Moon's Graden

>      I'd like to introduce you all to our new member of the family!
> He's a 12 week old Samoyed puppy.  (We are having a devil of a time
> picking a good name for him.  We're thinking Liam) We got him on
> Sunday (had to drive to Washington to pick him up; I live in Oregon,
> but it was only a few hours away) and he has been an amazing addition
> to the family already!  Him and my son (Kris) have played chase in the
> yard, the new pup has played in Kris' room, they romp together and lay
> down together.  He is exactly what we were looking for!  Him and my
> husband have sat with each other (Pup on his shoulder) and watched
> evening TV.  And he naps with me in the afternoons.  He's AWESOME!!!
> :-)

>      I've done a lot of research, and I *thought* I was ready, but I
> find myself with a few questions.  Would anybody mind?

>      We are doing the crate-training thing to help with potty
> training.  We take him out in the middle of the night (a few times) to
> go outside and go potty, but he's pottied inside his crate.  Is there
> something we should do?  Will this make us go backwards in his
> training?  How often at night should we take him out?  It seems when
> we do take him out, and when my husband takes him out at night before
> bed, he doesn't go potty.  I figure with all the collective knowledge
> in this group (and a few others; I'm going to cross-post a bit) that
> someone may have had this problem before.

>     The other question is about crying at night.  How long to they
> typically do this?  And is there anything that will help?  He breaks
> my heart with his crying.  (I know, it's expected, but I would like to
> help him, if I can)  He has never been away from his Mom and siblings
> before.  We have him in his crate at night in the laundry room (close
> to the door to get outside, and cooler in there) with a radio on at
> night.  Would a big stuffed animal (puppy proofed, of course) in his
> crate help?  We want to help him get through this traumatic time for
> him.  (And we want to sleep at night!) :-)

>      Thanks everyone.  You guys are always such a wonderful help, and
> I appreciate it.  Take care!

> Warm Regards,

> Lisa Jensen

>Hello again everyone!

>Warm Regards,

>Lisa Jensen

>BTW my puppy is from Oregon like you are!!

>Firstoff, get the crate out of the laundry room and into your bedroom.  Poor
>guy is very lonely and needs to be with your family. Despite some non-sam's
>people's perceptions sams are very much velcro dogs who need to be with the
>family all the time.  Putting him in the bedroom may help the crying
>situation. If not, post again I have some other suggestions.

>At 12 weeks he should only be able to hold it for 3 hours. - Thus he should
>be taken out every three hours.  It is not a good thing that he is going in
>the crate and its quite unusual.  This may be helped by him being in your
>bedroom as well - when he starts to cry, take him outside.  He should go
>potty right away and when he does praise and treat.  If he doesn't he goes
>right back in the crate (no love, playing or fun, its BEDTIME a word he
>should be learning ASAP).  This may mean you have one or two nights with a
>crying puppy in your bedroom but he will quickly get the routine.

>Any problems let me know!!

>--
>-Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
>Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss and Trek R200
>Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy)
>Anchorage, Alaska

>> Hello again everyone!

>>      I'd like to introduce you all to our new member of the family!
>> He's a 12 week old Samoyed puppy.  (We are having a devil of a time
>> picking a good name for him.  We're thinking Liam) We got him on
>> Sunday (had to drive to Washington to pick him up; I live in Oregon,
>> but it was only a few hours away) and he has been an amazing addition
>> to the family already!  Him and my son (Kris) have played chase in the
>> yard, the new pup has played in Kris' room, they romp together and lay
>> down together.  He is exactly what we were looking for!  Him and my
>> husband have sat with each other (Pup on his shoulder) and watched
>> evening TV.  And he naps with me in the afternoons.  He's AWESOME!!!
>> :-)

>>      I've done a lot of research, and I *thought* I was ready, but I
>> find myself with a few questions.  Would anybody mind?

>>      We are doing the crate-training thing to help with potty
>> training.  We take him out in the middle of the night (a few times) to
>> go outside and go potty, but he's pottied inside his crate.  Is there
>> something we should do?  Will this make us go backwards in his
>> training?  How often at night should we take him out?  It seems when
>> we do take him out, and when my husband takes him out at night before
>> bed, he doesn't go potty.  I figure with all the collective knowledge
>> in this group (and a few others; I'm going to cross-post a bit) that
>> someone may have had this problem before.

>>     The other question is about crying at night.  How long to they
>> typically do this?  And is there anything that will help?  He breaks
>> my heart with his crying.  (I know, it's expected, but I would like to
>> help him, if I can)  He has never been away from his Mom and siblings
>> before.  We have him in his crate at night in the laundry room (close
>> to the door to get outside, and cooler in there) with a radio on at
>> night.  Would a big stuffed animal (puppy proofed, of course) in his
>> crate help?  We want to help him get through this traumatic time for
>> him.  (And we want to sleep at night!) :-)

>>      Thanks everyone.  You guys are always such a wonderful help, and
>> I appreciate it.  Take care!

>> Warm Regards,

>> Lisa Jensen

>>Hello again everyone!

>Hiya Lisa,
>Only gonna comment on the last question :-)

>>    The other question is about crying at night.  How long to they
>>typically do this?  And is there anything that will help?  He breaks
>>my heart with his crying.  (I know, it's expected, but I would like to
>>help him, if I can)  He has never been away from his Mom and siblings
>>before.  We have him in his crate at night in the laundry room (close
>>to the door to get outside, and cooler in there) with a radio on at
>>night.  Would a big stuffed animal (puppy proofed, of course) in his
>>crate help?  We want to help him get through this traumatic time for
>>him.  (And we want to sleep at night!) :-)

>We don't use crates much in the UK and I find it difficult to understand their
>necessity ('part from travelling and sickness of course)...  
>However...... I'd strongly suggest you reconsider leaving him in the laundry
>room and bring him to your bedroom at night... you can still have him in the
>crate, but leave the door open. No prisons!
>It's gonna be inconvenient for a while... that's life, but he's worth it int he
>:-)
>Then I'd suggest you plan a good socialisation program for him... sooner the
>better. How come he was so late leaving his mum?
>best regards,
>Marilyn

>>Warm Regards,

>>Lisa Jensen

>Hi Marilyn,

>     Yep, I think he's going in our room.  I was concerned about the
>heat, and it's cooler in the laundry room, so that's the main reason
>he was there.  Thank you for the advice.  I really appreciate it!

>     Thanks again for the advice!  :-)  

>Warm Regards,

>Lisa Jensen

>>>Hello again everyone!

>>Hiya Lisa,
>>Only gonna comment on the last question :-)

>>>    The other question is about crying at night.  How long to they
>>>typically do this?  And is there anything that will help?  He breaks
>>>my heart with his crying.  (I know, it's expected, but I would like to
>>>help him, if I can)  He has never been away from his Mom and siblings
>>>before.  We have him in his crate at night in the laundry room (close
>>>to the door to get outside, and cooler in there) with a radio on at
>>>night.  Would a big stuffed animal (puppy proofed, of course) in his
>>>crate help?  We want to help him get through this traumatic time for
>>>him.  (And we want to sleep at night!) :-)

>>We don't use crates much in the UK and I find it difficult to understand their
>>necessity ('part from travelling and sickness of course)...  
>>However...... I'd strongly suggest you reconsider leaving him in the laundry
>>room and bring him to your bedroom at night... you can still have him in the
>>crate, but leave the door open. No prisons!
>>It's gonna be inconvenient for a while... that's life, but he's worth it int he
>>:-)
>>Then I'd suggest you plan a good socialisation program for him... sooner the
>>better. How come he was so late leaving his mum?
>>best regards,
>>Marilyn

>>>Warm Regards,

>>>Lisa Jensen

>      I'd like to introduce you all to our new member of the family!
> He's a 12 week old Samoyed puppy.

> > At 12 weeks he should only be able to hold it for 3 hours. -

>   Are you including night-time in that? I'm curious about that, as Roxy
has
> been able to hold it all night since she was about 11 weeks old. She came
to
> me at 13 weeks; at that time, she slept straight through the night but
would
> wake me up fairly early to take her out, and had to go out the *instant*
she
> started moving. (IOW if I delayed AT ALL she'd pee a bit to relieve
> pressure, then pee more when we got outside.)

>    She sleeps in the bed with the rest of us, btw, and has from the first;
> when she woke me to take her out, she did so by***ing my face.
> She's almost never crated at home; the crate is for riding on highways,
> during the other dogs' agility classes, and *sometimes* at the car repair
> shop, at a time when she'd be sleeping no matter where she was.

>      I thought I'd give everybody an update.  We moved the crate into
> the bedroom, and all is well so far.  We moved a fan in there to keep
> the air circulating around him (One of the reasons he was in the
> laundry room cause it was cooler) and he seems to be doing fine.  The
> first night didn't go too well.  It did for his crying, but not for
> pottying.  I did something STUPID and paid for it!  I didn't have his
> leash with me when I would go to take him outside (I assumed he would
> follow me outside) and he circled around the couch and peed on the
> carpet!  Oops!  I could have kicked myself!  Then he was really
> hungry, and I was sooo tired, that I let him eat and get away with
> stuff he probably shouldn't at 4:00 in the morning.  So, I learned
> from my mistakes, and last night went PERFECT!! I took him out (on his
> leash) when he made kind of a bark/whine and he pottied outside.  Then
> I took him out again when I heard him rustle around, and he went
> outside again.  GOOD BOY!!

>      Thanks everyone for all the wonderful advice.  You all have
> helped make this a happier home, and Liam a MUCH happier pup.  Thank
> you so much.

> Warm Regards,

> Lisa and Liam

> >Good morning everyone!

> >     I thought I'd give everybody an update.  We moved the crate into
> >the bedroom, and all is well so far.  We moved a fan in there to keep
> >the air circulating around him (One of the reasons he was in the
> >laundry room cause it was cooler) and he seems to be doing fine.  The
> >first night didn't go too well.  It did for his crying, but not for
> >pottying.  I did something STUPID and paid for it!  I didn't have his
> >leash with me when I would go to take him outside (I assumed he would
> >follow me outside) and he circled around the couch and peed on the
> >carpet!  Oops!  I could have kicked myself!  Then he was really
> >hungry, and I was sooo tired, that I let him eat and get away with
> >stuff he probably shouldn't at 4:00 in the morning.  So, I learned
> >from my mistakes, and last night went PERFECT!! I took him out (on his
> >leash) when he made kind of a bark/whine and he pottied outside.  Then
> >I took him out again when I heard him rustle around, and he went
> >outside again.  GOOD BOY!!

> >     Thanks everyone for all the wonderful advice.  You all have
> >helped make this a happier home, and Liam a MUCH happier pup.  Thank
> >you so much.

> Lisa, as I recall, the safest thing to do on potty trips is
> to CARRY the pup until you're outdoors.

> Especially if you see him start to circle around in the
> house:  swoop down, pick up puppy, walk quickly outside
> carrying him, set him down.

> I've never seen a Samoyed pup but I'll bet they're
> incredibly cute.

> Pat

> >Pat,
> >here is a picture of Kav at 12 weeks. Unfortunately his ears had already
> >stood up.  But I can say that although I had never seen a sammy puppy
before
> >I got him that they are the absolutely cutest puppies i have EVER seen.
> >http://www.geocities.com/kavik_the_woof_dog/cubmike.jpg

> Oh gosh.  That's *beyond* cute!  I wish I could have another
> dog...but two's our limit.

> Pat

>Give Liam a hug from us!!

>--
>-Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
>Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss and Trek R200
>Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy)
>Anchorage, Alaska