Minor Brag (kinda, sorta, maybe, or maybe not)

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Minor Brag (kinda, sorta, maybe, or maybe not)

Post by Marcel Beaudoi » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:56:05



Now this isn't a brag as in Moogli getting a title or Q'ing or anything
like that. this is because he played (or tried to) with another dog this
weekend!!

We took him to the dog run on saturday night. While there, we saw another
dog there. A bigger one. It was about 8:30pm, and dark, and it looked
like a rottie from afar. As we got closer, we saw it was not. It had very
short hair and had on a cape/doggie jacket. Asked what kind it was, and
it was a German Short-Haired Pointer. After she gave Moogli a coupl'a
sniffs, it ignored Moogli, but Moogli wanted to PLAY!! He was play bowing
and bouncing in front of her. She was kinda indifferent to Moogli, and
then her owner brought out her kong on a rope, adn the rest of the world
disappeared. This dog was completely hypnotized by the kong. When she
threw it, the dog took off, and Moogli took off after the dog.

According to the owner, the dog normally has great manners and gives the
kong back to her on command. With Moogli there, the manners and training
went out the window. He wandered around teasing Moogli with the kong. He
would drop it, and then Moogli would sniff towards the kong. the first
couple of times, the pointer jumped at Moogli and chased him for a couple
of meteres. After a few times of that, the pointer got tired of chasing
Moogli away, and corrected him (much growling and barking, but no
contact) From then on, Moogli would stay about 3 feet away, play bowing,
growling and barking!!! All in an effort to get this dog to play.

It was actually pretty funny.

On a related note, Gen now wants (in a couple of years, once the kids we
have will be about 5 or 6, probably about 6 or 7 years from now) a
Pointer, based on what this lady told us (easy to train, very little
shedding, very good with kids, but needs lots of exercise). I will be
googling and AKC'ing for info, but does anyone here have personal
experience??

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Post by Donn » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:10:06


Am happy for you and Moogli...

Donna

 
 
 

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Post by Shelly & The Boy » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:10:08



Quote:
> Now this isn't a brag as in Moogli getting a title or Q'ing or anything
> like that. this is because he played (or tried to) with another dog this
> weekend!!

Very cool!

<snipped>

Quote:
> On a related note, Gen now wants (in a couple of years, once the kids we
> have will be about 5 or 6, probably about 6 or 7 years from now) a
> Pointer, based on what this lady told us (easy to train, very little
> shedding, very good with kids, but needs lots of exercise). I will be
> googling and AKC'ing for info, but does anyone here have personal
> experience??

From my own experience (from the clinic, GSPs are a popular
gun dog around here, my husband's boss has one, and my best
friend's Dad had one--and I practically lived there in the summer):
They *are* very energetic, and the ones I've known were good with
kids.   My husband's bosses girl GSP is neurotic, in the sense that
she is kept in an outdoor kennel and isn't well-trained and flips
out whenever she is let out.   She is completely out of control
at the vets.   But, like I said, she is a hunting dog, and kept kenneled
way too much IMHO.
And, several I've seen border on very clingy/needy personalities
(I have 2 dogs I would term as velcro-dogs myself).   So, if you don't
like a dog that goes *everywhere* you do, I suspect a GSP might
get on your nerves (personally, I like that in a dog).

I personally would disagree on the shedding point, however.
They've got that type of hair that weaves its way into stuff and
doesn't come out.   I have hairy dogs.   But, for the most part,
the hair doesn't shed all over the place.   It brushes out easily, and
really isn't bad at all (compared to our old GSD...eeesh, shedding
machine!).

That said, I've seen some really, really great GSPs, excellent with
older kids (sort of exhuberant for the very young/toddlers), play hard,
love deeply, and learn quickly.    I really like them, aside from
that whole floppy ear thing/stubby tail thing. <grin>
Shelly & The Boys

 
 
 

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Post by didd » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:07:18


Quote:

> Now this isn't a brag as in Moogli getting a title or Q'ing or anything
> like that. this is because he played (or tried to) with another dog this
> weekend!!

> We took him to the dog run on saturday night. While there, we saw another
> dog there. A bigger one. It was about 8:30pm, and dark, and it looked
> like a rottie from afar. As we got closer, we saw it was not. It had very
> short hair and had on a cape/doggie jacket. Asked what kind it was, and
> it was a German Short-Haired Pointer. After she gave Moogli a coupl'a
> sniffs, it ignored Moogli, but Moogli wanted to PLAY!! He was play bowing
> and bouncing in front of her. She was kinda indifferent to Moogli, and
> then her owner brought out her kong on a rope, adn the rest of the world
> disappeared. This dog was completely hypnotized by the kong. When she
> threw it, the dog took off, and Moogli took off after the dog.

> According to the owner, the dog normally has great manners and gives the
> kong back to her on command. With Moogli there, the manners and training
> went out the window. He wandered around teasing Moogli with the kong. He
> would drop it, and then Moogli would sniff towards the kong. the first
> couple of times, the pointer jumped at Moogli and chased him for a couple
> of meteres. After a few times of that, the pointer got tired of chasing
> Moogli away, and corrected him (much growling and barking, but no
> contact) From then on, Moogli would stay about 3 feet away, play bowing,
> growling and barking!!! All in an effort to get this dog to play.

> It was actually pretty funny.

> On a related note, Gen now wants (in a couple of years, once the kids we
> have will be about 5 or 6, probably about 6 or 7 years from now) a
> Pointer, based on what this lady told us (easy to train, very little
> shedding, very good with kids, but needs lots of exercise). I will be
> googling and AKC'ing for info, but does anyone here have personal
> experience??

I love the looks of GSP's, but after seeing a lot of them at gun dog
tests, my impression of them is that they tend to be a bit squirrely
dogs. And their body odor is offensiove to me.
A well trained GSD is awesome to behold, but I have lost any desire to
own one.
 
 
 

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Post by Marcel Beaudoi » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:09:59



Quote:
> And their body odor is offensiove to me.

Body odor??

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Post by Shelly & The Boy » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:24:32



Quote:


> > And their body odor is offensiove to me.

> Body odor??

Yes...I forgot that part.   And IMHO (at least with the ones I've met,
which range from those of excellent, responsible breeding to not-so
good lines), squirrely is how I would describe some of them too.
But the truly *good* ones are awesome to watch (in obedience &
field work).
Shelly & The Boys
 
 
 

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Post by didd » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:19:31


Quote:

> > And their body odor is offensiove to me.

> Body odor??

apparently they need to be bathed frequently or their body/doggy odor
knocks you over and you do NOT want to be in a closed car with them.
(Beagles smell bad enough. I bath my beagles often, but my couch and bed
tend to smell doggy from the beagles, when Flint entered our life.. and
now Cappy, you can definitely notice a doggy smell in the house)

since dogs going places WITH me is a part of my lifestyle, having
odorless dogs is important to me. I can live with shedding, but smelly
dogs bothers me. Hair sweeps, but since I'm allergic to most detergents
with commercial additives, as well as perfumes, I make my own soaps.
With homemade soaps, it's harder to get smells out. Smell is VERY
important to me, as in having odorless dogs. Flint and Cappy both have a
warm slightly musky odor.
GSP's can get VERY doggy very fast.

 
 
 

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Post by Marcel Beaudoi » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:24:25




Quote:

>> > And their body odor is offensiove to me.

>> Body odor??

> GSP's can get VERY doggy very fast.

Ahhh. Right there, that will elminate them as far as Gen is concerned.

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Post by didd » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:30:49


  So, if you don't

Quote:
> like a dog that goes *everywhere* you do, I suspect a GSP might
> get on your nerves (personally, I like that in a dog).
>   I really like them, aside from
> that whole floppy ear thing/stubby tail thing. <grin>

(I kinda have a problem with floppy ears and stubby tails, but I think I
hate tails that clean off coffee tables and shin rappers worse)
I love a dog that wants to be everywhere you are, but always at an arms
length away so you aren't constantly bumping into them/stepping on them,
or have to fight for personal space. i want them THERE within the
perimeter of my space without being IN my space and taking over. (Both
beagles take OVER my space, which I take great umbrage to) I want a dog
to BE there.. without needing to constantly checking for their location.
I want to KNOW they are there.. somewhere, and everyonce in a while
check to see where they are. I love it when I go to check and call for
them, only to have them sit up, and ask what you wanted. They were there
all along, without being obnoxious about their presence.
 
 
 

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Post by Gwen Watso » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:31:19


Quote:


> > Now this isn't a brag as in Moogli getting a title or Q'ing or anything
> > like that. this is because he played (or tried to) with another dog this
> > weekend!!

> > We took him to the dog run on saturday night. While there, we saw another
> > dog there. A bigger one. It was about 8:30pm, and dark, and it looked
> > like a rottie from afar. As we got closer, we saw it was not. It had very
> > short hair and had on a cape/doggie jacket. Asked what kind it was, and
> > it was a German Short-Haired Pointer. After she gave Moogli a coupl'a
> > sniffs, it ignored Moogli, but Moogli wanted to PLAY!! He was play bowing
> > and bouncing in front of her. She was kinda indifferent to Moogli, and
> > then her owner brought out her kong on a rope, adn the rest of the world
> > disappeared. This dog was completely hypnotized by the kong. When she
> > threw it, the dog took off, and Moogli took off after the dog.

> > According to the owner, the dog normally has great manners and gives the
> > kong back to her on command. With Moogli there, the manners and training
> > went out the window. He wandered around teasing Moogli with the kong. He
> > would drop it, and then Moogli would sniff towards the kong. the first
> > couple of times, the pointer jumped at Moogli and chased him for a couple
> > of meteres. After a few times of that, the pointer got tired of chasing
> > Moogli away, and corrected him (much growling and barking, but no
> > contact) From then on, Moogli would stay about 3 feet away, play bowing,
> > growling and barking!!! All in an effort to get this dog to play.

> > It was actually pretty funny.

> > On a related note, Gen now wants (in a couple of years, once the kids we
> > have will be about 5 or 6, probably about 6 or 7 years from now) a
> > Pointer, based on what this lady told us (easy to train, very little
> > shedding, very good with kids, but needs lots of exercise). I will be
> > googling and AKC'ing for info, but does anyone here have personal
> > experience??
> I love the looks of GSP's, but after seeing a lot of them at gun dog
> tests, my impression of them is that they tend to be a bit squirrely
> dogs. And their body odor is offensiove to me.

I don't know. I know several and I have not noticed any body odor.
A bit squirrely I will agree with. They are bit too hyper with low
attention spans from what I have seen. This is not something I desire
in a breed but they are pretty if you like "floppy earred" dogs.

Gwen

 
 
 

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Post by didd » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:43:28


Quote:

> I don't know. I know several and I have not noticed any body odor.

Would that be because you have GSD's and Malenois (which are smelly dogs
to me). I never noticed doggy odor too much when we lived with dogs with
body odors, until you have lived with breeds without doggy odors, and
then they become overwhelming.
 
 
 

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Post by Gwen Watso » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:34:18



Quote:
> squirrely is how I would describe some of them too.
> But the truly *good* ones are awesome to watch (in obedience &
> field work).
> Shelly & The Boys

I definitely agree with this. They can really be awesome to
watch, especially doing field work.

Gwen

 
 
 

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Post by KrisHu » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:51:39



Quote:

> > I don't know. I know several and I have not noticed any body odor.

> Would that be because you have GSD's and Malenois (which are smelly dogs
> to me). I never noticed doggy odor too much when we lived with dogs with
> body odors, until you have lived with breeds without doggy odors, and
> then they become overwhelming.

I know several of both breeds (GSPs and GSDs) and I never noticed any smell.
Maybe b/c you consider my breed (Lab) smelly too.

The only time I noticed my lab getting a "dog odor" was in late winter when
the oils in her coat would go rancid from lack of swimming, but now that
she's a therapy dog she gets lots of baths.

However, GSP's do seem to be super active with ***y-tiny attention spans.
Despite that, the ones I see at obedience trials do really well.

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Post by didd » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:58:40


Quote:




> > > I don't know. I know several and I have not noticed any body odor.

> > Would that be because you have GSD's and Malenois (which are smelly dogs
> > to me). I never noticed doggy odor too much when we lived with dogs with
> > body odors, until you have lived with breeds without doggy odors, and
> > then they become overwhelming.

> I know several of both breeds (GSPs and GSDs) and I never noticed any smell.
> Maybe b/c you consider my breed (Lab) smelly too.

> The only time I noticed my lab getting a "dog odor" was in late winter when
> the oils in her coat would go rancid from lack of swimming, but now that
> she's a therapy dog she gets lots of baths.

> However, GSP's do seem to be super active with ***y-tiny attention spans.
> Despite that, the ones I see at obedience trials do really well.

GSP's passing obedience trials or not indicative of attention. Paying
attention for 8 minutes is not the same as paying attention all day,
every day.

(And yes, although there are individuals who take immaculate attention
to the hygiene of their dogs who can overcome the brunt of the smell
(like my beagles... need LOTS of baths .. lots and lots and lots)

But then I find Labs to be one of those REALLY smelly breeds because of
the oils needed to waterproof their coats.

 
 
 

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Post by Gwen Watso » Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:52:57


Quote:

>  Malenois (which are smelly dogs
> to me).

Malinois smelly? I don't know about that. I can agree
that a GSD can be or do have body odor. Blade
definitely gets an odor when he is stressed. And I know
he has one more or less.  But Clovis doesn't seem to have one at
all. If she does I LOVE her smell.

Gwen