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Post by The Puppy Wizar » Mon, 23 Jun 2003 05:14:15



HOWEDY matty,

The off topic posts are intended to OBSCURE
 contradictory discussions abHOWET you
KNOW who... figger it HOWET.

disciple cris has been doin that since DAY WON.

The Puppy Wizard. <}; - )  >


Quote:
> Marcel Beaudoin said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

> > My copy should be in my hands by this time tomorrow.

> Thread drift is one thing.  Why are you *initiating* such a
> potentially huge off-topic subject?

> --
> --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

 
 
 

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Post by The Puppy Wizar » Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:30:02


HOWEDY Katra,


Quote:
> Let's repair your spelling and grammer to make
> your post readable shall we???

Yes indeedy, and I'm trying to work on that top
postin behavior problem, to boot. Was you able
to do anything abHOWEt them embarrassing
cross posts?

See, bottom posting is scary, cause sometimes
folks don't scroll dHOWEn far enough to notice
the pertinent text. Of curse, here we trim text
so folks won't be able to follow the discussion
and notice HOWER lies and doubletalk. Like
when marybeth quoted only a few words HOWETA
GIGABITE TEXT discussions.

Quote:
> K.


> > HOWDY matty,

> > The off topic posts are intended to OBSCURE
> >  contradictory discussions about you
> > know who... figger it out.

> > disciple cris has been doin that since DAY ONE.

> > The Puppy Wizard. <}; - )  >

THANKS Katra,

The Puppy Wizard offered to PAY HOWER good professor lyin
doc SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into its face for 5
seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes reflection" dermer,
to fully edit The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual...

He sez it's too WORDY.  Seems he got confHOWEnded at
the part of the introductin where The Puppy Wizard blames
the miserable state of the art of behaviorISM on HOWER
university trained animal abusers.

Thanks again, The Puppy Wizard. <}; - )  >


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> I haven't quite finished reading the free chapter on
> your website,

It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive,
total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals
to any level you desire.

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> but it already worked miracles with our three dogs.

Excellent.

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> The barking at the door has diminished so much
> that, well, frankly, we're stunned.

My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at
any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade
static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch
***collars our "experts" here love so much.

Quote:
> We were sort of on the same page with you to begin
> with (no crates, no ***chains).

Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're
misused.

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> A lot of what you say reminds of my dad's techniques
> (he's an 84 year old dog lover,one of those about whom
> people say, "dogs really like him." He's
> never had a badly behaved dog.

Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle
and treat animals kindly.

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> We'd never heard of the noise emphasis,

You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques.

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> but the overall plan makes great sense.

Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post
recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the
distraction and praise process works from his POV as an
experience handler using my methods.

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> I did have a question.  The hardest part for us to
> implement is the verbal praise only.

Why? That should be spontaneous and in association
with every glance towards you and every thought.

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> It's so hard not to pet and stroke the dog (especially
> our seven month old).

Oh. Pattng is O.K., only not in conjunction with a
thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought
process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an
inappropriate idea.

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> Can you give me the rationale behind that?

It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex.
Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him
from interacting with another dog, and we pull back
on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of
control.

As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will
continue his original thoughts about interacting with
the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control,
the handler needs to further force restraint, making
communication with the dog's MIND, impossible.

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> It will help me modify my own behavior.

Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is
fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a
command or thought we want him to process.

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> Anyway, your approach is amazing.

Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as
effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students
confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics
are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left  for me to
do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push
up daisies.

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> Melisande

==========================================

Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of  his
business.  I simply want to thank him publicly for one
of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry!

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Quote:
Jeremy writes:

"A customer recently purchased a Shiba Inu and I suspect
she may be in for a wild ride.  This is a breed that I suspect
may respond particularly well to mutual respect style training.

The alpha complex (as I now call it) is likely to
really provoke the dog's naturally competitive nature.

Thanks 1000 times for opening my eyes and don't let
those ***s get you down.  I can't be the only person
that sees the sense in your methods. I'm in Windsor,
Ontario, Canada and pass your info to anyone it might
help" Thanks, Jeremy.

================

Quote:
> -----Original Message-----

> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 11:53 a.m.

> Subject: Jerry Howe

> Hi,
> Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering
> what you have to say of his training methods.
----- Original Message -----



Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe

> If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must
> already have a good idea about what I think.

> His methods are the best I have come across. They
> aren't a quick fix but an entire training concept so if
> you aren't in for the long haul then don't bother.  If
> you go his way then you have to forget all the other
> gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe
> in what you are doing, then and only then will you get
> the results.

> You can't combine his methods with other training
> methods, not until you understand what  you are
> trying to achieve, and even then I have only ever
> combined about 2 other trainers ideas and even
> then just a snip of what they suggest which works
> in parallel with the Wits End concept.

> His methods make you as the trainer completely
> responsible for your actions, his methods make
> you think and work out your own solutions for
> any given situation, the default (the recall) is
> always there to get things under control again.

> His ideas and concepts teach you to work with
> the dog, to develop a team and a willingness to
> work together which is surely the best way to be.

> His methods don't use force or intimidation but
> they do totally emphasize the absolute importance
> of pack (family pack) structure, without that you
> can achieve almost nothing.

> If you are wondering how a dog can be trained
> without any negativity the answer lies in the recall,
> anytime your dog doesn't follow through with a
> request you call him / her to you, since the recall
> is the first thing taught and it is taught in such a
> way it becomes a reflex the dog always returns
> to you, it is a subordinate position for the dog and
> we release it by asking for a "heel" which is an
> "equal" position.

> His methods are very good, his understanding of
> dogs is excellent, I recommend his methods.

> Paul Bousie

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> Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at
> all, people who find the manual useful are those that
> don't need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego
> but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to
> live with. I would suggest the people who follow the
> advice in his manual are people who have already
> tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with
> the poor results.

> The more I think about the methods he suggests the
> more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people
> believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it
> whats right and wrong, dogs don't understand
> our values and I don't believe they are capable of
> understanding them either, so to train them we use
> methods they understand. That means abstract
> training, doing sometimes what appears to
> almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.

> If you are purely result orientated then you will not
> find Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs
> and love to work WITH them then his manual is
> your dream come true. Distraction and praise works
> with any dog, when you sit back and really think about
> it, it's very obvious why.

> When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
> particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
> becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
> interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not,
> thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food
> stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it
> in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to
> pursue that behaviour.

> Better than hiding the garbage can eh?

> Paul

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