Fear Factor - rat abuse!!!

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Fear Factor - rat abuse!!!

Post by Kell » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 05:49:26



I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate competitions.

The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a box,
and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the box,
they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into white
and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats won.

I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were picked up
by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed around
like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes properly
on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their heads
everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the box on
the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped from
like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
opening as they got dropped into the box.

I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these animals in
this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't matter".

I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I find out
anything I will let you guys know.

Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would you
agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

Thanks,

Kelly

 
 
 

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Post by Rachael Ne » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 06:32:42



Quote:
> I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate competitions.

<snip>

Quote:

> I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I find
out
> anything I will let you guys know.

> Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would you
> agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

I didn't see it, but I would say that yeah - this is abuse. We get the show
on Sky over here and I've always thought it was pretty dire anyway, having
seen it a few times and then dismissing it as just cheap tv with centering
around exhibitionsits - and now I know it is stupid and cruel as well as
***telly. I should imagine the address for complaints is different over
here than it is where you are (are you in anywhere other than the UK ?) but
if you find an address, let me know. Meantime, if this episode shows up on
Sky One, I'll be mailing them to voice my anger.

Rachael

 
 
 

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Post by Lawrence & Bobbi » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 06:55:18


Here's the web site
http://www.nbc.com/Fear_Factor/home.shtml
 
 
 

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Post by Rachael Ne » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:23:54




Quote:
> Here's the web site
> http://www.nbc.com/Fear_Factor/home.shtml

You beat me to it - I had just seen the end of the program and the website
in the credits - and had come to my pc to post it !

Rachael

 
 
 

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Post by Mat » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:34:31



Quote:

> I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate competitions.

> The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a box,
> and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the box,
> they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into white
> and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats won.

> I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were picked up
> by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed around
> like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes properly
> on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their heads
> everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the box on
> the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped from
> like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> opening as they got dropped into the box.

> I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these animals in
> this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't matter".

> I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I find out
> anything I will let you guys know.

> Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would you
> agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

Go for it. Write NBC. Call them. Make a stink. I already tried when they
did it the first time. Never got a response. But there's power in numbers.

If you really want to make an effort, contact the show's SPONSORS and tell
them you are going to boycott their products if they continue to sponsor
the show. I'll do it too, if you can tell me who advertised for the show.

Matt

 
 
 

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Post by Kell » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:42:42



Quote:


> > I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> > people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate
competitions.

> > The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a
box,
> > and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the
box,
> > they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into
white
> > and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats
won.

> > I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were picked
up
> > by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed around
> > like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes
properly
> > on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their
heads
> > everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the box
on
> > the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped
from
> > like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> > opening as they got dropped into the box.

> > I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these animals
in
> > this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't matter".

> > I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I find
out
> > anything I will let you guys know.

> > Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would you
> > agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

> Go for it. Write NBC. Call them. Make a stink. I already tried when they
> did it the first time. Never got a response. But there's power in numbers.

> If you really want to make an effort, contact the show's SPONSORS and tell
> them you are going to boycott their products if they continue to sponsor
> the show. I'll do it too, if you can tell me who advertised for the show.

Well I have contacted the show through e-mail, and posted the message in
almost every animal newsgroup I'm in (a lot).  Hopefully if enough people
voice there concerns, something will be said about it.  Here in Canada is
was CH who advertised the show.  I believe they're based in Hamilton,
Ontario.

Kelly

 
 
 

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Post by pagh » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:26:43



Quote:

> I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate competitions.

> The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a box,
> and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the box,
> they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into white
> and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats won.

> I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were picked up
> by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed around
> like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes properly
> on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their heads
> everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the box on
> the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped from
> like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> opening as they got dropped into the box.

> I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these animals in
> this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't matter".

> I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I find out
> anything I will let you guys know.

> Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would you
> agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

> Thanks,

> Kelly

You'd never catch me watching such a dumb idea for a show to find out, but
they do claim no animals are hurt in these things, & a lot of the
purported "fear" is faked for the camera's sake. Someone WOULD get their
head bitten by a rat if they were really hurting the rats. Many rats will
take a lot of abuse without fighting back, but if a leg is really twisted
& the rat feels pain, it will bite reflexively -- the tail they might not
feel, but a twisted leg, you'd hear the leg-injured rat screaming until
let go, & you'd see a bitten human face bleeding. So unless the
heads-in-the-box were dripping *** afterward, I'd hazard the rats felt
no pain & were in fact trained by the ratwranglers to expect this to
happen as a game. Rats can fall from a four-foot height very safely, &
unless you're saying they were being flung in a five-foot-deep box, the
rats were probably having fun.

There is a rat wrangler mere inches off camera to interupt if anything is
going awry. There is also SUBSTANTIAL enforcement of rigid laws that don't
allow for the abuse of animals in movies or television programs made in
the US or Canada; if they go to Italy or Brazil to film it, it may be to
escape prosecution for a harmful stunt. I'm told the Fear Factor stunts
usually last a great deal longer than makes it on the air; they are
condensed to look far worse than is happening. The contestants are also
instructed NOT to harm the animals -- someone with fifty snakes poored
over their body could indeed role over & harm a snake much more easily
than the rats. And that snake could be worth hundreds of dollars or a
thousand -- the wranglers tend to love their animals & have told
contestants what NOT to do in order that the animals are safe.

I also have trouble believing someone with their head in a box picking up
rats with their mouth, even if they got them by the belly-hairs or the
nuts, could actually lift them high enough to risk harming them. And
again, if the rat was hurt by human teeth, the human would risk being hurt
by a ratty's reflexive bite, & then the show would risk getting sued if a
contestant got nipped in the eyeball. They sign wavers not to sue, but
such forms are not binding if actual danger results in actual injury.

But as I am never going to spend any of my life watching such a show, I
will never know definitively if it was or wasn't as disgusting as you
perceived it, if they would really rather pay the stiff fines & risk a
couple nights in jail to condense into six seedy minutes between
commercials. I think you're right to be annoyed by such shows & I'm sure
animals are at some risk despite precautions. But my greater complaint
would be the abject stupidity of such programs that seem to appeal to a
repellant population of couch potatoes.

-paghat

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color, & ill-smelling." -Ambrose Bierce
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Post by Kell » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 08:20:42


<sigh> Just got an automated reply from that address and it said all e-mail
sent to the address will not be read.

Well then I have a question, why have an e-mail at all?!?!?!?

Does anyone have any contact ideas?

Kelly


Quote:





> > > I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> > > people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate
> competitions.

> > > The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a
> box,
> > > and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the
> box,
> > > they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into
> white
> > > and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats
> won.

> > > I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were
picked
> up
> > > by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed
around
> > > like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes
> properly
> > > on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their
> heads
> > > everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the
box
> on
> > > the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped
> from
> > > like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> > > opening as they got dropped into the box.

> > > I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these
animals
> in
> > > this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't
matter".

> > > I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I
find
> out
> > > anything I will let you guys know.

> > > Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would
you
> > > agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

> > Go for it. Write NBC. Call them. Make a stink. I already tried when they
> > did it the first time. Never got a response. But there's power in
numbers.

> > If you really want to make an effort, contact the show's SPONSORS and
tell
> > them you are going to boycott their products if they continue to sponsor
> > the show. I'll do it too, if you can tell me who advertised for the
show.

> Well I have contacted the show through e-mail, and posted the message in
> almost every animal newsgroup I'm in (a lot).  Hopefully if enough people
> voice there concerns, something will be said about it.  Here in Canada is
> was CH who advertised the show.  I believe they're based in Hamilton,
> Ontario.

> Kelly

 
 
 

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Post by pagh » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:46:52


In article

Quote:



> > I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> > people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate competitions.

> > The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a box,
> > and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the box,
> > they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into white
> > and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats won.

> > I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were picked up
> > by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed around
> > like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes properly
> > on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their heads
> > everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the box on
> > the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped from
> > like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> > opening as they got dropped into the box.

> > I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these animals in
> > this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't matter".

> > I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I find out
> > anything I will let you guys know.

> > Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would you
> > agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

> Go for it. Write NBC. Call them. Make a stink. I already tried when they
> did it the first time. Never got a response. But there's power in numbers.

> If you really want to make an effort, contact the show's SPONSORS and tell
> them you are going to boycott their products if they continue to sponsor
> the show. I'll do it too, if you can tell me who advertised for the show.

> Matt

That's right, the producers are used to loonies complaining, "You hurt
those mealworms! You am bad!." They laugh at it & if we put ourselves in
their shoes for a moment, folks worrying themselves into a frenzy over
madagascar giant***roaches, spiders, or rats, probably does look
laughable. Now I suspect they're not harming animals because there are
rigid laws about using animals in films & on television -- laws that do
actually protect even the mealworms & cocroaches. There's an Animal Planet
show about hollywood animals, & I caught an episode in which madagascar
***roaches were being gathered up with SUCH tenderness after a shoot in
which they were supposed to be evil monsters, it was sweet & funny.

But if someone were convinced otherwise & wanted to do something about it,
the only effective threat would be to their ADVERTISERS. I've no idea who
advertises with them, but let's say it's Hersheys or Ford. Making the CEO
worry Hersheys candies or the latest Ford model will be associated with
abuse of animals will make them reluctant to have their ads on the show.
The only other thing that would effect the producers would be lousy
ratings. If no one watches, it'll go away; if people watch & write whiny
angry letters, they still watched, they helped push up the ratings.

-paghat

--
"Flowers are commonly badly designed, inartistic in
color, & ill-smelling." -Ambrose Bierce
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Post by pagh » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:54:25



Quote:

> <sigh> Just got an automated reply from that address and it said all e-mail
> sent to the address will not be read.

> Well then I have a question, why have an e-mail at all?!?!?!?

> Does anyone have any contact ideas?

> Kelly

You need the name of the producer & you need to write an actual letter.
E-mails are from *** & have as much authority as a pre-printed postcard
saying "support guns or I won't vote for you!" sent to Ted Kennedy.

But if you want it to have any effect, get instead the names of CEOs of
companies that advertise on the show as Matt suggested. Write the
advertisers -- to SPECIFIC presidents or heads of companies, not
generically "to General Mills" as that won't get read either. Write to
each advertiser one at a time as though their product specifically
mattered & you were ashamed of their association with animal abuse. Send a
"cc" to the show's producer. At the very least you'll make them dance on a
hotplate for five minutes, as they really worry about what advertisers
think.

As I said, I suspect you were guided by camera angles & editing to see
worse than really happened, but if you're sure of yourself, go for it.

-paghat

Quote:







> > > > I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> > > > people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate
> > competitions.

> > > > The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a
> > box,
> > > > and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the
> > box,
> > > > they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into
> > white
> > > > and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats
> > won.

> > > > I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were
> picked
> > up
> > > > by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed
> around
> > > > like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes
> > properly
> > > > on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their
> > heads
> > > > everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the
> box
> > on
> > > > the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped
> > from
> > > > like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> > > > opening as they got dropped into the box.

> > > > I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these
> animals
> > in
> > > > this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't
> matter".

> > > > I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I
> find
> > out
> > > > anything I will let you guys know.

> > > > Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would
> you
> > > > agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

> > > Go for it. Write NBC. Call them. Make a stink. I already tried when they
> > > did it the first time. Never got a response. But there's power in
> numbers.

> > > If you really want to make an effort, contact the show's SPONSORS and
> tell
> > > them you are going to boycott their products if they continue to sponsor
> > > the show. I'll do it too, if you can tell me who advertised for the
> show.

> > Well I have contacted the show through e-mail, and posted the message in
> > almost every animal newsgroup I'm in (a lot).  Hopefully if enough people
> > voice there concerns, something will be said about it.  Here in Canada is
> > was CH who advertised the show.  I believe they're based in Hamilton,
> > Ontario.

> > Kelly

--
"Flowers are commonly badly designed, inartistic in
color, & ill-smelling." -Ambrose Bierce
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ra***:
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Post by Verbil » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 11:08:07



Quote:

> I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate competitions.

> The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a box,
> and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the box,
> they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into white
> and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats won.

> I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were picked up
> by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed around
> like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes properly
> on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their heads
> everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the box on
> the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped from
> like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> opening as they got dropped into the box.

Please, if anyone has contact info (snail mail addresses preferred) for
the advertisers, the show, and network, we should write to all of them
and complain loudly. ANIMAL ABUSE IS NOT ENTERTAINMENT!

-verbila

 
 
 

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Post by Basse » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:20:10


Quote:



> > I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> > people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate competitions.

    I saw it as well. As soon as I saw it I changed the channel and
came in here to email them. Not the sweetest email I have ever sent.
 
 
 

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Post by Kell » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:39:08



Quote:


> > I watched Fear Factor as I always do last night.  It is a show where 6
> > people have to "face their fears" and partake in 3 separate
competitions.

> > The second competition was that the person had to put their head in a
box,
> > and the box was 1/4 filled with rats.  As they had their head in the
box,
> > they had to sort rats out of a box on their right, and sort them into
white
> > and black rats (in boxes) on their left.  Whoever sorted the most rats
won.

> > I was sickened by how the "sorted" rats were treated.  They were picked
up
> > by various body parts, arms, heads, tails, etc.  They were tossed around
> > like a baseball.  Because the people couldn't see the sorting boxes
properly
> > on their left, they would smash the mouse into the boxes and hit their
heads
> > everywhere.  When they finally reached the opening in the top of the box
on
> > the left, the mouse would either get thrown in with force, or dropped
from
> > like a foot in the air... often hitting themselves on the side of the
> > opening as they got dropped into the box.

> > I was very pissed off by this obvious lack of respect for these animals
in
> > this game.  Like "oh they are just disgusting rats, it doesn't matter".

> > I'm trying to figure out how to contact the show and complain, if I find
out
> > anything I will let you guys know.

> > Did anyone see the episode??? Or from the description I gave, would you
> > agree that this is indeed animal abuse??

> > Thanks,

> I also have trouble believing someone with their head in a box picking up
> rats with their mouth, even if they got them by the belly-hairs or the
> nuts, could actually lift them high enough to risk harming them. And
> again, if the rat was hurt by human teeth, the human would risk being hurt
> by a ratty's reflexive bite, & then the show would risk getting sued if a
> contestant got nipped in the eyeball. They sign wavers not to sue, but
> such forms are not binding if actual danger results in actual injury.

Please read my message again.  Slooowwwly.   Their head was in the box with
rats, they were sorting OTHER rats with thier hands (very roughly, flinging
the rats about - because they couldn't see the boxes they were sorting the
rats into).

Quote:

> But as I am never going to spend any of my life watching such a show, I
> will never know definitively if it was or wasn't as disgusting as you
> perceived it, if they would really rather pay the stiff fines & risk a
> couple nights in jail to condense into six seedy minutes between
> commercials. I think you're right to be annoyed by such shows & I'm sure
> animals are at some risk despite precautions. But my greater complaint
> would be the abject stupidity of such programs that seem to appeal to a
> repellant population of couch potatoes.

I find it offensive that you are insinuating that I'm a couch potatoe.  I
have very FEW shows that I watch regularly, the total comes to about 3
actually.  And I happen to find Fear Factor amusing, in the least.  I'm a
University student and frankly don't have time to sit and watch TV all the
time.   If you think there's something "lower" about the people who watch
Fear Factor, and decide to act condescending (which you already blatently
have), then that makes you look like the ass, not me.

Kelly

 
 
 

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Post by pagh » Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:05:02



Quote:



> > But as I am never going to spend any of my life watching such a show, I
> > will never know definitively if it was or wasn't as disgusting as you
> > perceived it, if they would really rather pay the stiff fines & risk a
> > couple nights in jail to condense into six seedy minutes between
> > commercials. I think you're right to be annoyed by such shows & I'm sure
> > animals are at some risk despite precautions. But my greater complaint
> > would be the abject stupidity of such programs that seem to appeal to a
> > repellant population of couch potatoes.

> I find it offensive that you are insinuating that I'm a couch potatoe.  I
> have very FEW shows that I watch regularly, the total comes to about 3
> actually.  And I happen to find Fear Factor amusing, in the least.  I'm a
> University student and frankly don't have time to sit and watch TV all the
> time.   If you think there's something "lower" about the people who watch
> Fear Factor, and decide to act condescending (which you already blatently
> have), then that makes you look like the ass, not me.

> Kelly

I insinuated nothing of the sort. If you felt the shoe fit, that was your
insecurity speaking to you, not me, nor do I care if you're a PhD
candidate at Duke -- if you were, you wouldn't be the first one who could
answer all the Brady Bunch trivia or memorized all the titles of the
individual I Love Lucy episodes in order of their original appearance.

For all I know you don't even own a television but caught this piece of
shit while visiting your ex in a mental ward where all the drooling
drugged patients had been propped up in front of a constantly droning
television set, & you immediately complained to the nurses about the care
those people weren't getting, & it was only by the wildest of coincidences
the show the headcases were stuck watching was Fear With A Tall Beer
Hosted By A Hunky ***.

It remains if people don't watch that ***it won't be on the air; if it
has high enough ratings to stay on the air, it's because of couch
potatoes, NOT because of people who watch selectively or not at all or
catch it by accident during visiting hours at the mental ward. Cuz admit
it, the average dumbass has to spend one hell of a lot of time in front of
the *** tube to get around to THAT low grade of entertainment. So yeah,
while it never occurred to me previousy to judge you personally on this
score, now that you've made it clear that it's in your top three favorite
shows, I see why you'd take personally any reference to the coach potatoes
who give it high ratings.  Watching a dog drag his wormy ass across a
carpet would be less of a waste of time.

-paghat

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Fear Factor - rat abuse!!!

Post by Mark Tomlinso » Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:34:41


While I believe that no actual animal abuse occurred, I am offended at this
being one more act of media sensationalism that paints all rats as evil.  I
didn't see the show and will not be contacting the producers, sorry.  But if
you do, I would suggest you focus on the misrepresentation of fact rather
than the perceived abuse.

--
Mark Tomlinson
"I'm not a trouble maker; I am a catalyst for change."