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Forget Filter Baskets

Post by Bill Appe » Wed, 03 Dec 1997 04:00:00



I hate filter baskets. Those are the little baskets that are connected
to your pump intake to insure that nothing (like baby fish) will jam the
impeller. They are only found on external pumps (also pool pumps).
Anyhoo, mine was constantly clogging with algae and it was painful to
clean and sometimes it would leak air if not sealed perfectly. I just
got the perfect solution. Remove it completely and use a piece of PVC
pipe as your pond intake. You can buy it (a sandpoint) with slits cut
in it or cut them yourself with a hacksaw. You will want several
hundred. Since the pipe represents a convex surface to incoming water
it is very difficult to plug up. I know a big pond at Water Garden Gems
here in Texas that has been using this for years and never had to clean
it. I dont believe filter baskets have any place in ponding now. Free at
last! There is no need to glue in this last piece of PVC just as long
as the entire thing is below water level. That way you can reach down
and remove it easily if you want. I would appreciate any other thoughts
on the subject. Filter baskets DO have a place in swimming pools, of
course.


 
 
 

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Post by Steve Johnso » Sun, 07 Dec 1997 04:00:00


I keep my Little Giant in a filter basket. The difference is I also fill the
basket with lava rock. It does need to be cleaned about three times a
season.  The basket is about 15" X 15" X 15" deep.

Steve Johnson

http://lornet.com/~alside/pond.htm

Zone 5 Littleton, CO

Bill Appel

Quote:
>I hate filter baskets. Those are the little baskets that are connected
>to your pump intake to insure that nothing (like baby fish) will jam the
>impeller. They are only found on external pumps (also pool pumps).
>Anyhoo, mine was constantly clogging with algae and it was painful to
>clean and sometimes it would leak air if not sealed perfectly. I just
>got the perfect solution. Remove it completely and use a piece of PVC
>pipe as your pond intake. You can buy it (a sandpoint) with slits cut
>in it or cut them yourself with a hacksaw. You will want several
>hundred. Since the pipe represents a convex surface to incoming water
>it is very difficult to plug up. I know a big pond at Water Garden Gems
>here in Texas that has been using this for years and never had to clean
>it. I dont believe filter baskets have any place in ponding now...

 
 
 

Forget Filter Baskets

Post by shfw.. » Tue, 09 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>I keep my Little Giant in a filter basket. The difference is I also fill the
>basket with lava rock. It does need to be cleaned about three times a
>season.  The basket is about 15" X 15" X 15" deep.

>Steve Johnson

>http://lornet.com/~alside/pond.htm

>Zone 5 Littleton, CO

>Bill Appel
>>I hate filter baskets. Those are the little baskets that are connected
>>to your pump intake to insure that nothing (like baby fish) will jam the
>>impeller. They are only found on external pumps (also pool pumps).
>>Anyhoo, mine was constantly clogging with algae and it was painful to
>>clean and sometimes it would leak air if not sealed perfectly. I just
>>got the perfect solution. Remove it completely and use a piece of PVC
>>pipe as your pond intake. You can buy it (a sandpoint) with slits cut
>>in it or cut them yourself with a hacksaw. You will want several
>>hundred. Since the pipe represents a convex surface to incoming water
>>it is very difficult to plug up. I know a big pond at Water Garden Gems
>>here in Texas that has been using this for years and never had to clean
>>it. I dont believe filter baskets have any place in ponding now...

Ok, except I run a skimmer, and it seems to me it NEEDS to have a
basket or I am going to have a lot of junk in my pump whern the wind
blows.  What else might work?  I don't much like that basket either.

MC

Go right ahead and spam me - and you'll regret the day you were born.

 
 
 

Forget Filter Baskets

Post by Bill Appe » Tue, 09 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> Ok, except I run a skimmer, and it seems to me it NEEDS to have a
> basket or I am going to have a lot of junk in my pump whern the wind
> blows.  What else might work?  I don't much like that basket either.

> MC

Dear MC:

OUCH! Excellent point. Sorry, I do not see a a way to avoid a basket if
you have a skimmer. I know this is unpopular, but I do not believe in
skimmers, either in ponds. A lot of people swear by them but I finally
disconnected mine and saw no change in water quality. I am not
suggesting that this is the best choice for everyone, however! Thanks
for a good post.


 
 
 

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Post by Jim Stroh » Tue, 09 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Ditto on the sandpoint intake.

My 3500-gallon pond w/ 2000 gallon/hr pump into two sink filters
does just fine with one.  I haven't had to clean the intake
at all this year since bringing the pond up in July.

 
 
 

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Post by shfw.. » Wed, 10 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>> Ok, except I run a skimmer, and it seems to me it NEEDS to have a
>> basket or I am going to have a lot of junk in my pump whern the wind
>> blows.  What else might work?  I don't much like that basket either.

>> MC

>Dear MC:

>OUCH! Excellent point. Sorry, I do not see a a way to avoid a basket if
>you have a skimmer. I know this is unpopular, but I do not believe in
>skimmers, either in ponds. A lot of people swear by them but I finally
>disconnected mine and saw no change in water quality. I am not
>suggesting that this is the best choice for everyone, however! Thanks
>for a good post.



Ah, Bill...I was hoping you could suggest something other than that
basket that might protect my pump.  Cleaning out that basket is really
no fun.  I am also not too happy about the skimmer itself, but I live
up in the hills, and when the wind blows, I get a lot ofleaves in my
pond.  Also, I think the skimmer does a good job of increasing the
surface movement of the water, thus hopefully increasing the dissolved
O2 as well.  In truth, though, its a pain in the neck.

MC

Go right ahead and spam me - and you'll regret the day you were born.

 
 
 

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Post by Jan Jord » Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>>> Ok, except I run a skimmer, and it seems to me it NEEDS to have a
>>> basket or I am going to have a lot of junk in my pump whern the wind
>>> blows.  What else might work?  I don't much like that basket either.

>>> MC

>>Dear MC:

>>OUCH! Excellent point. Sorry, I do not see a a way to avoid a basket if
>>you have a skimmer. I know this is unpopular, but I do not believe in
>>skimmers, either in ponds. A lot of people swear by them but I finally
>>disconnected mine and saw no change in water quality. I am not
>>suggesting that this is the best choice for everyone, however! Thanks
>>for a good post.



>Ah, Bill...I was hoping you could suggest something other than that
>basket that might protect my pump.  Cleaning out that basket is really
>no fun.  I am also not too happy about the skimmer itself, but I live
>up in the hills, and when the wind blows, I get a lot ofleaves in my
>pond.  Also, I think the skimmer does a good job of increasing the
>surface movement of the water, thus hopefully increasing the dissolved
>O2 as well.  In truth, though, its a pain in the neck.

>MC

Is your skimmer basket the only inlet to your pump? We have a bottom
drain and skimmer inlet to the filter. To clean the skimmer (and only
after the wind has blown usually) just requires hooking it out and
rinsing it off and putting it back in. What's the big deal?

jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

 
 
 

Forget Filter Baskets

Post by shfw.. » Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>>>> Ok, except I run a skimmer, and it seems to me it NEEDS to have a
>>>> basket or I am going to have a lot of junk in my pump whern the wind
>>>> blows.  What else might work?  I don't much like that basket either.

>>>> MC

>>>Dear MC:

>>>OUCH! Excellent point. Sorry, I do not see a a way to avoid a basket if
>>>you have a skimmer. I know this is unpopular, but I do not believe in
>>>skimmers, either in ponds. A lot of people swear by them but I finally
>>>disconnected mine and saw no change in water quality. I am not
>>>suggesting that this is the best choice for everyone, however! Thanks
>>>for a good post.



>>Ah, Bill...I was hoping you could suggest something other than that
>>basket that might protect my pump.  Cleaning out that basket is really
>>no fun.  I am also not too happy about the skimmer itself, but I live
>>up in the hills, and when the wind blows, I get a lot ofleaves in my
>>pond.  Also, I think the skimmer does a good job of increasing the
>>surface movement of the water, thus hopefully increasing the dissolved
>>O2 as well.  In truth, though, its a pain in the neck.

>>MC

>Is your skimmer basket the only inlet to your pump? We have a bottom
>drain and skimmer inlet to the filter. To clean the skimmer (and only
>after the wind has blown usually) just requires hooking it out and
>rinsing it off and putting it back in. What's the big deal?

>jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
>Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

I also have a pipe on the bottom of the skimmer with holes that serves
as an inlet.  Cleaning the skimmer isn't all that bad, but I have to
do it pretty frequently, and this is a hassle when I have to be out of
town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

MC

Go right ahead and spam me - and you'll regret the day you were born.

 
 
 

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Post by Jan Jord » Tue, 16 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>I also have a pipe on the bottom of the skimmer with holes that serves
>as an inlet.  Cleaning the skimmer isn't all that bad, but I have to
>do it pretty frequently, and this is a hassle when I have to be out of
>town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

MC,

In other words, we need to find you a significant other? :)

jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

 
 
 

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Post by shfw.. » Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


>>I also have a pipe on the bottom of the skimmer with holes that serves
>>as an inlet.  Cleaning the skimmer isn't all that bad, but I have to
>>do it pretty frequently, and this is a hassle when I have to be out of
>>town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

>MC,

>In other words, we need to find you a significant other? :)

>jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
>Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

My wife usually accompanies me..

and besides, she doesn't like messing with the pond...just enjoys
feeding the fish..

MC

Go right ahead and spam me - and you'll regret the day you were born.

 
 
 

Forget Filter Baskets

Post by shfw.. » Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


>>I also have a pipe on the bottom of the skimmer with holes that serves
>>as an inlet.  Cleaning the skimmer isn't all that bad, but I have to
>>do it pretty frequently, and this is a hassle when I have to be out of
>>town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

>MC,

>In other words, we need to find you a significant other? :)

>jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
>Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

Hahahaha.....

my wife usually accompanies me on my business trips..besides....
she isn't one to mess with the pond.

MC
Go right ahead and spam me - and you'll regret the day you were born.

 
 
 

Forget Filter Baskets

Post by shfw.. » Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


>>I also have a pipe on the bottom of the skimmer with holes that serves
>>as an inlet.  Cleaning the skimmer isn't all that bad, but I have to
>>do it pretty frequently, and this is a hassle when I have to be out of
>>town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

>MC,

>In other words, we need to find you a significant other? :)

>jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
>Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

Well, my wife usually comes with me on trips...

besides, she doesn't like messing with the pond....just
enjoys feeding the fish.

MC

Go right ahead and spam me - and you'll regret the day you were born.

 
 
 

Forget Filter Baskets

Post by Jan Jord » Thu, 18 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>>>I also have a pipe on the bottom of the skimmer with holes that serves
>>>as an inlet.  Cleaning the skimmer isn't all that bad, but I have to
>>>do it pretty frequently, and this is a hassle when I have to be out of
>>>town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

>>MC,


>>In other words, we need to find you a significant other? :)

>MC replied:
>My wife usually accompanies me..
>and besides, she doesn't like messing with the pond...just enjoys
>feeding the fish..

Okay, so now you need a significant other ponder friend, that may be a
little more difficult. Are you a club joining type?

jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

 
 
 

Forget Filter Baskets

Post by shfw.. » Sun, 21 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


>>>>I also have a pipe on the bottom of the skimmer with holes that serves
>>>>as an inlet.  Cleaning the skimmer isn't all that bad, but I have to
>>>>do it pretty frequently, and this is a hassle when I have to be out of
>>>>town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

>>>MC,


>>>In other words, we need to find you a significant other? :)

>>MC replied:
>>My wife usually accompanies me..
>>and besides, she doesn't like messing with the pond...just enjoys
>>feeding the fish..

>Okay, so now you need a significant other ponder friend, that may be a
>little more difficult. Are you a club joining type?

>jan ~Keep 'em Thawed~
>Zone 6.5 S.Central WA

Yes, but in my area, I can't find any clubs...sigh.

(Los Angeles)

MC
Go right ahead and spam me - and you'll regret the day you were born.

 
 
 

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Post by Goldfis » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> ....
> >town.  If it isn't cleaned, things tend to get a bit messy.

> MC,

> In other words, we need to find you a significant other? :)

Oh, Jan... are you  in one of those dream  marriages where the spouse takes
care of the other's hobbies while she is gone?  I'm always afraid he'll
forget to feed the pets, much less clean a filter!

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