Moon's Graden

by **Cind** » Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:00:00

My plants still don't seem to be doing very well. I know we had a slow start
here in southeast Pennsylvania but at this stage in the game and from what
people say I think my plants should be thriving by now. Some of my lily leaves
get yellow looking. Some of the parrot feather and water hyacinths are also
looking faded and some hyacinth leaves even get dead brown. My water mint
looks straggly, new growth but not doing much.

My water tests are good, my pH is finally stable between 8.0 and 8.5, my salt
level is just .08% and I've added potash a few times. My water seems to go
green after the potash is added but plant still seem to be struggling. My pond
is in full sun most of the day, til very late afternoon.

What am I doing wrong or not doing right??? I have more plants coming this
week and don't want to kill them. Any suggestions???

})i({ Cindy })i({

If you think the grass is
greener on the other side,
get fertilizer!!!
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by **Ted** » Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I have had my pond up for a few weeks. I am of the mind to go "natural",
i.e,minimize additives. I have added biopond, which is the bacteria to get
things going and feed on what the algae would. Have not had any problems,
plants and fish doing fine. Maybe you are messing with your water too much?

Quote:

> I don't know how much salt .08 is but floating plants (parrot
feather,water
> hyacinths) will yellow with salted water - I put 1 1/2 lbs in 1000 US gals
> and all my floating plants were yellow and did not grow - looked like
> -- - I don't use it anymore and all my "floaters" look great and the
fish
> are healthy
> Gale :~)
> > My plants still don't seem to be doing very well. I know we had a slow
> start
> > here in southeast Pennsylvania but at this stage in the game and from
what
> > people say I think my plants should be thriving by now. Some of my lily
> leaves
> > get yellow looking. Some of the parrot feather and water hyacinths are
> also
> > looking faded and some hyacinth leaves even get dead brown. My water
mint
> > looks straggly, new growth but not doing much.

> > My water tests are good, my pH is finally stable between 8.0 and 8.5, my
> salt
> > level is just .08% and I've added potash a few times. My water seems to
> go
> > green after the potash is added but plant still seem to be struggling.
My
> pond
> > is in full sun most of the day, til very late afternoon.

> > What am I doing wrong or not doing right??? I have more plants coming
> this
> > week and don't want to kill them. Any suggestions???

> > })i({ Cindy })i({

> > If you think the grass is
> > greener on the other side,
> > get fertilizer!!!
> > : )
> > Live, Love, Laugh!!!

> > Don't lose sight of lifes simple treasures, they cost nothing yet are
> priceless

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by **Gale Pearc** » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I don't know how much salt .08 is but floating plants (parrot feather,water
hyacinths) will yellow with salted water - I put 1 1/2 lbs in 1000 US gals
and all my floating plants were yellow and did not grow - looked like
-- - I don't use it anymore and all my "floaters" look great and the fish
are healthy
Gale :~)

Quote:

> My plants still don't seem to be doing very well. I know we had a slow
start
> here in southeast Pennsylvania but at this stage in the game and from what
> people say I think my plants should be thriving by now. Some of my lily
leaves
> get yellow looking. Some of the parrot feather and water hyacinths are
also
> looking faded and some hyacinth leaves even get dead brown. My water mint
> looks straggly, new growth but not doing much.

> My water tests are good, my pH is finally stable between 8.0 and 8.5, my
salt
> level is just .08% and I've added potash a few times. My water seems to
go
> green after the potash is added but plant still seem to be struggling. My
pond
> is in full sun most of the day, til very late afternoon.

> What am I doing wrong or not doing right??? I have more plants coming
this
> week and don't want to kill them. Any suggestions???

> })i({ Cindy })i({

> If you think the grass is
> greener on the other side,
> get fertilizer!!!
> : )
> Live, Love, Laugh!!!

> Don't lose sight of lifes simple treasures, they cost nothing yet are

priceless

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by **Rod Farl** » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>...I've added potash a few times.

A few times, within the first month?
I usually wait until hyacinths start to show signs of potassium
deficiency (older foliage appears pale), then add a dose and it
greens right up within 2 days.
But it's a case of "enough is good, more isn't better". Don't want
to overdose with muriate of potash. There's a balance between
calcium, magnesium and potassium. Excess potassium will
cause magnesium deficiency.
The symptoms of K and Mg deficiencies are similar (pale foliage,
slow growth, older foliage dies).

Water hyacinth ought to be growing fast right now. Suggest using
it as your "indicator". Might try putting 1/2 teaspoon of Epsom salt
(magnesium sulfate) in a 5 gallon bucket of pond water, and dropping
a hyacinth in for 3 days. If it suddenly picks up, and sends out new
leaves and shoots within a week, then you've got your answer!

Mints and watercress grow fast in spring, but get leggy and don't
do well in the heat of July and August. Ignore them until September,
when they'll pick up again in the cooler weather.

Did the water lilies get a little fertilizer buried in their pots? (Again,
a little is good, but not too much and not near their roots. I'd guess
not over 1 teaspoon for a new lily? Buried at the opposite end of
the pot or tray from the tuber.)
- Rod

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by **Cind** » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Well I added potash about 3 times now, last time was when I posted this on 7/9.
The web site about "Managing Nutrients to Control Algae" says to add it every
2 weeks so I thought you needed to keep replacing it. When I noticed the
yellow color starting on the plants I added more the other day.

The hyacinths did sprout babies that I broke off about a week and a half ago
after they had a good bunch of roots of their own but they just haven't done
much since then and don't seem as dark green. They are kinda faded and some
new leaves are curling dead brown.

I'll run over to CVS and get the Epsom salt and see what happens. And if the
hyacinth picks up... my answer is add Epsom salt to the pond???

My lily I did put a regular flowering plant fertilizer stick in the pot when I
planted it but its probably near the tuber, not on the opposite end. : (

And here I was starting to feel pretty proud of myself thinking I'm really
learning a lot now. Guess I still have a long way to go. I can't even grow
the fast growing easy plants. : (

})i({ Cindy })i({

If you think the grass is
greener on the other side,
get fertilizer!!!
: )
Live, Love, Laugh!!!

Don't lose sight of lifes simple treasures, they cost nothing yet are priceless

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by **Bonnie Espenshad** » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Well I added potash about 3 times now, last time was when I posted this on 7/9.
> The web site about "Managing Nutrients to Control Algae" says to add it every
> 2 weeks so I thought you needed to keep replacing it. When I noticed the
> yellow color starting on the plants I added more the other day.

> The hyacinths did sprout babies that I broke off about a week and a half ago
> after they had a good bunch of roots of their own but they just haven't done
> much since then and don't seem as dark green. They are kinda faded and some
> new leaves are curling dead brown.

> I'll run over to CVS and get the Epsom salt and see what happens. And if the
> hyacinth picks up... my answer is add Epsom salt to the pond???

> My lily I did put a regular flowering plant fertilizer stick in the pot when I
> planted it but its probably near the tuber, not on the opposite end. : (

> And here I was starting to feel pretty proud of myself thinking I'm really
> learning a lot now. Guess I still have a long way to go. I can't even grow
> the fast growing easy plants. : (

> })i({ Cindy })i({

> If you think the grass is
> greener on the other side,
> get fertilizer!!!
> : )
> Live, Love, Laugh!!!

> Don't lose sight of lifes simple treasures, they cost nothing yet are priceless

Hi Cindy,
Maybe you are just trying to hard. Try to relax and enjoy the pond.

--
Bonnie
NJ

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by **Bonnie Lee Hil** » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hello,

Quote:

> Well I added potash about 3 times now, last time was when I posted this on 7/9.
> The web site about "Managing Nutrients to Control Algae" says to add it every
> 2 weeks so I thought you needed to keep replacing it. When I noticed the
> yellow color starting on the plants I added more the other day.

> The hyacinths did sprout babies that I broke off about a week and a half ago
> after they had a good bunch of roots of their own but they just haven't done
> much since then and don't seem as dark green. They are kinda faded and some
> new leaves are curling dead brown.

> I'll run over to CVS and get the Epsom salt and see what happens. And if the
> hyacinth picks up... my answer is add Epsom salt to the pond???

> My lily I did put a regular flowering plant fertilizer stick in the pot when I
> planted it but its probably near the tuber, not on the opposite end. : (

> And here I was starting to feel pretty proud of myself thinking I'm really
> learning a lot now. Guess I still have a long way to go. I can't even grow
> the fast growing easy plants. : (

> })i({ Cindy })i({

You water hyacinths may be burning if they are "curling dead brown". My
water hyacinths can't take the direct Texas sun. I had to build a frame
of shade cloth for them.

I always add some Epsom Salt whenever I add Muriate of Potash. My plants
will go yellow if I don't add both potassium and magnesium. I add a small
amount (2-4 ounces for 8,000 gallons) every week or two. When my plants
start to look "hungry", I drop in the K and Mg. My plants are in lava rock,
gravel, or "nothing". Therefore all the nutrients come from the fish poop.

Keep cool,

Bonnie Lee Hill
Dallas, Texas

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by **Rod Farl** » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>The web site about "Managing Nutrients to Control Algae" says to
>add it every 2 weeks so I thought you needed to keep replacing it.

Maybe that's appropriate for a heavily planted, fully established
pond? I would think mine is (I can only see about 1/10 of the
bottom anymore, through all the plants, and have a big veggie
filter as well), but I still only need about 1 dose a month in summer,
maybe 5 doses a year.
- Rod

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by **George Sulliva** » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Same here, for the last month mine have really gone downhill. Of course, a
lot of my land plants are not doing as well in all this heat. I checked the
internet today about 2:00 pm and temp was 103. I have taken some of mine and
put them in a shaded barrel.

George

Quote:

> Hello,

> > Well I added potash about 3 times now, last time was when I posted this
on 7/9.
> > The web site about "Managing Nutrients to Control Algae" says to add it
every
> > 2 weeks so I thought you needed to keep replacing it. When I noticed
the
> > yellow color starting on the plants I added more the other day.

> > The hyacinths did sprout babies that I broke off about a week and a half
ago
> > after they had a good bunch of roots of their own but they just haven't
done
> > much since then and don't seem as dark green. They are kinda faded and
some
> > new leaves are curling dead brown.

> > I'll run over to CVS and get the Epsom salt and see what happens. And
if the
> > hyacinth picks up... my answer is add Epsom salt to the pond???

> > My lily I did put a regular flowering plant fertilizer stick in the pot
when I
> > planted it but its probably near the tuber, not on the opposite end. :
(

> > And here I was starting to feel pretty proud of myself thinking I'm
really
> > learning a lot now. Guess I still have a long way to go. I can't even
grow
> > the fast growing easy plants. : (

> > })i({ Cindy })i({

> You water hyacinths may be burning if they are "curling dead brown". My
> water hyacinths can't take the direct Texas sun. I had to build a frame
> of shade cloth for them.

> I always add some Epsom Salt whenever I add Muriate of Potash. My plants
> will go yellow if I don't add both potassium and magnesium. I add a small
> amount (2-4 ounces for 8,000 gallons) every week or two. When my plants
> start to look "hungry", I drop in the K and Mg. My plants are in lava
rock,
> gravel, or "nothing". Therefore all the nutrients come from the fish poop.

> Keep cool,

> Bonnie Lee Hill
> Dallas, Texas

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by **Cind** » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Thanks everybody!!! Guess I was just overdoing trying to do everything right.
I added a little Epsom salt and will add a little each time I add potash...
which probably won't be til next year!!! : )

But I do relax and enjoy the pond everyday night!!!

})i({ Cindy })i({

If you think the grass is
greener on the other side,
get fertilizer!!!
: )
Live, Love, Laugh!!!

Don't lose sight of lifes simple treasures, they cost nothing yet are priceless

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by **rcai** » Mon, 17 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Cindy,

Darndest thing. I live near the West Grove/Kennet Square area of
Pennsylvania. I've experienced the exact plant problems that you have this
year. This is my fourth year with a pond and I've never had anything but
lush plant growth and blossoming until now.

I also used muriate of potash for the first time this year, applying about
the same amount that you did (read the same web site obviously). I did not
use any Epsom salt. My water hyacinth continues to multiply, but it's
getting crispy brown on the edges, even the new little offshoots. I lost
several lillies. The only two that are susrviving are losing pads rapidly.

I also believe I overfertilized at the same time I applied the Muraiate of
Potash. Instead of using my normal aquatabs, I broke up a few Jobe's
fertilizer spikes and put some in each pot. I think each chunk was probably
too big and burned out the plants.

My water tests are great, with absolutely no changes in results all year.
The water is crystal clear, and the fish are doing great.

I'd worry a little about your new plants. I bought a new lilly two weeks
ago, and although it's not rapidly declining, it's certainly not thriving.
I might start exchanging some water a bit at a time to try to flush out this
problem.

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by **Cind** » Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>I might start exchanging some water a bit at a time to try to flush out this
>problem.

Let me know if that helps!!!

})i({ Cindy })i({

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greener on the other side,
get fertilizer!!!
: )
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