Building an arbor

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Building an arbor

Post by Nathan Mello » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Finding store bought ones to be expensive and inadequate,I have plans to
build an arbor. It is to serve as a decorative entrance to the Garden area
and as growing space for kiwifruit.

Feel free to post your suggestions and examples of your own arbors, or to
let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

The plan I envision:
Four 4x4 8 foot long treated lumber posts, embedded up to a foot into the
ground and probably cemented down with fence post cement and arranged in a
4' by 4' square pattern.
4' 2 x 4 lumber cross pieces across the north and south sides and across the
top. (I'm figuring out placement and how many)
2 4'x8' white vinyl lattice pieces on the south and north side.
1 4x4 piece of lattice across the top.
Decay resistant screws or nails long enough to penetrate a 4x4 into a 2x4.
Shorter screws or tacks. to attach the lattice.
Kiwi planted on the south side and maybe some other vine on the north side.

Nathan Mellor
Vancouver, WA
Portland OR metro area

 
 
 

Building an arbor

Post by Kay Cange » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Quote:

> Finding store bought ones to be expensive and inadequate,I have plans to
> build an arbor. It is to serve as a decorative entrance to the garden area
> and as growing space for kiwifruit.

> Feel free to post your suggestions and examples of your own arbors, or to
> let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

> The plan I envision:
> Four 4x4 8 foot long treated lumber posts, embedded up to a foot into the
> ground and probably cemented down with fence post cement and arranged in a
> 4' by 4' square pattern.
> 4' 2 x 4 lumber cross pieces across the north and south sides and across the
> top. (I'm figuring out placement and how many)
> 2 4'x8' white vinyl lattice pieces on the south and north side.
> 1 4x4 piece of lattice across the top.
> Decay resistant screws or nails long enough to penetrate a 4x4 into a 2x4.
> Shorter screws or tacks. to attach the lattice.
> Kiwi planted on the south side and maybe some other vine on the north side.

My experience with arbors is purely store-bought, but it really doesn't
sound tall enough. Eight feet of lumber, with one foot in the ground leaves
seven feet. One six foot person, and a 4 inch cross piece later, that's
only 8 inches of clearance. If anything is*** down, everybody will
duck. I'd plan on seven and a half to eight feet above ground. Eight feet
and you don't have to cut the lattice.

--
Kay Cangemi

A chiel 's amang ye takin' notes - Burns

New York, USDA zone 5
http://www.moonsgarden.com/~cangemi

 
 
 

Building an arbor

Post by Kubw » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00


You might want to take a look here at some Trellises I built.
Feel free to use any/all ideas you see.
http://www.geocities.com/bentwood99/
Richard

Quote:

>Finding store bought ones to be expensive and inadequate,I have plans to
>build an arbor. It is to serve as a decorative entrance to the garden area
>and as growing space for kiwifruit.

>Feel free to post your suggestions and examples of your own arbors, or to
>let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

>The plan I envision:
>Four 4x4 8 foot long treated lumber posts, embedded up to a foot into the
>ground and probably cemented down with fence post cement and arranged in a
>4' by 4' square pattern.
>4' 2 x 4 lumber cross pieces across the north and south sides and across
the
>top. (I'm figuring out placement and how many)
>2 4'x8' white vinyl lattice pieces on the south and north side.
>1 4x4 piece of lattice across the top.
>Decay resistant screws or nails long enough to penetrate a 4x4 into a 2x4.
>Shorter screws or tacks. to attach the lattice.
>Kiwi planted on the south side and maybe some other vine on the north side.

>Nathan Mellor
>Vancouver, WA
>Portland OR metro area

 
 
 

Building an arbor

Post by RHumphr8 » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Nathan,

You are definitely going to have to consider longer posts because you need way
more than 1 foot below grade.  You should be thinking in terms of about 3 feet
and anchored in concrete.

From my experience, too, I would go with posts of about 6x6; or you could use
multiple pieces of 2x stock "sandwiched" together.

Wouldn't use 2x4 either.  Use something like 2x8. It is large enough that a
decorative edge can be cut into it using a jigsaw.

Vinyl lattice.  Nope, try using some 1x stock and make your own lattice.  

Screws or nails for the 2x4s.  As some people on this NG know, I really don't
like using metal fasteners, but I guess you could get away with screws on a
2x4.  If you used larger stock, carriage bolts would be a better choice.

For added strength, consider attaching your crosspieces using a lap joint.
This will put the bearing weight of the crosspiece onto the shoulder of the
post rather than having the fastener support the load.

Dimensions of your project:  Is your 4'x4' sqare based on inside or outside
measurements?  Make sure it is wide enough to easily get a wheelbarrow or
whatever other garden equipment through (if it is your only access).

Best of luck with your project.

Rob

P.S. Don't ever hold a nail for someone else to hit.

 
 
 

Building an arbor

Post by davidw.. » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00


If this is a large arbor >4' wide, I would beef it up. use 4x6s and 2x6,
and construction grade real lattice ( you _really_ dont want to get
involved in that plastic stuff no matter what size).
Stainless stell deck screws are expensive but wrth it.
Kiwis get to be big heavy vines.
 
 
 

Building an arbor

Post by dr.s.. » Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:00:00


I used 4x4 posts (12') and 2 x 4 for the rest.  There are 4 kiwi on one of
the arbors, wisteria on the other.  Pictures of how it looks now
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/pond/page4/pp4.htm
use the back button to see building views.  Ingrid

 . It is to serve as a decorative entrance to the garden area

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>and as growing space for kiwifruit.

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Building an arbor

Post by Victori » Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Great site Ingrid.  I never knew you had a webpage set up. Thanks for sharing
it.  I'd love to build a really large arbor over the deck by the pool.  Plant
some nice wisteria.  Everything takes time...but thanks for the ideas.  Really
nice.

Victoria

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>I used 4x4 posts (12') and 2 x 4 for the rest.  There are 4 kiwi on one of
>the arbors, wisteria on the other.  Pictures of how it looks now
>http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/pond/page4/pp4.htm
>use the back button to see building views.  Ingrid


> . It is to serve as a decorative entrance to the garden area
>>and as growing space for kiwifruit.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>for care of goldfish go to http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~