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Post by Harve » Mon, 14 Aug 2000 04:00:00



TURN OFF YOUR CAP LOCK.
Quote:

> I HAVE REALLY THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT GETTING MY BUNNY A PLAYMATE. I HAVE
> HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY TO GET A FEMALE SPAYED BUNNY TO BOND WITH MY
> MALE. WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH GETTING A NEUTERED MALE TO BE MY BUNNY'S
> FRIEND? WHY WOULD A SPAYED FEMALE BE BETTER? PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT
> YOU THINK.

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Post by Bil and/or Rhonda Surmo » Mon, 14 Aug 2000 04:00:00


I just wanted to thank everyone for their encouraging emails and
responses to my new situation with Misha and Mauli.  I'm still not
totally sure that I  did the right thing, rescuing Mauli from the
spca....but he is sweet..andI'm counting the days until the neuter on
Wed.  I know I should have gotten misha a girl friend...but maybe two
neutered boys can be friends!  Right now we've got the peeing olympics
here...and I've told Misha that if he doesn't stop peeing on the carpet
by his litterbox...then it will be him we get adopt out! ;-)  I think
Misha is adjusting to Mauli...he eats sleeps lays etc...the
same...except that he wants to continue peeing on the carpet by his
box...Misha isn't caged so life is good for him, except that a rabbit is
in his old cage..but Misha does hop up and they touch noses for
awhile..no snorting anymore...so hopefully it will go okay.  Misha and I
are still trying to adjust to the smells of this little guy..he is
eating pellets and hay...but sure has a lot of extra cecals flying
around....and my husband said it right...this little guy smells like
Mexican food!  Is that a non neutered thing? Or are we just cleaning out
the insides out??  How long do I really have to wait after the
neutering?  I think another month of this will kill me....I'm still not
sure I did the right thing..Misha is old...and well behaved and free to
roam...and Mauli...well...he's young and mischevious!  Mauli has a bit
of a wet nose....is this a symptom of pasteurella?  Maybe I'll have
thevet check it out on Wed....

Counting the days till the neuter...so we know if these two can work it
out!

Miriam...I just checked your bunny page again...you are amazing!  I
can't imagine how you do it with so many...having two just about kills
me rightnow....and if they don't get along and stop the messes....I will
go crazy!  I have no time for anything but them right now!  And an aside
with Onyx...what an amazing experience she is going through..and not
giving up...she is one special bunny!  Hang onto her!  

rhonda

 
 
 

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Post by Rhond » Mon, 14 Aug 2000 04:00:00



Hello Rhonda,

I'm behind on the group -- but congratulations on your new little
friend! I read your first email about him and thought "she's going to
get him, this was meant to be". I was very happy to read your second one
that he was with you, out playing by the lake.

Quote:
> I'm still not
> totally sure that I  did the right thing, rescuing Mauli from the
> spca....but he is sweet..andI'm counting the days until the neuter on
> Wed.  

There's going to be a big period of adjustment for all of you, I'm sure
you know that. I've read many time about the "honeymoon" period when you
bring two rabbits together, but didn't quite fathom the mess until we
did that with two of our own! It DOES calm down and they eventually will
be better with their litter box habits. I think you just have to gather
up every ounce of patience you have and literally wade your wade through
it for the moment.

As for doing the right thing, I've had doubts every time we've brought
home a new pet. It upsets the applecart and I think -- what have we
done! It was so calm before this! It takes time and belief in your new
little guy. Somehow, you look into their eyes and know that you can
perservere. They need you, and they don't know quite yet how to be a
good bunny. All they know is that they're e***d, have a new home, a
new friend, and many, many places to mark as their very own! Whoopeee,
let the good times roll!

Quote:
> but Misha does hop up and they touch noses for
> awhile..no snorting anymore...so hopefully it will go okay.

That's great! I hope this is the beginning of a beautiful relationship.

 > and my husband said it right...this little guy smells like

Quote:
> Mexican food!  

How funny! You sure he shouldn't have a name like Salsa?

Mauli is a good name, Hawaiians are very laid back so there's hope on
the horizon for Mauli.

Quote:
>  How long do I really have to wait after the
> neutering?  I think another month of this will kill me....

I've never tried bonding a newly neutered male rabbit, but I have read
it takes about a month for all of the hormones to leave. I know Buns
stopped his peeing outside the litterbox in about a week.

I would ask the vet about the wet nose. Both of our current rabbits got
damp noses when I brought them home, and they did not have them at the
rabbit rescue. They will occaisionally still get damp noses -- I really
think it's allergies or other smells (maybe the cat litter box). The vet
said she did not believe either one had respiratory infections. I'd just
talk to the vet and watch for white discharge.

Keep us posted about what's happening there, and good luck to Mauli on
Wednesday!

--
                                        -Rhonda
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Post by kathry » Mon, 14 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Rhonda,
I'm glad that things are looking a little better. just give it time. once
both males are neutered the fight for territory won't be nearly so terrible.
As for the peeing by the litter box... I think he's making a point to you.
he's letting you and the new bunny know that this is his house and there's
nothing anyone can do about it. =) If Misha isn't happy with a new bunny in
his cage, is it possible to get another cage? Keep us posted and good luck
with your bunnies!
HUGS!!
Kathryn


Quote:
> I just wanted to thank everyone for their encouraging emails and
> responses to my new situation with Misha and Mauli.  I'm still not
> totally sure that I  did the right thing, rescuing Mauli from the
> spca....but he is sweet..andI'm counting the days until the neuter on
> Wed.  I know I should have gotten misha a girl friend...but maybe two
> neutered boys can be friends!  Right now we've got the peeing olympics
> here...and I've told Misha that if he doesn't stop peeing on the carpet
> by his litterbox...then it will be him we get adopt out! ;-)  I think
> Misha is adjusting to Mauli...he eats sleeps lays etc...the
> same...except that he wants to continue peeing on the carpet by his
> box...Misha isn't caged so life is good for him, except that a rabbit is
> in his old cage..but Misha does hop up and they touch noses for
> awhile..no snorting anymore...so hopefully it will go okay.  Misha and I
> are still trying to adjust to the smells of this little guy..he is
> eating pellets and hay...but sure has a lot of extra cecals flying
> around....and my husband said it right...this little guy smells like
> Mexican food!  Is that a non neutered thing? Or are we just cleaning out
> the insides out??  How long do I really have to wait after the
> neutering?  I think another month of this will kill me....I'm still not
> sure I did the right thing..Misha is old...and well behaved and free to
> roam...and Mauli...well...he's young and mischevious!  Mauli has a bit
> of a wet nose....is this a symptom of pasteurella?  Maybe I'll have
> thevet check it out on Wed....

> Counting the days till the neuter...so we know if these two can work it
> out!

> Miriam...I just checked your bunny page again...you are amazing!  I
> can't imagine how you do it with so many...having two just about kills
> me rightnow....and if they don't get along and stop the messes....I will
> go crazy!  I have no time for anything but them right now!  And an aside
> with Onyx...what an amazing experience she is going through..and not
> giving up...she is one special bunny!  Hang onto her!

> rhonda

 
 
 

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Post by Darcie, Molly & Marvi » Tue, 15 Aug 2000 04:00:00




Quote:
> I just wanted to thank everyone for their encouraging emails and
> responses to my new situation with Misha and Mauli.  I'm still not
> totally sure that I  did the right thing, rescuing Mauli from the
> spca....but he is sweet..andI'm counting the days until the neuter on
> Wed.  I know I should have gotten misha a girl friend...but maybe two
> neutered boys can be friends!  Right now we've got the peeing olympics
> here...

Hi Rhonda,

I really think you did the right thing.  I really had my doubts after we
brought Marvin home.  Molly hated him, for one thing.  A neuter and several
car rides later, we are making a lot of progress, though.  I think the
neuter will make a really big difference.  In the meantime, you have the
chance to get to know another bunny.  That's been the fun part here.  Marvin
is Molly's opposite in many ways.  He cracks us up all the time with his
puppy antics!
The pee...oh yes, the pee...you'll be relieved to know that has slowed down
here.  I put another litterbox in the livingroom where they decided they had
to go. (We're now a 4 litterbox house-ugh!)  That helped a lot-now they at
least have a target.
I'll be looking forward to your updates!

Darcie

 
 
 

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Post by Bil and/or Rhonda Surmo » Tue, 15 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Hi!

Kathryn...yes I suppose I could use another cage...but I figured that
this one would be okay...besides...Misha doesn't use it anymore
really...at least not the top caged part..he just used the bottom
tray...who knew he'd be so spoiled and selfish!;-)  
Mauli was out tonight with us...sans Misha who had to stay in the
bedroom...Mauli was so cute..he was out for about an hour...and jumped
in his litterbox when he had to go... but he seemed so happy to bounce
around the livingroom over and over again..but he really wanted to come
up to us..for a quick pat and then he was off again.  It was nice to see
himso well behaved and happy.  Yes I know Misha isn't too happy...but he
is so spoiled and cage free... I really hope he'll like having a friend
eventually....three more days till the neuter... interestingly
enough...when mauli is out of his cage..he isn't nearly as hot to trot
as when he is in his cage...

BTW...do all baby bunnies have excess cecals?? Mauli seems to have a
lot sticking around here...or perhaps it is just really runny poop..but
it looks more like cecals.... What is he getting too much of then?  He's
on unlimited timothy hay and pellets....and very few veggies in the
morning...

Ps...do others with mini lops have waterbottles or bowls...Mauli has a
bowl but his ears seem to hang in it??

 
 
 

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Post by Norm » Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:50:38


Quote:
>BTW...do all baby bunnies have excess cecals?? Mauli seems to have a
>lot sticking around here...or perhaps it is just really runny poop..but
>it looks more like cecals.... What is he getting too much of then?  He's
>on unlimited timothy hay and pellets....and very few veggies in the
>morning...

Hi Rhonda,
My 2 month old Holland lop has about 8 or more extra clusters of cecals that
she just leaves*** around  ( to walk and lie in ;) and I was worried that
her cecum was overworking but the vet said not to worry ....but I am.
Any answers would be appreciated.

Norma & Friends
http://www.moonsgarden.com/

 
 
 

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Post by Deli » Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Hi Rhonda and Norma,

My Harriet Bunny does this too.  I think it may be the pellets,
because she has done this ever since I've had her.  She's about
6 months now, and I'm starting to cut down her pellets.  The
problem hasn't gone away, however.  If you ask me again in
another month, maybe we'll have an answer.

Delia

Quote:

> Hi Rhonda,
> My 2 month old Holland lop has about 8 or more extra clusters of cecals that
> she just leaves*** around  ( to walk and lie in ;) and I was worried that
> her cecum was overworking but the vet said not to worry ....but I am.
> Any answers would be appreciated.

 
 
 

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Post by Norm » Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:13:23


Thanks Delia,
I am looking forward to cutting down her pellets also but she's too young as
yet.
I won't be starting her on veggies till she's at least 4 months old.
I've drastically altered all the other buns diet from free fed pellets and
veggies to 2 bowls of a variety of greens a day with a sprinkling of pellets on
the top of the supper salad...carrots and fruit every once in awhile  and hay
everywhere you look <G>...
Bella Lysa just had her bladder flushed (4 flushes) to remove sand and some of
it was forming into stones (or harder sand??) on the walls of her bladder due
to  genes and/or diet.
Thats what made me change their diets so I hope this works ...time will tell.
8 buns on salads...that hard part is washing and drying them! tons and tons and
tons of greens!!

Norma & Friends
http://members.aol.com/nkmolly/rabbits/index.html

 
 
 

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Post by Deli » Fri, 18 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> I've drastically altered all the other buns diet from free fed pellets and
> veggies to 2 bowls of a variety of greens a day with a sprinkling of pellets on
> the top of the supper salad...carrots and fruit every once in awhile  and hay
> everywhere you look <G>...

Like having "Pellet Dressing" on the salads?  What a great idea!

Quote:
> Bella Lysa just had her bladder flushed (4 flushes) to remove sand and some of
> it was forming into stones (or harder sand??) on the walls of her bladder due
> to  genes and/or diet.
> Thats what made me change their diets so I hope this works ...time will tell.
> 8 buns on salads...that hard part is washing and drying them!

I'm sorry to hear about Bella Lysa.  I hope she's better.  
I would think that the hard part of the salads is to make sure you
have enough room in the refrigerator.  ;)  

Delia

 
 
 

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Post by Norm » Fri, 18 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Did I neglect to mention that we went out last week and bought a rabbit
refrigerator?
I think that I'd rather clean out litter pans then wash and dry tons of veggies
lol.
Norma & Friends
http://members.aol.com/nkmolly/rabbits/index.html