New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

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New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by KauilaPo » Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:59:09



Seems indeed there is a new "mutation" of the parvo virus. Here is more
information on it:
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F-Strain Virus

There is a recent mutation of the parvo virus which is more virulent. It
attacks the lower intestinal tract or large intestine. Dogs contracting this
new strain will have accelerated symptoms. Care should be given immediately!

Symptoms to watch for:
Gelatin-like stool with some ***.
Vomiting with bile and foam.
Rapid weight loss (within a few hours after becoming ill.)

*
Amber Technology
3814 W. Scranton Dr.
West Jordan, Utah  84084

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by Elaine Gallan » Sat, 07 Apr 2001 12:44:49


Yikes. Do you know if the regular vaccine is still effective against this
new strain?  WOW, like regular parvo isn't bad enough!


Quote:
> Seems indeed there is a new "mutation" of the parvo virus. Here is more
> information on it:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------
> F-Strain Virus

> There is a recent mutation of the parvo virus which is more virulent. It
> attacks the lower intestinal tract or large intestine. Dogs contracting
this
> new strain will have accelerated symptoms. Care should be given
immediately!

> Symptoms to watch for:
> Gelatin-like stool with some ***.
> Vomiting with bile and foam.
> Rapid weight loss (within a few hours after becoming ill.)

> *
> Amber Technology
> 3814 W. Scranton Dr.
> West Jordan, Utah  84084

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by J. Marti » Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:42:32


The "F strain parvo" internet myth made its rounds in 1998 as well.  It wasn't
true then so I doubt it's true this time.

J.

Quote:

> Seems indeed there is a new "mutation" of the parvo virus. Here is more
> information on it:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------
> F-Strain Virus

> There is a recent mutation of the parvo virus which is more virulent. It
> attacks the lower intestinal tract or large intestine. Dogs contracting this
> new strain will have accelerated symptoms. Care should be given immediately!

> Symptoms to watch for:
> Gelatin-like stool with some ***.
> Vomiting with bile and foam.
> Rapid weight loss (within a few hours after becoming ill.)

> *
> Amber Technology
> 3814 W. Scranton Dr.
> West Jordan, Utah  84084

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by WalterN » Sat, 07 Apr 2001 22:45:49


Quote:
> The "F strain parvo" internet myth made its rounds in 1998 as well.  It
wasn't
> true then so I doubt it's true this time.

There is always a "new' strain of some virus or bacterium being touted about
out there. In reality there are only so many of anything to go around, yet
many people irresponsibly use the wrong term when describing something and
spread misinformation, not realizing what they are doing.

For instance a vet in NY currently has the following message in her office"

Canine Medical Alert
Leptospirosis
A new strain of a severe bacterial disease called Leptospirosis has recently
been affecting dogs in New York. Leptospirosis is frequently fatal, causing
sudden kidney and liver failure in dogs. The disease is contagious to
humans. It is transmitted when a dog swallows water that has been
contaminated by the urine of...'

Now if you walked into this persons waiting room and saw this sign you might
think this is a terrible "new" thing. "What am I going to do" you might say?
Well the truth is the "new" strains she speaks of are not new. They are a
few of the seven serovars that have always existed. A reported single case
of Lepto in Brooklyn involved a strain which normally wasn't found in our
area. The 'new' part is really a reference to the pharmaceutical industry
which had a vaccination against the two most common strains but not the
strain in question, so somewhere along the line someone use the term "new"
when in reality they should have used the phrase "strain that has not been
found in our area". It is misinformation like this that becomes fact.

the term 'new' in regards to virus automatically puts fear in the minds of
people. Every year a handful of dogs in every state die from Lepto. Last
year in NY five died. This year there is one confirmed case. This posting
makes it seem eminent that dogs are going to get it and the only 'safe'
method is to vaccinate. Problem is the Lepto vaccine does not cover all
strains so you can vaccinate for one and still get another. In addition the
Lepto vaccination is one of the most dangerous vaccinations to give dogs. It
is not viral in nature but bacterial and as a result the way it is created
and the effect it has on the immune system can be worse than Lepto itself.
It has already been confined to being a single vaccination because when used
in combination with other vaccines it has caused serious problems. One has
to weigh the consequences of giving a dog this vaccination which only lasts
a few months against actual risk. Does living in a city which had one case
of the disorder warrant getting the multiple Lepto shots? That is up to you
to decide.

This is a good vet and she is probably a victim of the pharmaceutical
industry, but at the same time a statement like this is irresponsible. If
this were actually a 'new' strain, trust me you would know because many more
than one would have been affected.

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by KauilaPo » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 00:47:12


Dear Dr.J,

Since I myself had no way of knowing how true the information I found on this
issue was I made a point of including my source in case the orig. poster wanted
to dig into it further.
Why anyone would want to start a rumor about a 'new parvo virus' is beyond me.
The old one was bad enough.

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by J. Marti » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 01:17:20


Quote:
> For instance a vet in NY currently has the following message in her office"

> Canine Medical Alert
> Leptospirosis
> A new strain of a severe bacterial disease called Leptospirosis has recently
> been affecting dogs in New York. Leptospirosis is frequently fatal, causing
> sudden kidney and liver failure in dogs. The disease is contagious to
> humans. It is transmitted when a dog swallows water that has been
> contaminated by the urine of...'

I appreciate your concerns about vaccinating for leptospirosis.  The portion of
the notice you described above does not mention vaccinating - perhaps it was
mentioned further on.  I do think it is important for the public to be aware of
the sudden emergence of "new" serovars of leptospirosis in NE US.  Lepto is a
curable disease if recognized and treated early. Public awareness will increae
the chance of early recognition.  My son was recently in hospital for 2 weeks
with an unexplained apparent kidney infection.  His doctors could not figure out
what was happening.  When I asked about testing and treating presumptively for
lepto I was completely blown off.  I was told it only occurs in tropical
climates - the doctors were not aware of the increasing incidence of this
zoonotic disease in our area.  His ***work and clinical signs were partially
consistent with lepto and there was no evidence to rule it out.  Treatment had
to be instituted immediately to be effective if he indeed had lepto.  I was only
able to convince them to presumptively treat after I insisted on having his
serum sent to a veterinary lab for lepto titres at my own expense.  Later they
decided to send the serum to a human lab instead and results take about 4 weeks
(would have had results in 5 days if I had the vet lab run them.).  He's doing
well now and if it turns out he had lepto I expect I will be spreading the word
about lepto to everyone I meet.  I'll vaccinate my dogs with the new vaccine as
well.

J.

J.

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by WalterN » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 01:38:06


Quote:
> I appreciate your concerns about vaccinating for Leptospirosis.  The
portion of
> the notice you described above does not mention vaccinating - perhaps it
was
> mentioned further on.

Yes, I did not post the entire message which urged vaccination.

Quote:
>  Lepto is a
> curable disease if recognized and treated early.

Lepto is very curable but the veterinary world funded by t he pharmaceutical
industry wants us to believe that only vaccinations save us from lepto.

Quote:
>When I asked about testing and treating presumptively for
> lepto I was completely blown off.

Should this attitude amongst the "dogma" of medical practitioners not be
expected?

Quote:
>I was told it only occurs in tropical
> climates

This is the same excuse they give about parasites yet is it estimated that
anywhere from 40%-60% of people in the US have them.

Quote:
>the doctors were not aware of the increasing incidence of this
> zoonotic disease in our area.

Curious? What made you aware?

Quote:
>He's doing
> well now and if it turns out he had lepto

I'm glad to hear that.
 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by Gary » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 00:34:10


I agree...And I don't think muck of Amber Technology...Cornel University posted
something in'98' discussing this as being a myth...I know we have some Vets who
post here...How about an educated answer from them...It seems NG's are great
sources of wrong information much of the time and that information is sourced by
internet searching...GG
Quote:

> The "F strain parvo" internet myth made its rounds in 1998 as well.  It wasn't
> true then so I doubt it's true this time.

> J.


> > Seems indeed there is a new "mutation" of the parvo virus. Here is more
> > information on it:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------------------------------
> > F-Strain Virus

> > There is a recent mutation of the parvo virus which is more virulent. It
> > attacks the lower intestinal tract or large intestine. Dogs contracting this
> > new strain will have accelerated symptoms. Care should be given immediately!

> > Symptoms to watch for:
> > Gelatin-like stool with some ***.
> > Vomiting with bile and foam.
> > Rapid weight loss (within a few hours after becoming ill.)

> > *
> > Amber Technology
> > 3814 W. Scranton Dr.
> > West Jordan, Utah  84084

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by dogsn » Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:46:05



Quote:
>I agree...And I don't think muck of Amber Technology...Cornel University
>posted something in'98' discussing this as being a myth...I know we have
>some Vets who post here...How about an educated answer from them...It
>seems NG's are great sources of wrong information much of the time and
>that information is sourced by internet searching..

Don't tell Elame. She's already armed with another excuse to put down
and eat a dog. She will probably wet her panties before she sells
them on eBay.

Terri

 
 
 

New Parvo Virus (F-Strain Virus)

Post by Patc » Mon, 09 Apr 2001 12:46:05



Quote:

> >I agree...And I don't think muck of Amber Technology...Cornel University
> >posted something in'98' discussing this as being a myth...I know we have
> >some Vets who post here...How about an educated answer from them...It
> >seems NG's are great sources of wrong information much of the time and
> >that information is sourced by internet searching..

> Don't tell Elame. She's already armed with another excuse to put down
> and eat a dog. She will probably wet her panties before she sells
> them on eBay.

> Terri

You mean she doesn't mind paying for knickers that must rot when she talks ?
Rotting knickers = $ = OK
Dying pup    = $ = No way.
Sounds about right.
Patch