.

She'll be the easiest to set up, too. She's very predictable.

  > > That's what the leash is for.

  > No. Cause when you force control you trigger the opposition
  > reflex and drive the dog out of control. Your forthcoming efforts
  > to control the dog REPRESS the opposition reflex, and causes
  > the behavior problem to CHANGE to other, often worse, seemingly
  > non related behavior problems as trainsfer or replacement behaviors.

Like when dogs (puppies) first get a collar and lead and feel the pull
and go crazy trying to get away?

  > That's HOWE COME I don't give advice for individual
  > behavior problems. To cure all behavior problems we've
  > got to learn the basic handling techniques like not tellin
  > the dog NO or forcing restraint to control the dog and
  > never having any negative associations or *** to
  > diminish your authority...

Speaking of negative associations, I must add that with only two days
(less, really, a day and a half) Sam is already maintaining more eye
contact and relaxing closer to me. That is, instead of laying across the
room, she lays at my feet.

  > > Okay, say I have Sam off lead. I want to teach her the
  > > come command.

  > Be a little late teachin the come command, if you ask me...

Why? Can't this technique work on all dogs regardless of age or history?
Or am I missing the point?

  > > How can I teach her that if the distraction of throwing the
  > > can (or keys or whatever) doesn't get her attention?

  > First, we condition the dog to getting praise with every
  > brief eye contact. Then we desensitize the dog to being
  > force controled on lead through the Hot & Cold Exercise.
  > Then we condition the dog to follow us through the Family
  > Leadership Exercise. Then we rely on all of that to compel
  > the dog to follow the program. Conditioning happens in just
  > a few puperly performed instances of following the EZ
  > instructions.

If I begin fresh, can I now do these in order?

We do an exercise close to the Family Leadership often, and the Hot and
Cold sounds like my normal daily outing. The eye contact I am currently
doing. Should I stop the others until the eye contact is perfect?

  > > She will come when called at any other time.

  > Well, we don't want to start off calling her because
  > we already agree calling the dog will not break the
  > dog's THOUGHTS of the undesirable behaviors.

So the distraction then? Followed by praise?
Should I call her at all or just distract her?

  > > Don't those Flexi's put pressure on the dog's collar?

  > Hardly moore than the weight of a length of rope.

  > > Or is that just the doofs I see walking using them wrong?

  > Probably so.

Yeah, they must be, because those dogs pull like crazy.
Opposition reflex in action, that's for sure.

  > > I use those long leads and let them drag.

  > Because her come command fails with squirrels...

Yeah.  :)

And the leash laws that require it.

We have to have them here, even if the dog is an angel in fur. I live in
a condo, so no yard.

  > > How can you condition the behavior if the dog has not
  > > reacted and is still barking at the fence?

  > Because we're working with the thoughts, not the body.
  > By the time the body responds to the thought, the thoughts
  > are already on the next attraction. That's YOU if you're
  > praising the sound, not waitin for the dog to look where
  > nobody's attracting him but the other dog.

  > Now you get it? We condition the dog to respond, and
  > he will, if we just follow the techniques as we've conditioned
  > the dog.

Yeah, I think I do get it. If you are only a positive thing for the dog,
not someone who does negative things, he won't have any stress about
responding to you. He will already want to come to you and get praise and
pets, knowing he will never be corrected.

I also think I'm going to have to recondition my thinking patterns for
this. *G*

  > > Or am I misreading?

  > I think you're catchin on. If you do catch on, you're not
  > gonna be real pupular around here no MOORE...

I'm not popular now. LOL

I come with an open mind and a desire for a healthy, happy dog.
If I get awesome results with pure positive training, why wouldn't I use
it? This mindset change will be way harder for me than for her. I'm
already seeing positive benefits. And I just started.

  > > I'd love to feel 100% control with no leash.

  > It'll take you a couple days, maybe four. Takes folks
  > with a lot of experience a bit longer than new students...

Yeah, we have to drop all our habituated responses of correcting the dog.
That has not been easy.

  > > I'd never trust her off lead around a lot of distractions.

  > Not till you're the most significant attraction in her whole
  > wide world. Ought to be EZ. Just never tell her NO and
  > never force control and always praise and follow all the
  > techniques taught in your FREE copy of my FREE Wits'
  > End Dog Training Method manual and ask me for help
  > if you need any and your dog will naturally want to do
  > every thing you ask, cause THAT'S the nature of the beast.

I think I'm really starting to see why she's so distracted - when I
correct her all the time, but "strangers" never do, why wouldn't she want
to go to them? Same with other distractions, I'm sure.

  > > If no petting, why not? Curious -

  > There's been a couple threads about that. Our dog
  > lovers try to make folks think that means NEVER
  > pat your dog. Our dog lovers will intentionally
  > misconstrue every thing me or my students say
  > because they PREFER to force hurt and intimidate
  > their dogs.

So just don't be all exuberantly petting them while they're thinking
because it becomes a distraction, then?

Now that I think about it, if I was trying to think and someone gave me a
hug, I'd lose my focus. I'd be thinking about the hug now, not what I was
doing. Is that right?

  > > That the command is pleasant?

  > That's VITAL. Isn't it, kaeli?

Yes, I suppose it is.

Otherwise it becomes stressful, right?

Then they can't think.

  > The problem is you want to SEE something happen
  > instead of setting things up to let them happen.

Another mindset thing I'll need to change. Over-analyzing.

  > > They are precise, but they don't explain well.

  > Yeah. That's the nature of the beast, I'm afraid.

This conversation is clearing up a lot.

And I re-read it (almost; I'm to the last part) and picked up some stuff
I missed the first time about it opening up the dog's mind, not just
making it an automaton. Which I liked, by the way.

  > > > Perhaps. Does she come instantly the first time every time?
  > > > That's what The Puppy Wizard expects.

  > > No. I'll admit it. But I'd like her to. *G*

  > Do the exercises and she will. Don't skip anything and
  > ask me for help if it's not going along as instructed.

I'm going to start from the beginning. I think I need to regain my dog's
trust.

  > > Allow the dog a choice and she may choose to play in traffic.

  > If we failed to make ourself MOORE attractive than the
  > street. Or if we've failed to teach the dog the street.
  > Dogs can learn to cross streets just like kids do.
...

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Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 04:08:02


Quote:


> The one who calls everyone a liar and dog abuser is the biggest liar of
> them all.. No other way around it... Funny thing is that the archives
> prove it.

> Best,
> Chad



      .net...
     > Jerry sent me the DDR when I mentioned my***atoo was
     > stressed out by my then just learning to walk baby.

     > Buddy was screaming day and night..lunging at Joey
     > whenever he crawled up to Buddy's cage and nipping the
     > baby ( if Buddy wanted to his beak is powerful enough to
     > sever an ***'s finger in one snap!) At first we
     > noticed nothing... after a few days ..nothing..nothing
     > except quiet :-)

     > That's not to say Buddy never screams.. heh.. he'a a
     > 'Too.. but the late night scream-a-thons ended.

      > He also tolerates Joey playing in his water dish <sigh>
      > just what I want...2 splashers! Buddy loves to bathe in
      > his water until there's more water on the floor and
      > walls than in his dish :-)

      > Twice now Buddy has had marathon scream-a-thons... for
      > a few days each time. It takes that long for me to
      > realize the DDR is unplugged :-O
      > Once cos DH did some maintenance and forgot to plug it
      > back in ( of course he remembered to plug the washing
      > machine back in ;-P)

      > The second time I had unplugged it while sweeping...and
      > forgot to plug it back in...

      > We sure enjoy him being such a good bird! He's been so
      > loving to everyone... my older 2 boys love being able
      > to give him scritches again.

      > ~misty

      > (No, Jerry, you can't have the DDR back just yet! :-)

===================

Quote:
----- Original Message -----
From: <>

Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -

Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie.  I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too.  Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,

N

=========



 > I've read over Jerry Howe's "Wit's End
 > Dog Training Manual" now several times.
 > And while everyone will get something a
 > bit different from it, I found that his "hot &
 > cold" exercise (first part of manual) is in
 > my opinion the "key" to the entire thing.
 > Once you have taught your dog (puppy)
 > to keep an "eye on you", then the rest of
 > its training (come, etc) becomes much
 > easier.  Additionally Jerry does point
 > out "why" dogs do the things that they
 > do.  So even if you don't like Jerry's
 > posts, you might like to download his
 > manual (it's free, after all!) and give it
 > a look over.  You might learn something.

 > My Boston Terrier puppy would chew up the newspaper
 > until I used the techniques in Jerry Howe's manual to
 > train her not to do it.  Simple distraction and praise.
 > You may not agree with all he says, but the manual
 > is well worth reading even if you don't use all of it.

 > Jerome Bigge
 > NRA Life Member
 > Supporter of National Health Insurance
 > CompTIA A+ Certified Computer Technician
 > Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
 > Download at "http://www.moonsgarden.com/~jbigge"

=================


Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi.

Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of  his business.
I simply want to thank him publicly for one of his tips, with
regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed animal
and then say good bye to my own dog, but I am usually a
very open minded person, so I tried it.  Well, lo and behold-
the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic.

Thank you Jerry!

********************************************************



Hi There Jerry

Its Nevyn. Sorry Ive not been posting, but these lying
scum buckets like Alphuck Sweeny and such really
***me off; And Ive been working weekend work at
the tracks with the greyhounds (thanks to you!).

Well my dogs are the envy of all on my street. I can
have them out in the yard with me, take them walking
without a leash, they will do any command with no
hesitation. And they don't bark anymore! Thanks to
your machine!

Oh yeah, I loaned your machine to several friends
and family -- Here are some reports:

"I would say my dogs are well trained, but they suffer
severe anxiety when no body is home. This machine
quietened them almost instantly - still they barked,
in the beginning, but just one or two barks. Then
slowly they just stopped... beginning to bark, then
instantly stopping.

It took only 2 weeks, and we did nothing.

Truly amazing;

I have recommomeded it to my family, and perhaps
they will buy one. Its a shame you don't sell them publicly".
-- Kylie, 30, on dogs Lili (11 yr mutt ***) and Sheeba (4 yr
Rotty X)

"My two dogs barked insanely when someone would
go past. With this little machine they quietened right
down, and even became partly obedient, and we did
nothing!

Great stuff.

We ran it only on the lowest setting, too!"
- Ed, 65, on his two male Dobermans, 5 yrs old.

Well I have some more, and am collecting more,
but I only have one machine so its a slow process.
Once again I say thankyou Jerry! My family was
on the verge of giving them up! :(

But no longer :)

=====================



 > I haven't quite finished reading the free chapter on
 > your website,

It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive,
total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals
to any level you desire.

 > but it already worked miracles with our three dogs.

Excellent.

 > The barking at the door has diminished so much
 > that, well, frankly, we're stunned.

My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at
any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade
static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch
***collars our "experts" here love so much.

 > We were sort of on the same page with you to begin
 > with (no crates, no ***chains).

Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're
misused.

 > A lot of what you say reminds of my dad's techniques
 > (he's an 84 year old dog lover,one of those about whom
 > people say, "dogs really like him." He's
 > never had a badly behaved dog.

Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle
and treat animals kindly.

 > We'd never heard of the noise emphasis,

You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques.

 > but the overall plan makes great sense.

Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post
recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the
distraction and praise process works from his POV as an
experience handler using my methods.

 > I did have a question.  The hardest part for us to
 > implement is the verbal praise only.

Why? That should be spontaneous and in association
with every glance towards you and every thought.

 > It's so hard not to pet and stroke the dog (especially
 > our seven month old).

Oh. Patting is O.K., only not in conjunction with a
thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought
process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an
inappropriate idea.

 > Can you give me the rationale behind that?

It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex.
Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him
from interacting with another dog, and we pull back
on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of
control.

As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will
continue his original thoughts about interacting with
the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control,
the handler needs to further force restraint, making
communication with the dog's MIND, impossible.

 > It will help me modify my own behavior.

Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is
fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a
command or thought we want him to process.

 > Anyway, your approach is amazing.

Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as
effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students
confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics
are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left  for me to
do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push
up daisies.

 > Melisande

==========================================



  > HOWEDY kaeli,

Hi!

  > > > Because it takes only a few minutes and a few repetitions
  > > > to extinguish any behavior.

  > > Will any distraction work? Say a set of keys instead of a can?

  > Yes, so long as the distraction is brief and random and instantly
  > followed by prolonged non physical praise.

I tried this with her constant need to***, and I'll be darned if it

...

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Post by ThePuppyWizar » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:57:18



Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

       Engrossing account, Anthony.  Our best to Angel
and your family.

       A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

       She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================


   >> Subject: Re: Crate Anxiety
   >> Date: 2002-04-04 12:56:23 PST

   >> Try Jerry Howe's training manual and check out his Doggy
   >> Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A***atoo
   >> Or Two Did Too) machine....it is for this.
   >> Please do not listen to the others in here that don't like
   >> him or his methods, they have never tried them....I  have
   >> and it works!!!!

   >> I broke my dog from nipping almost 100% in 1 day and
   >> she usually does this SEVERAL times a day and actually
   >> makes my kids bleed!

   >> Try it or contact him!  The manual is at the above website
   >> also, and it is free!
   >> Becky

   > ===========

Quote:

>   Chris Williams writes:

> "The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
> I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
> I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
> New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
> the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

> ==============================




>>> You are the world's biggest moron.  What's in the archives isn't me
>>> punishing Summer.  What's in the archives, and I have pictures to
>>> back up,
>>> isn't Summer hating or being frightened of her crate.  It was one of her
>>> favorite places.  The only thing that is in the archives is that I put
>>> Summer to sleep.  If you think for one moment I would have thought it
>>> more
>>> humane to give her into the hands of a hostile lunatic like yourself
>>> then
>>> you're more crazy than I thought.  Go play with your little box.

>> Tara, none of us believe the ***that Jerry spews on this. His record
>> of distortion is clear, and the archives demonstrate that without any
>> shadow of a doubt. He's doing the same thing to me presently about
>> Frankie, which is funny, really. He says I've abused frankie by
>> *** him with a collar which resulted in his neck injury. (It
>> changes often, but looking over today's posts by clearing out my
>> filters yields this charge: "you broke his neck by jerking and ***
>> him.")

>> Its him lying, nothing else. He claims I choked frankie by the collar,
>> but I don't own a collar. He claims I choked frankie with a leash, but
>> I've a flexi and never, ever have yanked, pulled, etc. Hes forever
>> been on a harness, etc, which make these claims just absurd.

>> And to boot, Frankie's ailment is genetic, and was caused when he
>> jumped off a couch to get some of DW's chips in the other room,
>> landing wrong on his neck.
>> He says the same things about Rocky's ideopathic epilepsy. He'd mock
>> someone for a kid with down syndrome, I'm convinced. It makes him scum
>> of the earth.

>> Add to that his attempt to hawk a worthless machine and his dangerous
>> veterinary advice, and you've got a real charmer. Then the mountains
>> of spam, the abusive advice, etc.
>> Best thing I did was killfile his many names. I go back and check
>> every now and then, but lost interest once he make up ***about
>> Frankie's injury. Poof, out of thin air.

>> *shrug*

>> The one who calls everyone a liar and dog abuser is the biggest liar
>> of them all.. No other way around it... Funny thing is that the
>> archives prove it.

>> Best,
>> Chad

 
 
 

Am I doing this OK?

Post by ThePuppyWizar » Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:59:51


Hey Everyone,

It's Nevyn here. Remember me? I hope so.
Well I see your all baggin on Jerry as usual. Well... Why?
His Methods are the best I have come across. And I have visited 10's
of trainers and behavioural therapists. His methods create a
_COMPANION_ animal. A FRIEND. His methods do not create slaves and
dogs that are trained in obedience only. OBIDIENCE TRAINING Does not
address Behavioural problems, people! Companionship training DOES.
Why? Because the dog comes to rely on YOU as its mentor.

Norma Briggs... Your***ing problem... ok. My dog used to do this. I
let her sleep inside on the beds. After using Jerrys manual, within 3
days she had stopped. She doens't*** at all. What's happening is she
is WORRYING that you are incapacitated in some way. So she is***ing
you for a response. She is NOT Maliciously waiting for you to go to
sleep. Do you understand that?

After meeting Jerry almost 24 months ago now, I have decided to become
a Trainer and Therpist myself. I am doing some private training here
and there. But I do not take peoples dogs and do "dog programming"
like all you "professional" trainers. I observe the dog and its'
handler and TRAIN THE HANDLER TO HANDLE CORRECTLY. Most dogs' only
need to see me three times and then they are well on there way to
being a perfect companion, ALL USING JERRYS MANUAL.

All of you can scream Koehler all you like, or quote Mike Dufort all
you want. They are ***ic controlling men who must have been abused
some way as a child. Indirectly or Directly it doesnt matter. They use
the dogs as an excuse and as a release, causing pain and harm to
innocent -- YES INNOCENT -- Creatures who have done nothing wrong then
simply trying to learn what they are being taught.  HOW MANY DOGS U
SPRAYED WITH BITTER APPLE THIS WEEK MIKE? DO YOU STILL CRINGE WHEN YOU
DO IT? "...then continue with your nomral behaviour" YEP, IM SURE THE
DOGS LOVE SEEING YOU BEATING UP YOUR KIDS. COZ THATS THE KINDA PERSON
YOU COME ACROSS AS.

I am tired of posting to this list. All of you Koehler wanna-bes out
there only fight Jerry because you will be put out of business. It is
sick. You cause harm for money, then when you fail and advise the
owner to *** their dog.

If any of you remember my first post, I was asking for help with
controlling my two mongrel ***es out in the street. WELL THANKS TO
JERRY I can now simply say "lets go for a walk" and they line up at my
feet, and we walk around the neighbourhood, off the leash, past other
dogs, past people, past children and babies. They stop and sit at
every road until I say it's ok to cross.

And Jerrys machine... hahahaha. You guys... his machine is a god send.
It stops barking and destructive behaviour. Jerry sent me one, FREE OF
CHARGE, and I have lent it to over 20 people and families. ALL HAVING
100% results! Compulsive barkers just watched passerbys instead of
viciously barking.... Whiners who wanted inside every waking moment
were happy to be outside... dont you get it? IT WORKS. Don't fight
progess people. Koehler is old school. His methods are not valid in
this instance, or I should say, no longer valid in this culture...
this day and age.

Heed my words people...
Talk to Jerry... He is not false.

Nevyn.

Quote:

> You are the world's biggest moron.  What's in the archives isn't me
> punishing Summer.  What's in the archives, and I have pictures to back up,
> isn't Summer hating or being frightened of her crate.  It was one of her
> favorite places.  The only thing that is in the archives is that I put
> Summer to sleep.  If you think for one moment I would have thought it more
> humane to give her into the hands of a hostile lunatic like yourself then
> you're more crazy than I thought.  Go play with your little box.

> --
> Tara



>>Your punishment and crating made your dog Summer "fear aggressive" of
>>children and got her DEAD. It's ALL IN THE ARCHIVES.