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Post by Son of S » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00



I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my patience and may
take drastic measures.

I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also dogsits for other
people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something, but
never does.  

This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.  

I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation, so it just continues.

Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the neighbor?

Son

 
 
 

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Post by Elaine Galleg » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


 Take it to noise abatement. You really have to be a squeeky wheel, but
they will help if you are extra annoying. Your neighbor doesn't respect
you NOW. I can't imagine things getting much worse if you take official
action.


: I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my patience and may
: take drastic measures.

: I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also dogsits for other
: people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something, but
: never does.  

: This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.  

: I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation, so it just continues.

: Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the neighbor?

: Son

 
 
 

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Post by John Galbreath Jr » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my patience and may
> take drastic measures.

> I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also dogsits for other
> people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something, but
> never does.

> This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.

> I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation, so it just continues.

> Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the neighbor?

> Son

Call you local city hall and see if there are local ordinances on the
books the cover this, if so, call them and let them do their job.  A
friend of mine had the same problem, but with only one dog.  He bought
one of the "shock type" bark control collars and placed it in their
mailbox with a note that said "From a sleepless neighbor".  They got the
message.
--
John Galbreath Jr.
Www.FireLogs.com
http://www.FireLogs.com

 
 
 

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Post by Gwen Mille » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Before you take "drastic measures" here's some info I found out when I
lived in Texas.  The laws where I lived would make me "compensate" for any
damage done to my neighbors dog.  * This dog ATTACKED the fence between our
yards everytime I went into my backyard.  I was scared the fence would come
down. *  Also, if their dog _knocked_ the fence down and came into my yard
... it was ILLEGAL for me to shoot/damage it while it was on MY property!!
The ONLY way I could LEGALLY kill the dog was if it was in _my_ yard AND
was mauling me!!

Now, how to handle your situation.  
1)  See if you have any noise control ordinances in your community and see
if your neighbor is breaking them.  If so, contact the proper authorities
and file a complaint.  
2) Try your homeowners association, see if there are "deed restrictions"
concerning pets and home businesses.
3) Contact your local animal control department and ask THEM what YOUR
rights are concerning this matter.  * Be prepared for an answer of "NONE" *
4) Go digging through obscure local/state laws to see if there is anything
restricting the number of animal/livestock allowed in your area  ** you
would be suprised at what this turns up! **
5) Turn your stereo up to an obnoxious level at 3am.

If the neighbor gets upset with you for any reason ... remind them that you
have asked repeatedly for them to do something about the noise.

Hope this helps!
        G.



Quote:
> I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my patience
and may
> take drastic measures.

> I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also dogsits
for other
> people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her

politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something, but

Quote:
> never does.  

> This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.  

> I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation,

so it just continues.
Quote:

> Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the
neighbor?

> Son

 
 
 

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Post by Grim Reap » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my patience and may
>take drastic measures.

>I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also dogsits for other
>people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something, but
>never does.  

>This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.  

>I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation, so it just continues.

>Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the neighbor?

Well, she obviously isn't a very good neighbor if she refuses to control her
dogs.  Time for you to show her you can be a "bad" neighbor too.

Retaliation will end you up in jail probably.  Is it worth it over 2 stupid
dogs?  You WILL get caught doing something dumb.

Call the police.  Tell them you are sorry, but this has been going on for 2
years and you are embarrassed to call them over dogs - but have no choice
anymore.

They will gladly come out and talk to the lady (well, maybe not gladly...).

If this STILL doesn't work, keep calling the police.  They'll get tired of it
too.  Ask them what can be done so you don't have to keep calling them.  They'll
tell you where to go from here.

Does she need or require a special license to keep a certain number of dogs at
her home?  If she is running a "dogsitting business" on the side, you may have
recourse here.  EPA regulations, BOH restrictions on # of animals, etc.

Another option may be the local animal control officer, or the SPCA.

Yes, you will permanently***of your neighbor.  So what?  She doesn't care
that she's pissing you off.

 
 
 

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Post by Mat » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my patience and may
>take drastic measures.

>I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also dogsits for other
>people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something, but
>never does.  

>This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.  

>I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation, so it just continues.

>Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the neighbor?

Civility is all done if she promises to fix it but has not in 2 years.

I was animal control officer for a while, one of the things we did was
issue citations for disturbing the peace - they'll add up pretty fast
if you call all the time.

  Matt

  Eagles may soar, but Turkeys don't get sucked into jet engines.

 
 
 

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Post by Boff Jimmi » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


[snip]

Quote:
>5) Turn your stereo up to an obnoxious level at 3am.

He asked for help.  Not how to***off the police and other neighbors AND get
himself in trouble.
 
 
 

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Post by Theron Hick » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Take a tape recorder and tape the neighbors dogs barking at full blast.  Call the
neighbor at 3:00 AM.  When they answer play the recording back.  They will get the
message.  Note: if they have caller ID, you can always drive to a pay phone.

Quote:


> [snip]

> >5) Turn your stereo up to an obnoxious level at 3am.

> He asked for help.  Not how to***off the police and other neighbors AND get
> himself in trouble.

 
 
 

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Post by Kirk Kerek » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00




. I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my
patience and may
. take drastic measures.
.
. I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also
dogsits for other
. people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her
politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something,
but
. never does.  
.
. This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.  
.
. I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation,
so it just continues.
.
. Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the
neighbor?

1. You don't _have_ civil relations with that neighbor. She isn't being
civil at all.

2. Notify her _in_writing_ that you insist that she control her dogs
within the limits of your local noise control ordinances or you will be
_forced_ to report her to whatever enforcement officials are relevent. Be
sure to set a specific but reasonable deadline (say, a week), and a
specific but reasonable standard of performance (number of barks allowed
between 9PM and 8AM, or whatever is specified in the noise ordinance).
_Mail_ the notice, with a return receipt so you have proof of delivery.
Make certain that you keep a copy of the notice, preferably a photocopy of
the notice along with the stamped envelope addressed to your neighbor.
When you get the return receipt back from the PO, staple it to the
photocopy and file the set

3. If she does not comply, be true to your word. Call the enforcement
people and ride them until something is done. It can help to tape the
barking, so you can play it back over the phone to define what you mean by
"loud and constantly". Don't forget that you can use a camcorder or VCR to
record sound, if you don't happen to have an audio recorder.

--
Kirk and Diane Kerekes/Red Gate Ranch
X-Face by "Saving Face" <http://www.santafe.edu/~smfr/utils.html>

 
 
 

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Post by John Eyl » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


*** the dog, put an anti-bark shocking collar on it for a
little while, the problem should be permanently cured (from
what I've heard).  My vet does not believe these collars
are inhumane, and I've heard once a dog barks once or twice
with one, it's not likely to bark again anytime soon.
Doesn't really sound that humane, does it ?  But more humane
than a bullet or dose of posion I guess.

Good luck.  I can relate.

 
 
 

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Post by WebbWea » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Two years, and only just now you decide to go crazy? Wow -- you have phenomenal
staying power. Call the animal control people.
When Moon was a puppy, she stayed with a dogsitter a few times -- always came
back smelling like salad because the woman spritzed so much vinegar water to
keep the kids quiet. She was on the spot all the time, though -- and had
neighbors.
You might suggest that the people stay outside with the dogs, and correct the
barking....
Jane Webb
Moon and Muddy

 
 
 

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Post by WebbWea » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
Ask them what can be done so you don't have to keep calling them.  They'll
tell you where to go from here.

Hee hee
No doubt!
Jane Webb
M&M

 
 
 

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Post by Nels M. Hanse » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


If your doggy neighbor is "babysitting dogs for profit" you may wish to
check with City Hall.  Many cities have ordinances which prohibit "home
occupations" without a conditional use permit.
It won't hurt to try!
------------------------------------------
Nels Hansen
in Beautiful Central Oregon
------------------------------------------



Quote:
> I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my patience
and may
> take drastic measures.

> I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also dogsits
for other
> people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her

politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something, but

Quote:
> never does.  

> This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.  

> I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation,

so it just continues.
Quote:

> Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the
neighbor?

> Son

 
 
 

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Post by Josh Dubnic » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00


How about duct tape?  :)

Quote:



> . I am asking this anonymously because I am reaching the end of my
> patience and may
> . take drastic measures.
> .
> . I have a next door neighbor with two dogs of her own and she also
> dogsits for other
> . people.  All these dogs bark loud and constantly.  I've spoken to her
> politely about it.  She always apologizes and promises to do something,
> but
> . never does.
> .
> . This has been going on for two years.  It's driving me crazy.
> .
> . I don't want to create neighborhood hostility and possible retaliation,
> so it just continues.
> .
> . Does anybody know a way to handle this and keep civil relations with the
> neighbor?

> 1. You don't _have_ civil relations with that neighbor. She isn't being
> civil at all.

> 2. Notify her _in_writing_ that you insist that she control her dogs
> within the limits of your local noise control ordinances or you will be
> _forced_ to report her to whatever enforcement officials are relevent. Be
> sure to set a specific but reasonable deadline (say, a week), and a
> specific but reasonable standard of performance (number of barks allowed
> between 9PM and 8AM, or whatever is specified in the noise ordinance).
> _Mail_ the notice, with a return receipt so you have proof of delivery.
> Make certain that you keep a copy of the notice, preferably a photocopy of
> the notice along with the stamped envelope addressed to your neighbor.
> When you get the return receipt back from the PO, staple it to the
> photocopy and file the set

> 3. If she does not comply, be true to your word. Call the enforcement
> people and ride them until something is done. It can help to tape the
> barking, so you can play it back over the phone to define what you mean by
> "loud and constantly". Don't forget that you can use a camcorder or VCR to
> record sound, if you don't happen to have an audio recorder.

> --
> Kirk and Diane Kerekes/Red Gate Ranch
> X-Face by "Saving Face" <http://www.santafe.edu/~smfr/utils.html>