PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Description of your first forum.

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Arlie & Betsey Procto » Wed, 12 Mar 1997 04:00:00



.. . . start feeding my roses <VBG>? I'm in Indianapolis (zone 5) and my
roses which were unprotected all winter have pink swelling leaf buds.
I'm dying to start feeding them, while they are still able to get
sunlight. These are 2nd year plants that live under the canopy of 100 ft
trees, and once those trees leaf, that's it for sun for the year. Yes,
they actually live and bloom in this environment of total shade. How
early can I start feeding them?

Betsey

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Alice Flore » Thu, 13 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>.. . . start feeding my roses <VBG>? I'm in Indianapolis (zone 5) and my
>roses which were unprotected all winter have pink swelling leaf buds.
>I'm dying to start feeding them, while they are still able to get
>sunlight. These are 2nd year plants that live under the canopy of 100 ft
>trees, and once those trees leaf, that's it for sun for the year. Yes,
>they actually live and bloom in this environment of total shade. How
>early can I start feeding them?

***** Awwwwww.  *Feed* the poor little things!
(Actually, this is my gut feeling.  I could be wrong -- someone in your neck
of the woods should corroborate.)
 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Arlie & Betsey Procto » Thu, 13 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>***** Awwwwww.  *Feed* the poor little things!

(Actually, this is my gut feeling.  I could be wrong -- someone in your
neck
of the woods should corroborate.)<

That's my gut feeling too. If I thought I could prevent them from
breaking dormancy, I might not be tempted, but they're gonna do it
either way. We've had decisively springlike weather for three weeks, and
even my tulips are getting ready to bloom. Thanks, I'll do it.

Betsey

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Donna Corner Holm » Fri, 14 Mar 1997 04:00:00



: .. . . start feeding my roses <VBG>? I'm in Indianapolis (zone 5) and my
: roses which were unprotected all winter have pink swelling leaf buds.
: I'm dying to start feeding them, while they are still able to get
: sunlight. These are 2nd year plants that live under the canopy of 100 ft
: trees, and once those trees leaf, that's it for sun for the year. Yes,
: they actually live and bloom in this environment of total shade. How
: early can I start feeding them?

Music to my ears. I don't know what your weather is like, but here in
Northern California I started feeding mine when they had growth about
2 inches long. I too have been in a race against the leafing of the
trees, and it's gonna be a close one but I think I will see one glorious
flush of blooms before the tree wins out!
--
*****************************************************************************

SUMMARY INSIGHT                 Business Web Page under construction at
Marin County, CA                http://www.nbn.com/people/holmes/summary.html

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Rod Banac » Fri, 14 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> : .. . . start feeding my roses <VBG>? I'm in Indianapolis (zone 5) and my
> : roses which were unprotected all winter have pink swelling leaf buds.
> : I'm dying to start feeding them, while they are still able to get
> : sunlight. These are 2nd year plants that live under the canopy of 100 ft
> : trees, and once those trees leaf, that's it for sun for the year. Yes,
> : they actually live and bloom in this environment of total shade. How
> : early can I start feeding them?

Donna,

 When you 'feed' your roses, you actually are feeding the bacteria in
your soil.  One of the more important factors is the _temperature_ of
your soil. The bacteria in the soil that break down nitrogen into a form
that your roses can 'eat' begin to work at around 60ish degrees.  What
this means is - if your soil is still in the 40's (it most likely is
even colder that far north), all those $$ you spent on rose food are
just being wasted and washed away by the Spring rains.  The best thing
that can be done at this time is to add organics to your beds (that is -
if your beds aren't currently too high in organics) and wait for the
soil to warm up.  Most of the new growth you are seeing now is from
energy that the bush has stored-up within itself in preparation for
Spring.
 I would suggest contacting your local rose society for their
recommendations for fertilization schedules specific to your locale.
They have people trained (both calssroom and OJT) in this and many other
areas specific to roses.  Best of all, this consultation is free!

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Steven Cange » Sat, 15 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> I too have been in a race against the leafing of the
> trees, and it's gonna be a close one but I think I will see one glorious
> flush of blooms before the tree wins out!

Donna, in honor of the 30th anniversary of "The Graduate":

I just want to say one word to you, just one word...Spinosissima.

I don't know how Spinosissima does in your corner of the world, but in the
north it is a common response to shade caused by deciduous trees.  They
bloom early, before the trees have leafed out.  Their disease resistance
and light feeding allow them to handle the tree competition quite well.

--
Steven Cangemi
Annandale on Hudson
USDA Zone 5

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by petr.. » Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> I just want to say one word to you, just one word...Spinosissima.

I have always liked this word, although there are times that I have
wondered whether it is fair to call it "one word" since it is so long. I
am, however, still somewhat uncertain as to how it is pronounced. I
sound it out as "spin-o-siss-imma" which sounds to me like a square
dance term. Is this right?
 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Maagi » Tue, 18 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> > I just want to say one word to you, just one word...Spinosissima.

> I have always liked this word, although there are times that I have
> wondered whether it is fair to call it "one word" since it is so long. I
> am, however, still somewhat uncertain as to how it is pronounced. I
> sound it out as "spin-o-siss-imma" which sounds to me like a square
> dance term. Is this right?

WHOA! BIG WORD! ok...I give...what the heck IS it? :)
--
My page! Seen perfection lately?
http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster
National Computer Outlet
http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster/nco.htm
My UFO page. We are not alone
http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster/ufo.htm
 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by farhr.. » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Petrose inquired about the pronunciation on spinossissima...you got it right,
Pet, breaking it phonetically as you did.  They are great roses....we have
several....yes, folks, the Ballins do have something other than hybrid teas.
We have R. spinossissima Altaica, which is a medium sized five petaled white,
first to bloom in the spring, great fragrance, and another apple blossom pink
variety, which Floyd "Stretch" Johnson said was Andrewsii...but we are
not so sure.  When we questioned him, he said it might be R. Spinossissima
UNAMIT.  You figure that one out.  It took me a while, until I was printing
a label for it.  They grow quite tall, about 10 feet, have graceful, arching
canes, no hips to speak of, and very clean.  Have seen a touch of rust now
and then, but nothing else.  

Paula Ballin
Norhteastern Illinois Rose Society

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Trash Da » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:



 "spin-o-siss-imma" which sounds to me like a square

Quote:
>> dance term. Is this right?

I was a bit disappointed to read Paula's affirmation
of this pronunciation, thought it was sissi'ma as in Lima.
So now I'll have to crrreeeep over it for awhile.

Quote:
>WHOA! BIG WORD! ok...I give...what the heck IS it? :)

It's a rose.  Actually a whole bunch of roses--hybrid
roses.  What actually constitutes one is about as clear
as the rest of the Rose World.  Kinda like calling
a rose a Hybrid Tea.

Quote:
>My page! Seen perfection lately?
>http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster

Funny, Vince.  Who did the voting?

Quote:
>National Computer Outlet
>http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster/nco.htm
>My UFO page. We are not alone

Yeah we are haha--it's just us and God and He
wants us.  Some more than others heheh--I think
I just read that from LynnLynnLynne.

Quote:
>http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster/ufo.htm

Hey, so this was the last straw, I had a little post
compulsion when I read the first thing at the top of
that page, the comet thing.  It's just wild-haired,
lame-brained and published ideas like these, combined with half- and
no-truths, outright lies and insanity, often repeated and
endlessly discredited, that keep ufo and lgm types safe from ever
having anyone take them seriously.  The page and your links have much
in common with The National Enquirer.  They're entertaining, don't
get me wrong--but so is Darth Vader.  He's English, I think.

The orbiting component of the comet is merely its transient moon.
It's a doomed moon, and they ain't no aliens in control.
Shall we live in fear that someday we shall all be
plucked from our Planet and squished, like Ms. Much's aphids
(the pluckers'll probably have little aprons, and fly around
in big spaceships that say "If you wish it, We will squish it"
on the side (a contract job, ridding the Earth of the non-
beneficials)), or do you think it's gonna be kinda like Sunny
Southern California Bill's method--just a big cloud of Orthene?
Which will it be??  Maybe a big splash of water, a strong, steady
stream?  Perhaps they'll be organic freaks.  Anyway, just thinking
of you...

td

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Judy Pined » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:



> "spin-o-siss-imma" which sounds to me like a square
>>> dance term. Is this right?

>I was a bit disappointed to read Paula's affirmation
>of this pronunciation, thought it was sissi'ma as in Lima.
>So now I'll have to crrreeeep over it for awhile.

>>WHOA! BIG WORD! ok...I give...what the heck IS it? :)

>It's a rose.  Actually a whole bunch of roses--hybrid
>roses.  What actually constitutes one is about as clear
>as the rest of the Rose World.  Kinda like calling
>a rose a Hybrid Tea.

>>My page! Seen perfection lately?
>>http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster

>Funny, Vince.  Who did the voting?

>>National Computer Outlet
>>http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster/nco.htm
>>My UFO page. We are not alone

>Yeah we are haha--it's just us and God and He
>wants us.  Some more than others heheh--I think
>I just read that from LynnLynnLynne.

>>http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/bfoster/ufo.htm

>Hey, so this was the last straw, I had a little post
>compulsion when I read the first thing at the top of
>that page, the comet thing.  It's just wild-haired,
>lame-brained and published ideas like these, combined with half- and
>no-truths, outright lies and insanity, often repeated and
>endlessly discredited, that keep ufo and lgm types safe from ever
>having anyone take them seriously.  The page and your links have much
>in common with The National Enquirer.  They're entertaining, don't
>get me wrong--but so is Darth Vader.  He's English, I think.

>The orbiting component of the comet is merely its transient moon.
>It's a doomed moon, and they ain't no aliens in control.
>Shall we live in fear that someday we shall all be
>plucked from our Planet and squished, like Ms. Much's aphids
>(the pluckers'll probably have little aprons, and fly around
>in big spaceships that say "If you wish it, We will squish it"
>on the side (a contract job, ridding the Earth of the non-
>beneficials)), or do you think it's gonna be kinda like Sunny
>Southern California Bill's method--just a big cloud of Orthene?
>Which will it be??  Maybe a big splash of water, a strong, steady
>stream?  Perhaps they'll be organic freaks.  Anyway, just thinking
>of you...

>td

Hi Mack, good to see you back : )

Judy

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Donna Corner Holm » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00


: lame-brained and published ideas like these, combined with half- and
: no-truths, outright lies and insanity, often repeated and
: endlessly discredited, that keep ufo and lgm types safe from ever
: having anyone take them seriously.  The page and your links have much
: in common with The National Enquirer.  They're entertaining, don't
: get me wrong--but so is Darth Vader.  He's English, I think.

: The orbiting component of the comet is merely its transient moon.
: It's a doomed moon, and they ain't no aliens in control.
: Shall we live in fear that someday we shall all be
: plucked from our Planet and squished, like Ms. Much's aphids
: (the pluckers'll probably have little aprons, and fly around
: in big spaceships that say "If you wish it, We will squish it"
: on the side (a contract job, ridding the Earth of the non-
: beneficials)), or do you think it's gonna be kinda like Sunny
: Southern California Bill's method--just a big cloud of Orthene?
: Which will it be??  Maybe a big splash of water, a strong, steady
: stream?  Perhaps they'll be organic freaks.  Anyway, just thinking
: of you...

Aaahh, so nice to have you back, mack.
--
*****************************************************************************

SUMMARY INSIGHT                 Business Web Page under construction at
Marin County, CA                http://www.nbn.com/people/holmes/summary.html

 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Heather L. Whit » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> >My page! Seen perfection lately?
> >http://www.moonsgarden.com/

> Funny, Vince.  Who did the voting?

> >National Computer Outlet
> >http://www.moonsgarden.com/
> >My UFO page. We are not alone

> Yeah we are haha--it's just us and God and He
> wants us.  Some more than others heheh--I think
> I just read that from LynnLynnLynne.

Hey, Trash, good to have ya back. Was it like that ***ping, what was
that short story, where the ***pers end up having to pay the kid's
father the ransom? ;) Anyways I'm glad they brought you back.
 
 
 

PLEASE, please, please, can I . . .

Post by Steven Cange » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> The orbiting component of the comet is merely its transient moon.
> It's a doomed moon, and they ain't no aliens in control.
> Shall we live in fear that someday we shall all be
> plucked from our Planet and squished, like Ms. Much's aphids
> (the pluckers'll probably have little aprons, and fly around
> in big spaceships that say "If you wish it, We will squish it"
> on the side (a contract job, ridding the Earth of the non-
> beneficials)), or do you think it's gonna be kinda like Sunny
> Southern California Bill's method--just a big cloud of Orthene?
> Which will it be??  Maybe a big splash of water, a strong, steady
> stream?  Perhaps they'll be organic freaks.  Anyway, just thinking
> of you...

Real glad you could show up, Mr. Day.  Hope all is going well.

Whatever ones predilections and beliefs are, aphids reproduce so quickly
the only solution that doesn't require constant repitition is to rely on
predators.  When humankind's story has been written, I wonder if our
munchers will be a native or introduced species.

Hope you're enjoying Hale-Bopp.  We've had some great views here.

--
Steven Cangemi
Annandale on Hudson
USDA Zone 5