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I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by Adrienne Caldwel » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Well it looks like we're all still here.  Electricity is running.  I've
had tons of champagne (two glasses which is enough to make me lose my
balance) and I couldn't resist logging on to see whether or not rpdb
would have any y2k glitches.

Why are other people here?  John R., Theresa, Dogman, Elaine.  Well
Happy New Year Everyone.  I guess we now have to wait and see whether
things on the small business end suffer from y2k.

The dogs didn't get champagne.  Just pigs ears : )  Then on the way home
they played in the frost that settled on the grass - Lewis with his
rocks, Freneau retrieving his sticks, Gremlin growling at everyone, Yoko
growling at Gremlin and Bruno chasing rocks.  They all had smiles on
their faces.

Just think - we now will be ending anything dated with 2000 and we lived
to tell about it.  Later Folks (going back in my tunnel : ).

--
Adrienne
Gremlin, Bruno, Lewis, Yoko, Freneau

John Muir, "Stickeen: The Story of a Dog"
http://www.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/writings/stickeen/the_sto...

(In memory of Pepe, Pepper, Cinder, Rascal, Tucker, Max, Hubble and
Puppy)

 
 
 

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Post by Denna Pa » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Happy drunken new year, Adrienne, and an equally happy hangover! ;-)  

Denna

On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 01:50:24 -0500, Adrienne Caldwell

Quote:

>Well it looks like we're all still here.  Electricity is running.  I've
>had tons of champagne (two glasses which is enough to make me lose my
>balance) and I couldn't resist logging on to see whether or not rpdb
>would have any y2k glitches.

>Why are other people here?  John R., Theresa, Dogman, Elaine.  Well
>Happy New Year Everyone.  I guess we now have to wait and see whether
>things on the small business end suffer from y2k.

>The dogs didn't get champagne.  Just pigs ears : )  Then on the way home
>they played in the frost that settled on the grass - Lewis with his
>rocks, Freneau retrieving his sticks, Gremlin growling at everyone, Yoko
>growling at Gremlin and Bruno chasing rocks.  They all had smiles on
>their faces.

>Just think - we now will be ending anything dated with 2000 and we lived
>to tell about it.  Later Folks (going back in my tunnel : ).

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I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by Dogma » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


[...]

Quote:
>Why are other people here?  John R., Theresa, Dogman, Elaine.  Well
>Happy New Year Everyone.

Yeah, Happy New Year to you, too, Adrienne.

I was here because I wanted to be close to my firearms if and when the
shit hit the fan.

With firearms, you see, you can get all the fresh water, food, money,
clothes, etc. that you need.

Quote:
>I guess we now have to wait and see whether
>things on the small business end suffer from y2k.

Nah.

It's over.

Quote:
>The dogs didn't get champagne.  

Mine did...all of them.

I guess that's why they're all sleeping in this morning...

--

Dogman

http://www.i1.net/~dogman

For everything you've ever wanted to know about Jerry Howe
and other trolls and scumbags, go here:
http://www.i1.net/~dogman/trolls.html

Nicholas Regush/ABC News column - Top 5 Predictions... of 2000 !
http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/living/secondopinion/secondopinio...

"Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by
questioning answers."   Bernhard Haisch

 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by Adrienne Caldwel » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Yeah, Happy New Year to you, too, Adrienne.

Thanks.

Quote:
> I was here because I wanted to be close to my firearms if and when the
> shit hit the fan.

> With firearms, you see, you can get all the fresh water, food, money,
> clothes, etc. that you need.

I meant here in rpdb land - not here as in still alive.  Or maybe you
understood that and meant firearms in the metaphorical sense.

Quote:
> >I guess we now have to wait and see whether
> >things on the small business end suffer from y2k.

> Nah.

> It's over.

And there's still a note posted on my elevator that our superintendent has
been equiped with a "y2k emergency preparedness kit," including first aid, a
cpr kit, etc.  Funny isn't it?

Quote:
> >The dogs didn't get champagne.

> Mine did...all of them.

> I guess that's why they're all sleeping in this morning...

Maybe I shoulda tried that.
--
Adrienne
Gremlin, Bruno, Lewis, Yoko, Freneau
 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by Dogma » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


>> Yeah, Happy New Year to you, too, Adrienne.

>Thanks.

>> I was here because I wanted to be close to my firearms if and when the
>> shit hit the fan.

>> With firearms, you see, you can get all the fresh water, food, money,
>> clothes, etc. that you need.

>I meant here in rpdb land - not here as in still alive.  Or maybe you
>understood that and meant firearms in the metaphorical sense.

Here as in *home* (and not out celebrating), as in where the computer
is, as in where I was last night -- i.e., here, and on the computer,
and on r.p.d.b. -- I left a nice drunken trail, eh?

Home, of course, is also where the *firearms* are -- just in case.

Quote:
>> >I guess we now have to wait and see whether
>> >things on the small business end suffer from y2k.

>> Nah.

>> It's over.

>And there's still a note posted on my elevator that our superintendent has
>been equiped with a "y2k emergency preparedness kit," including first aid, a
>cpr kit, etc.  Funny isn't it?

Yes, it is, in a strange kind of way.

I wonder if it was all worth it (hundreds of billions of dollars)?

But then again, maybe that's exactly why there were virtually no
problems -- i.e., that all the effort was indeed worth it?

Who knows?

Quote:
>> >The dogs didn't get champagne.

>> Mine did...all of them.

>> I guess that's why they're all sleeping in this morning...

>Maybe I shoulda tried that.

I think your dogs hoped you would have.

:>)

--

Dogman

http://www.i1.net/~dogman

For everything you've ever wanted to know about Jerry Howe
and other trolls and scumbags, go here:
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Nicholas Regush/ABC News column - Top 5 Predictions... of 2000 !
http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/living/secondopinion/secondopinio...

"Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by
questioning answers."   Bernhard Haisch

 
 
 

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Post by Adrienne Caldwel » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Adrienne writes:

> :Why are other people here?  John R.,
> :Theresa, Dogman, Elaine.

> Midnight is a pretty normal time for
> my to be posting, and not going out
> is a pretty normal thing for me to be
> doing on New Year's Eve, which has
> always struck me as a pretty lame
> holiday.

Mario and I just had an argument about that yesterday.  While I
genenerally like to be at home on New Year's Eve, I still like to
celebrate in one way or another - if I don't I sorta feel like I'm
missing something.  Mario on the other hand has the same opinion as you
and thinks its a corny, stupid and lame holiday : (  I guess I have the
attitude that I have since my parents always made a big deal about
holidays - always tons of friends, relatives, screaming, laughing,
banging pots and pans, dancing around (we knew it was silly but reveled
in the just another excuse to be ridiculous sort of thing).  So its hard
to just go from that to absolutely nothing.

--
Adrienne
Gremlin, Bruno, Lewis, Yoko, Freneau

 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by buglad » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


OK, Thanks!

buglady
take out the dog before replying

Everyone

Quote:
>I know in the industry has been working on this bug in one way or another.
>So, when nothing happens, we blame the media for the hype and say it was
>never a big deal at all.  Maybe instead, we should be saying a huge THANK
>YOU!!!! to the real  Y2K experts out there

 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by Dogma » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


[...]

Quote:
> And while this same world was out partying, the techies of the world
>were spending the night in computer rooms, and even on a multinational
>conference call for 24 hours solid, monitoring things as they happened on
>the internet and around the world.

>Sorry for the rant, but this is a sore spot with me and not directed
>directly at you dogman, so dont take my ranting personally please.  Just
>think about it people.

Marissa, didn't you read this part:

Quote:
>>But then again, maybe that's exactly why there were virtually no
>>problems -- i.e., that all the effort was indeed worth it?

I think I gave them credit enough.

By the way, if they hadn't screwed all this up in the first place
(using only two fields to designate the year, instead of four, etc.),
the world wouldn't have needed "saving," would it?

There's a name for those hundreds and hundreds of *billions* of
dollars that was spent world-wide to fix the problem that *they*
created in the first place.

It's called the C.O.B.O.L. Programmers Retirement and Social Security
Fund.

Please excuse me if I don't exactly feel sorry for them, okay?

I think they should all be pistol-whipped myself.

But that's just my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

Quote:
>--Merissa





>> >> Yeah, Happy New Year to you, too, Adrienne.
[...]
>> I wonder if it was all worth it (hundreds of billions of dollars)?

>> But then again, maybe that's exactly why there were virtually no
>> problems -- i.e., that all the effort was indeed worth it?

--

Dogman

http://www.i1.net/~dogman

For everything you've ever wanted to know about Jerry Howe
and other trolls and scumbags, go here:
http://www.i1.net/~dogman/trolls.html

Nicholas Regush/ABC News column - Top 5 Predictions... of 2000 !
http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/living/secondopinion/secondopinio...

"Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by
questioning answers."   Bernhard Haisch

 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by Adrienne Caldwel » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> [...]
> > And while this same world was out partying, the techies of the world
> >were spending the night in computer rooms, and even on a multinational
> >conference call for 24 hours solid, monitoring things as they happened on
> >the internet and around the world.
> By the way, if they hadn't screwed all this up in the first place
> (using only two fields to designate the year, instead of four, etc.),
> the world wouldn't have needed "saving," would it?

Actually we have Bill Gates and his shoddy rip offs of the Mac OS to thank for
a lot of this.  The techies were the ones cleaning up the mess he created by
his greed.  To illustrate Bill Gates' greed I will give one sample of
Microsoft's y2k compliance and another of Apples.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/year2k/tools/hardware.htm

Quote:
> A key part of preparing your computing environment for the turn of the century is knowing what
> RTC/BIOS will do at the century rollover and what the RTC/BIOS will do as it performs Power On
> Self Tests (POST) after the rollover. Heres an overview of where to begin your RTC/BIOS Y2K
> remediation on specific Microsoft products:

> For Microsoft DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 95 and Windows 98 the risk is based on the BIOS
> for date/time information. Windows users should reset the date in Control Panelthe
> machine's BIOS and operating system should then maintain the date properly.
> Newer Microsoft operating systems such as NT 3.51 SP5, NT 4 SP4 and Windows 98 have
> logic built in to manage most Y2K- BIOS/RTC issues, but its wise to test them anyway.

> Note: For Microsoft NT 3.51 and 4.0 the RTC must be examined. When the Windows? NT
> operating system starts up, it directly accesses the RTCs memory and uses its time and date
> values to set the system time and date. Whenever Windows NT reads dates between 1900 and
> 1919 in the RTC it adds 100 to the year in the system. In effect, it maps the time period forward
> to 2000 ? 2019. Windows NT does not add 100 to dates between 1921 and 1999.

So now you see that our lovely Bill Gates was so greedy that he couldn't even
take the time to make his operating systems y2k compliant in 98.

By contrast here is a sample of a company that knows what its doing and takes
pride in its products (Apple) -

http://www.apple.com/about/year2000/

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> Year 2000 Readiness Disclosure

> We may not have got everything right, but at least we
> knew the century was going to end.?

> Douglas Adams

> Computer systems that cannot correctly process dates
> beyond 2000 are at risk of failure one second after
> midnight on December 31, 1999.

> The good news is that since their introduction in 1984,
> Macintosh computers have had the ability to make the
> transition to the year 2000. In fact, the Mac OS and
> most Mac applications can handle internally generated
> dates correctly all the way to the year 29,940.

> There's a name for those hundreds and hundreds of *billions* of
> dollars that was spent world-wide to fix the problem that *they*
> created in the first place.

Yes.  The name is Bill Gates.

Quote:
> Please excuse me if I don't exactly feel sorry for them, okay?

> I think they should all be pistol-whipped myself.

I think Bill Gates should be pistol-whipped.  I loved it when he had a pie
thrown in his face in Europe : )
--
Adrienne
Gremlin, Bruno, Lewis, Yoko, Freneau
 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by John F Richards » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
Adrienne writes:

:Why are other people here?  John R.,
:Theresa, Dogman, Elaine.

Midnight is a pretty normal time for
my to be posting, and not going out
is a pretty normal thing for me to be
doing on New Year's Eve, which has
always struck me as a pretty lame
holiday.

JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian

Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!

 
 
 

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Post by Merissa Rozmiersk » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


The question of whether it was all worth it was the one thing that got me
going today.  You see, I do computer security--not even Y2K work...I
specialize in catching hackers and preventing them in the first place.  But
I logged many many hours at many many client sites doing y2k work.  Everyone
I know in the industry has been working on this bug in one way or another.
So, when nothing happens, we blame the media for the hype and say it was
never a big deal at all.  Maybe instead, we should be saying a huge THANK
YOU!!!! to the real  Y2K experts out there, who are soon out of a job, and
managed to save the world in a very real way.  The bug was there.  It was
real.  And while this same world was out partying, the techies of the world
were spending the night in computer rooms, and even on a multinational
conference call for 24 hours solid, monitoring things as they happened on
the internet and around the world.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a sore spot with me and not directed
directly at you dogman, so dont take my ranting personally please.  Just
think about it people.

(and now back to our dog related flamewars ;-)

--Merissa


Quote:


> >> Yeah, Happy New Year to you, too, Adrienne.

> >Thanks.

> >> I was here because I wanted to be close to my firearms if and when the
> >> shit hit the fan.

> >> With firearms, you see, you can get all the fresh water, food, money,
> >> clothes, etc. that you need.

> >I meant here in rpdb land - not here as in still alive.  Or maybe you
> >understood that and meant firearms in the metaphorical sense.

> Here as in *home* (and not out celebrating), as in where the computer
> is, as in where I was last night -- i.e., here, and on the computer,
> and on r.p.d.b. -- I left a nice drunken trail, eh?

> Home, of course, is also where the *firearms* are -- just in case.

> >> >I guess we now have to wait and see whether
> >> >things on the small business end suffer from y2k.

> >> Nah.

> >> It's over.

> >And there's still a note posted on my elevator that our superintendent
has
> >been equiped with a "y2k emergency preparedness kit," including first
aid, a
> >cpr kit, etc.  Funny isn't it?

> Yes, it is, in a strange kind of way.

> I wonder if it was all worth it (hundreds of billions of dollars)?

> But then again, maybe that's exactly why there were virtually no
> problems -- i.e., that all the effort was indeed worth it?

> Who knows?

> >> >The dogs didn't get champagne.

> >> Mine did...all of them.

> >> I guess that's why they're all sleeping in this morning...

> >Maybe I shoulda tried that.

> I think your dogs hoped you would have.

> :>)

> --

> Dogman

> http://www.i1.net/~dogman

> For everything you've ever wanted to know about Jerry Howe
> and other trolls and scumbags, go here:
> http://www.i1.net/~dogman/trolls.html

> Nicholas Regush/ABC News column - Top 5 Predictions... of 2000 !

http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/living/secondopinion/secondopinio...

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

> "Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by
> questioning answers."   Bernhard Haisch

 
 
 

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Post by Merissa Rozmiersk » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


actually, yes, it was a huge***up and those who wrote the operating
systems probably SHOULD be pistol whipped.  BUT...the people, that worked to
fix it are mostly in their early to mid 20's and were not around when the
operating systems were written.  They simply cleaned up the mess.  THey will
probably make their own messes, but this one wasnt theirs.

--Merissa


Quote:

> [...]
> > And while this same world was out partying, the techies of the world
> >were spending the night in computer rooms, and even on a multinational
> >conference call for 24 hours solid, monitoring things as they happened on
> >the internet and around the world.

> >Sorry for the rant, but this is a sore spot with me and not directed
> >directly at you dogman, so dont take my ranting personally please.  Just
> >think about it people.

> Marissa, didn't you read this part:

> >>But then again, maybe that's exactly why there were virtually no
> >>problems -- i.e., that all the effort was indeed worth it?

> I think I gave them credit enough.

> By the way, if they hadn't screwed all this up in the first place
> (using only two fields to designate the year, instead of four, etc.),
> the world wouldn't have needed "saving," would it?

> There's a name for those hundreds and hundreds of *billions* of
> dollars that was spent world-wide to fix the problem that *they*
> created in the first place.

> It's called the C.O.B.O.L. Programmers Retirement and Social Security
> Fund.

> Please excuse me if I don't exactly feel sorry for them, okay?

> I think they should all be pistol-whipped myself.

> But that's just my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

> >--Merissa





> >> >> Yeah, Happy New Year to you, too, Adrienne.
> [...]
> >> I wonder if it was all worth it (hundreds of billions of dollars)?

> >> But then again, maybe that's exactly why there were virtually no
> >> problems -- i.e., that all the effort was indeed worth it?

> --

> Dogman

> http://www.moonsgarden.com/~dogman

> For everything you've ever wanted to know about Jerry Howe
> and other trolls and scumbags, go here:
> http://www.moonsgarden.com/~dogman/trolls.html

> Nicholas Regush/ABC News column - Top 5 Predictions... of 2000 !

http://www.moonsgarden.com/

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

> "Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by
> questioning answers."   Bernhard Haisch

 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by Merissa Rozmiersk » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


hehe, and I was just talking of UNIX...Bill Gates should be drawn and
quartered...that man is pure greed.

Merissa


Quote:


> > [...]
> > > And while this same world was out partying, the techies of the world
> > >were spending the night in computer rooms, and even on a multinational
> > >conference call for 24 hours solid, monitoring things as they happened
on
> > >the internet and around the world.

> > By the way, if they hadn't screwed all this up in the first place
> > (using only two fields to designate the year, instead of four, etc.),
> > the world wouldn't have needed "saving," would it?

> Actually we have Bill Gates and his shoddy rip offs of the Mac OS to thank
for
> a lot of this.  The techies were the ones cleaning up the mess he created
by
> his greed.  To illustrate Bill Gates' greed I will give one sample of
> Microsoft's y2k compliance and another of Apples.

> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/year2k/tools/hardware.htm

> > A key part of preparing your computing environment for the turn of the

century is knowing what
Quote:
> > RTC/BIOS will do at the century rollover and what the RTC/BIOS will do

as it performs Power On
Quote:
> > Self Tests (POST) after the rollover. Heres an overview of where to

begin your RTC/BIOS Y2K

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> > remediation on specific Microsoft products:

> > For Microsoft DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 95 and Windows 98 the risk is
based on the BIOS
> > for date/time information. Windows users should reset the date in
Control Panelthe
> > machine's BIOS and operating system should then maintain the date
properly.
> > Newer Microsoft operating systems such as NT 3.51 SP5, NT 4 SP4 and
Windows 98 have
> > logic built in to manage most Y2K- BIOS/RTC issues, but its wise to
test them anyway.

> > Note: For Microsoft NT 3.51 and 4.0 the RTC must be examined. When the
Windows? NT
> > operating system starts up, it directly accesses the RTCs memory and

uses its time and date
Quote:
> > values to set the system time and date. Whenever Windows NT reads dates
between 1900 and
> > 1919 in the RTC it adds 100 to the year in the system. In effect, it

maps the time period forward

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> > to 2000 ? 2019. Windows NT does not add 100 to dates between 1921 and
1999.

> So now you see that our lovely Bill Gates was so greedy that he couldn't
even
> take the time to make his operating systems y2k compliant in 98.

> By contrast here is a sample of a company that knows what its doing and
takes
> pride in its products (Apple) -

> http://www.apple.com/about/year2000/

> > Year 2000 Readiness Disclosure

> > We may not have got everything right, but at least we
> > knew the century was going to end.?

> > Douglas Adams

> > Computer systems that cannot correctly process dates
> > beyond 2000 are at risk of failure one second after
> > midnight on December 31, 1999.

> > The good news is that since their introduction in 1984,
> > Macintosh computers have had the ability to make the
> > transition to the year 2000. In fact, the Mac OS and
> > most Mac applications can handle internally generated
> > dates correctly all the way to the year 29,940.

> > There's a name for those hundreds and hundreds of *billions* of
> > dollars that was spent world-wide to fix the problem that *they*
> > created in the first place.

> Yes.  The name is Bill Gates.

> > Please excuse me if I don't exactly feel sorry for them, okay?

> > I think they should all be pistol-whipped myself.

> I think Bill Gates should be pistol-whipped.  I loved it when he had a pie
> thrown in his face in Europe : )
> --
> Adrienne
> Gremlin, Bruno, Lewis, Yoko, Freneau

 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by dogsnu » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:



> > [...]
> > > And while this same world was out partying, the techies of the world
> > >were spending the night in computer rooms, and even on a multinational
> > >conference call for 24 hours solid, monitoring things as they happened on
> > >the internet and around the world.

> > By the way, if they hadn't screwed all this up in the first place
> > (using only two fields to designate the year, instead of four, etc.),
> > the world wouldn't have needed "saving," would it?

> Actually we have Bill Gates and his shoddy rip offs of the Mac OS to thank for
> a lot of this.  The techies were the ones cleaning up the mess he created by
> his greed.  To illustrate Bill Gates' greed I will give one sample of
> Microsoft's y2k compliance and another of Apples.

snip
n 1921 and 1999.
Quote:

> So now you see that our lovely Bill Gates was so greedy that he couldn't even
> take the time to make his operating systems y2k compliant in 98.

Have you heard the buzz about the guy in San
Francisco being taken to court
by Microsoft about his new song entitled, "Bill
Gates Must Die"?
Saw it on CNN last week.
Bill doesn't appear to have a lot of admirers.
Terri
 
 
 

I'm Drunk - Happy New Year

Post by dogsnu » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Adrienne writes:

> :Why are other people here?  John R.,
> :Theresa, Dogman, Elaine.

> Midnight is a pretty normal time for
> my to be posting, and not going out
> is a pretty normal thing for me to be
> doing on New Year's Eve, which has
> always struck me as a pretty lame
> holiday.

Here at the home, we usually can't even
stay awake long enough to watch the New Year
come in!
:)
We have some special snacks, like Hickory Farms
or something,  but basically , that's about
the extent of our revelry.
Although, this year we did catch Great Britian's
fireworks display. By far the best, IMO. 40 tons
of fireworks lasting over 15 solid minutes.
Awesome display. Even better than the display over
the pyramids!
Of course, that was being shown in their time
zone, so it showed up here around 6pm or so.

Terri