Excessive grooming problems.

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Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Galaha » Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:58:12



Anyone have any advise on what to do about excessive grooming? I have three
boys, and two of them have bald patches and scabs from what I'm reasonably
certain is excessive grooming..

Thanks for the help

 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Moonligh » Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:45:22


Quote:

>Anyone have any advise on what to do about excessive grooming? I have three
>boys, and two of them have bald patches and scabs from what I'm reasonably
>certain is excessive grooming..

>Thanks for the help

If your rats are "barbering" each other, there isn't much to do. Once rats
start barbering each other, it's almost impossible to stop it. One common
barberism factors is boredom so, making their living quarters more exciting
could help. (distract them) Spending more time playing with them could also
help.

If they do it to themselves, it could be excess proteins/fat, mites/lice or
an allergic reaction to something.

 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Mat » Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:00:14



Quote:

> Anyone have any advise on what to do about excessive grooming? I have three
> boys, and two of them have bald patches and scabs from what I'm reasonably
> certain is excessive grooming..

> Thanks for the help

Boredom is the first culprit. Is their cage large and entertaining for
them? If not, consider getting them a nice, multi-level cage with room to
climb and play.

If that's not it, I'm not sure what else it could be. Maybe seperating them
for a day or two would help? Just taking shots in the dark.

Matt

 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Galaha » Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:24:49



Quote:


> > Anyone have any advise on what to do about excessive grooming? I have
three
> > boys, and two of them have bald patches and scabs from what I'm
reasonably
> > certain is excessive grooming..

> > Thanks for the help

> Boredom is the first culprit. Is their cage large and entertaining for
> them? If not, consider getting them a nice, multi-level cage with room to
> climb and play.

> If that's not it, I'm not sure what else it could be. Maybe seperating
them
> for a day or two would help? Just taking shots in the dark.

They have a pretty large cage... but i suppose they could have more toys...
Any suggestions on what toys are popular with ratties? I have a hammoc and a
ladder in the cage now..
 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Mat » Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:49:03



Quote:

> They have a pretty large cage... but i suppose they could have more toys...
> Any suggestions on what toys are popular with ratties? I have a hammoc and a
> ladder in the cage now..

That's a good start. Hmm. Simple stuff is usualy a big hit. Toilet paper
tubes, small boxes (Kleenex boxes, for example), chew toys. If they have a
big cae and some stuff inside there, though, boredom may not be the
problem. It makes me wonder about lice or something.

I would try going to your local Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, or pet store and
buying a flea shampoo designed for cats (something that won't be harmful if
***ed). Give each a gentle shampoo bath (not an easy task, but it's a
one-time shot), and then seperating them for a day.

Something is causing them to go after each other's fur. It's not normal
behavior if they've got a nice cage and get regular playtime with you.

Wish I could be more help.

Matt

 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Galaha » Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:09:32



Quote:


> > They have a pretty large cage... but i suppose they could have more
toys...
> > Any suggestions on what toys are popular with ratties? I have a hammoc
and a
> > ladder in the cage now..

> That's a good start. Hmm. Simple stuff is usualy a big hit. Toilet paper
> tubes, small boxes (Kleenex boxes, for example), chew toys. If they have a
> big cae and some stuff inside there, though, boredom may not be the
> problem. It makes me wonder about lice or something.

I woried about lice, exept that only two of my rats have the condition with
the boss rat having the worst, so I figure its excessive 'sucking up'
grooming..

Quote:
> I would try going to your local Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, or pet store and
> buying a flea shampoo designed for cats (something that won't be harmful
if
>***ed). Give each a gentle shampoo bath (not an easy task, but it's a
> one-time shot), and then seperating them for a day.

I can try it.. I'll be leaving soon so i need a rat sitter. Maybe the pet
store has some ideas.
 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by CatheB, Surprisingly enoug » Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:06:01


Quote:

> I would try going to your local Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, or pet store and
> buying a flea shampoo designed for cats (something that won't be harmful if
>***ed). Give each a gentle shampoo bath (not an easy task, but it's a
> one-time shot), and then seperating them for a day.

NO..please DO NOT use flea shampoo or any other shampoo not made for
rodents...even if you use baby shampoo, you should dilute it ALOT.
Unlike cats, rats don't vomit up the bad stuff. And the oils that get
stripped from puppy shampoo or kitten shampoo can really lead to exzema
among other problems.
Two non-toxic alternatives to shampoos..(even if you must use a mite
spray or what not, bird spray is better if only used LIGHTLY)... diluted
oatmeal with the tiniest bit of tomato juice. OR, one drop tea tree oil
to 16 ounces of water. (really one drop may even be too strong) Oatmeal
also works great on kids for poison ivy relief.
The best flea or mite meds are still those that are injected under the
skin, or if worse comes to worse, good old garlic, injested.
--
catheb.com
Who? only a Yogurt!
 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Nick » Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:07:50


Hi

Re killing of lice on rats under no circumstances use anything intended for
cats or dogs or evn humans, the out come can be quite severe, imagine
putting your hand in neat acid and what that does, this could be the reault
to your rat, there are plenty of medications on the market both from your
local vet and the pet store, do not let the pet store sell you stuff for
dogs or cats but go for bob martins pestroy as it is the only one I would
recommend and then only very sparingly.

use it on the floor covering and bedding and keep the rats out of contact
for 30 mins.  If the rats themselves need doing spray onto your hand first
and then stroke the rat the opposite way so that it covers the underside of
the fur, try avoiding direct contact with the rats skin.

Nick

 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Mat » Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:23:16


Quote:


> > I would try going to your local Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, or pet store and
> > buying a flea shampoo designed for cats (something that won't be harmful if
> >***ed). Give each a gentle shampoo bath (not an easy task, but it's a
> > one-time shot), and then seperating them for a day.

> NO..please DO NOT use flea shampoo or any other shampoo not made for
> rodents...even if you use baby shampoo, you should dilute it ALOT.
> Unlike cats, rats don't vomit up the bad stuff. And the oils that get
> stripped from puppy shampoo or kitten shampoo can really lead to exzema
> among other problems.

My mistake. We were told to use a cat shampoo on our rats when they had
something and saw no adverse effects. Maybe we got lucky.

Matt

 
 
 

Excessive grooming problems.

Post by Nick » Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:54:20


Hi Matt

You were very lucky indeed, due to the nature of fleas the medications are
having to be made stronger as they become immune to the older types.

As it is impossibe for the general public to obtain medications apart from a
vet for such things there is an alternative grooming your rat with a nit
comb regularly will help to spot any undesirable infestaions.

Another cause of baldness on rats that causes the itch is red spider mite
now these little darlings only come out at night and hide in cracks and
crevices around the home, they feed on *** and it is the at the point of
the scab formation that causes the itch, as in humans, you have an
irritating itch then you scartch it depending on the degree of itch depends
on how often this area is scratched.