New rat owner - advice needed!

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New rat owner - advice needed!

Post by Ozzfrea » Mon, 08 Nov 1999 04:00:00



On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:02:15 -0000, "Claire Cook"

Hello, sorry about your little mishap.  I'm also a new rat owner, and
I found a site that may help you, goto
http://hometown.aol.com/RistoRat/ARmain.html  It has an article about
what to do if your rat gets loose and is scared.  Hope this helps!

Ozzfreak

Quote:
>Hi

>I'm a very new rat owner - I bought two baby boys on Saturday, supposedly
>for my daughter but I'm just as fascinated as she is!  We've had hamsters
>before, but decided to branch out into rats, as it were!

>However disaster struck that evening - one of the babies escaped from the
>cage while we were having a look at it, and disappeared behind the wardrobe!
>Daughter was distraught, and I wasn't too happy either!  Two and a half
>hours (and a wrecked bedroom) later we managed to scoop him up and put him
>back with his bewildered brother.

>My problem now is that Charlie (the escapee) is now extremely nervous.
>Harvey (his brother) is becoming inquisitive and coming towards us when we
>come to the cage, but Charlie hides whenever we are there.  We want to show
>him that we mean well, and don't want to frighten him, but I'm afraid that
>his bad experience has put him off us.

>What can we do to coax him out, and start becoming friends with us?

>Any ideas?

>Thanks, Claire

 
 
 

New rat owner - advice needed!

Post by Claire Coo » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Hi

I'm a very new rat owner - I bought two baby boys on Saturday, supposedly
for my daughter but I'm just as fascinated as she is!  We've had hamsters
before, but decided to branch out into rats, as it were!

However disaster struck that evening - one of the babies escaped from the
cage while we were having a look at it, and disappeared behind the wardrobe!
Daughter was distraught, and I wasn't too happy either!  Two and a half
hours (and a wrecked bedroom) later we managed to scoop him up and put him
back with his bewildered brother.

My problem now is that Charlie (the escapee) is now extremely nervous.
Harvey (his brother) is becoming inquisitive and coming towards us when we
come to the cage, but Charlie hides whenever we are there.  We want to show
him that we mean well, and don't want to frighten him, but I'm afraid that
his bad experience has put him off us.

What can we do to coax him out, and start becoming friends with us?

Any ideas?

Thanks, Claire

 
 
 

New rat owner - advice needed!

Post by Claire Coo » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Thanks for the link - a great site which I enjoyed a lot.

Poor little Charlie is still really nervous, but Harvey is much bolder,
***ing and nibbling our hands.  I just hope that our scent on Harvey will
encourage Charlie to join in.  He is also much smaller than his brother, and
he just looks sort of sad.  I just want to pick him up and reassure him, but
he won't let me!!

Claire

Quote:
> On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:02:15 -0000, "Claire Cook"

> Hello, sorry about your little mishap.  I'm also a new rat owner, and
> I found a site that may help you, goto
> http://www.moonsgarden.com/;It has an article about
> what to do if your rat gets loose and is scared.  Hope this helps!

> Ozzfreak

> >Hi

> >I'm a very new rat owner - I bought two baby boys on Saturday, supposedly
> >for my daughter but I'm just as fascinated as she is!  We've had hamsters
> >before, but decided to branch out into rats, as it were!

> >However disaster struck that evening - one of the babies escaped from the
> >cage while we were having a look at it, and disappeared behind the
wardrobe!
> >Daughter was distraught, and I wasn't too happy either!  Two and a half
> >hours (and a wrecked bedroom) later we managed to scoop him up and put
him
> >back with his bewildered brother.

> >My problem now is that Charlie (the escapee) is now extremely nervous.
> >Harvey (his brother) is becoming inquisitive and coming towards us when
we
> >come to the cage, but Charlie hides whenever we are there.  We want to
show
> >him that we mean well, and don't want to frighten him, but I'm afraid
that
> >his bad experience has put him off us.

> >What can we do to coax him out, and start becoming friends with us?

> >Any ideas?

> >Thanks, Claire

 
 
 

New rat owner - advice needed!

Post by Evelyn Woolsto » Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Some rats are naturally more timid than others, just like some people.  Rats
are usually very good at getting over trauma. Food is the key

Instead of just leaving a full food dish in their cage all the time (unless
you have to leave them for any length of time), feed them 4 times a day by
hand. Put your hand next to Charlie's bedroom door (rats like to have a box
they can sleep in - tissue boxes work well) and wait patiently.  If Charlie
won't take normal food from your hand then try a few treats.  Possibles are,
ripe banana, cooked carrot, broccoli, cooked or raw, fruit yoghurt on your
finger but no chocolate, sweet stuff or lettuce: these are keenly eaten but
are really bad for them.  Only give really tiny bits of this food each time
so he really has to work for it.  Once you have got him to take a bit of
food then you can hold your hand a bit further away so he has to reach out
of his den to get to you.  If he won't eat this way then you will have to
simply have to wait for two days, putting the bowl back in the cage and try
again then.  Rats get bolder as they get older.  Male rats tend to be more
laid back that females.  If Charlie gets used to taking food from your hand
then you can get him out when a meal is due and give him food treats on your
knee.  If your daughter is very young or quick moving, you may have to do
this yourself the first few times.

Ensure the room is kept quiet during this, although it should normally have
the usual household noises in it.

And that reminds me, if the cage is usually kept in a bedroom or shed, move
it into the room you are usually in.  The rats will soon get used to the
noises you make and seeing you move around and they can hide in their dens
if it worries them.  But they will be far less nervous if you do this.  You
can always put the cage back in the bedroom when they are tame enough to
spend lots of time out of their cage and on your shoulder.

Love
Evelyn


Quote:
> Thanks for the link - a great site which I enjoyed a lot.

> Poor little Charlie is still really nervous, but Harvey is much bolder,
>***ing and nibbling our hands.  I just hope that our scent on Harvey will
> encourage Charlie to join in.  He is also much smaller than his brother,
and
> he just looks sort of sad.  I just want to pick him up and reassure him,
but
> he won't let me!!

> Claire


> > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:02:15 -0000, "Claire Cook"

> > Hello, sorry about your little mishap.  I'm also a new rat owner, and
> > I found a site that may help you, goto
> > http://www.moonsgarden.com/;It has an article about
> > what to do if your rat gets loose and is scared.  Hope this helps!

> > Ozzfreak

> > >Hi

> > >I'm a very new rat owner - I bought two baby boys on Saturday,
supposedly
> > >for my daughter but I'm just as fascinated as she is!  We've had
hamsters
> > >before, but decided to branch out into rats, as it were!

> > >However disaster struck that evening - one of the babies escaped from
the
> > >cage while we were having a look at it, and disappeared behind the
> wardrobe!
> > >Daughter was distraught, and I wasn't too happy either!  Two and a half
> > >hours (and a wrecked bedroom) later we managed to scoop him up and put
> him
> > >back with his bewildered brother.

> > >My problem now is that Charlie (the escapee) is now extremely nervous.
> > >Harvey (his brother) is becoming inquisitive and coming towards us when
> we
> > >come to the cage, but Charlie hides whenever we are there.  We want to
> show
> > >him that we mean well, and don't want to frighten him, but I'm afraid
> that
> > >his bad experience has put him off us.

> > >What can we do to coax him out, and start becoming friends with us?

> > >Any ideas?

> > >Thanks, Claire

 
 
 

New rat owner - advice needed!

Post by Claire Coo » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Thanks for the advice.  I'm glad to say Charlie is cheering up a little, but
still won't come to see us.  Harvey however is really friendly, and eats all
the time.  He's now MUCH bigger than his brother, but perhaps Charlie is
just a smaller rat?  He was smaller when we bought him.

I would love to have the cage downstairs, but our 3 marauding cats would
probably think I'd brought them a present!  We keep the door locked to Sam's
bedroom, to avoid mishaps!  But we do go in there a lot - Sam is 14 so
spends a fair amount of time in her room.

I am still persevering with little Charlie, and hopefully he'll eventually
forgive us for his fright on the first day.  He was tempted by a small piece
of weetabix today, but his brother stole it from him eventually!  (which is
why he's a much bigger boy - he keeps eating all the food!)

Thanks again, and I'll give it a try and let you know.

Claire

Quote:
> Some rats are naturally more timid than others, just like some people.
Rats
> are usually very good at getting over trauma. Food is the key

> Instead of just leaving a full food dish in their cage all the time
(unless
> you have to leave them for any length of time), feed them 4 times a day by
> hand. Put your hand next to Charlie's bedroom door (rats like to have a
box
> they can sleep in - tissue boxes work well) and wait patiently.  If
Charlie
> won't take normal food from your hand then try a few treats.  Possibles
are,
> ripe banana, cooked carrot, broccoli, cooked or raw, fruit yoghurt on your
> finger but no chocolate, sweet stuff or lettuce: these are keenly eaten
but
> are really bad for them.  Only give really tiny bits of this food each
time
> so he really has to work for it.  Once you have got him to take a bit of
> food then you can hold your hand a bit further away so he has to reach out
> of his den to get to you.  If he won't eat this way then you will have to
> simply have to wait for two days, putting the bowl back in the cage and
try
> again then.  Rats get bolder as they get older.  Male rats tend to be more
> laid back that females.  If Charlie gets used to taking food from your
hand
> then you can get him out when a meal is due and give him food treats on
your
> knee.  If your daughter is very young or quick moving, you may have to do
> this yourself the first few times.

> Ensure the room is kept quiet during this, although it should normally
have
> the usual household noises in it.

> And that reminds me, if the cage is usually kept in a bedroom or shed,
move
> it into the room you are usually in.  The rats will soon get used to the
> noises you make and seeing you move around and they can hide in their dens
> if it worries them.  But they will be far less nervous if you do this.
You
> can always put the cage back in the bedroom when they are tame enough to
> spend lots of time out of their cage and on your shoulder.

> Love
> Evelyn



> > Thanks for the link - a great site which I enjoyed a lot.

> > Poor little Charlie is still really nervous, but Harvey is much bolder,
> >***ing and nibbling our hands.  I just hope that our scent on Harvey
will
> > encourage Charlie to join in.  He is also much smaller than his brother,
> and
> > he just looks sort of sad.  I just want to pick him up and reassure him,
> but
> > he won't let me!!

> > Claire



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Quote:
> > > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:02:15 -0000, "Claire Cook"

> > > Hello, sorry about your little mishap.  I'm also a new rat owner, and
> > > I found a site that may help you, goto
> > > http://www.moonsgarden.com/;It has an article about
> > > what to do if your rat gets loose and is scared.  Hope this helps!

> > > Ozzfreak

> > > >Hi

> > > >I'm a very new rat owner - I bought two baby boys on Saturday,
> supposedly
> > > >for my daughter but I'm just as fascinated as she is!  We've had
> hamsters
> > > >before, but decided to branch out into rats, as it were!

> > > >However disaster struck that evening - one of the babies escaped from
> the
> > > >cage while we were having a look at it, and disappeared behind the
> > wardrobe!
> > > >Daughter was distraught, and I wasn't too happy either!  Two and a
half
> > > >hours (and a wrecked bedroom) later we managed to scoop him up and
put
> > him
> > > >back with his bewildered brother.

> > > >My problem now is that Charlie (the escapee) is now extremely
nervous.
> > > >Harvey (his brother) is becoming inquisitive and coming towards us
when
> > we
> > > >come to the cage, but Charlie hides whenever we are there.  We want
to
> > show
> > > >him that we mean well, and don't want to frighten him, but I'm afraid
> > that
> > > >his bad experience has put him off us.

> > > >What can we do to coax him out, and start becoming friends with us?

> > > >Any ideas?

> > > >Thanks, Claire