Wind Pumps -- Please tell me more

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Wind Pumps -- Please tell me more

Post by Roxanne Jeko » Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:00:00



If you only need a small pump that does not need to run continuosly,
maybe a wind pump would be OK.

I am a ***sy bit biased though!!

Regards, Jim

Please Jim, tell us about wind pumps.  It sounds interesting!!!!!
Roxanne :-)

 
 
 

Wind Pumps -- Please tell me more

Post by Jim Bar » Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00




Quote:
>If you only need a small pump that does not need to run continuosly,
>maybe a wind pump would be OK.

>I am a ***sy bit biased though!!

>Regards, Jim

>Please Jim, tell us about wind pumps.  It sounds interesting!!!!!
>Roxanne :-)

Hi Roxanne,

I have responded in an Email, I do not wish toget flamed for blatant
advertising, especially since windpumps is my hobby, not my income!

Where can I get a dictionary of emoticons? I used to have one
somewhere....

Jim

Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
                 Best is the enemy of good enough
                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves

 
 
 

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Post by frank ruckma » Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:



>>If you only need a small pump that does not need to run continuosly,
>>maybe a wind pump would be OK.

>>I am a ***sy bit biased though!!

>>Regards, Jim

>>Please Jim, tell us about wind pumps.  It sounds interesting!!!!!
>>Roxanne :-)

>Hi Roxanne,

>I have responded in an Email, I do not wish toget flamed for blatant
>advertising, especially since windpumps is my hobby, not my income!

>Where can I get a dictionary of emoticons? I used to have one
>somewhere....

>Jim

>Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
>                 Best is the enemy of good enough
>                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves

Hi Jim. Could you send me a copy please? I don't think I'll build one but
you got me interested enough to want to learn more.
Thanks Frank
 
 
 

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Post by Jim Bar » Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00




Quote:


>>If you only need a small pump that does not need to run continuosly,
>>maybe a wind pump would be OK.

>>I am a ***sy bit biased though!!

>>Regards, Jim

>>Please Jim, tell us about wind pumps.  It sounds interesting!!!!!
>>Roxanne :-)

>Hi Roxanne,

>I have responded in an Email, I do not wish toget flamed for blatant
>advertising, especially since windpumps is my hobby, not my income!

>Where can I get a dictionary of emoticons? I used to have one
>somewhere....

>Jim

I just got a reply from my provider saying my email to you could not be
delivered!!!

ideas?

Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
                 Best is the enemy of good enough
                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves

 
 
 

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Post by Kellie Snide » Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Dear pond people...

I have seen a couple of posts which mention Wind Pumps.  I am VERY
interested!  I need to replace my pump and would LOVE to have a nature
powered job!  Where do I get info?  How much do they cost?  Are they a
big hassle?  Do they require much maintenance?  Can they be made from
scratch?  Do they look good?  And what about Sibyl?  Will she marry W.?
Not if he won't tell her the rest of the letters in his name!  (Okay, I
used to be a Woody Allen fan.  So sue me!)

Kellie

My Karma ran over my Dogma.
It was a Catastrophe.

 
 
 

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Post by Kellie Snide » Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:00:00


I cruised the net last night and found a catalog for Wind powered
submersible pumps... Atually it took a few emails to come up with the
catalog... but it's supposed to be sent to me soon.  I'll let you know
if it looks promising!

Quote:
> Kellie

> My Karma ran over my Dogma.
> It was a Catastrophe.

--
Kellie

My Karma ran over my Dogma.
It was a Catastrophe.

 
 
 

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Post by Jim Bar » Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:00:00




Quote:
>If you only need a small pump that does not need to run continuosly,
>maybe a wind pump would be OK.

>I am a ***sy bit biased though!!

>Regards, Jim

>Please Jim, tell us about wind pumps.  It sounds interesting!!!!!
>Roxanne :-)

I have tried to email you Roxanne but my messages are rejected.

?????

Jim

Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
                 Best is the enemy of good enough
                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves

 
 
 

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Post by Roxanne Jeko » Sun, 18 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:



>>If you only need a small pump that does not need to run continuosly,
>>maybe a wind pump would be OK.

>>I am a ***sy bit biased though!!

>>Regards, Jim

>>Please Jim, tell us about wind pumps.  It sounds interesting!!!!!
>>Roxanne :-)

>I have tried to email you Roxanne but my messages are rejected.

>?????

>Jim

>Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
>                 Best is the enemy of good enough
>                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves

Hi Jim!  For some reason, the newsgroup does not like my server
address!!!

I cannot get email directly from the newsgroup posts, never could.

PLEASE email me directly with the information at

about wind pumps.

Thanks,
Roxanne :-)

 
 
 

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Post by Kellie Snide » Mon, 19 Aug 1996 04:00:00


I've sent for some info on wind pumps and when I get it I will report
to the group... Do you have any info in the mean time??

--
Kellie

My Karma ran over my Dogma.
It was a Catastrophe.

 
 
 

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Post by Jim Bar » Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:00:00




Quote:
>I've sent for some info on wind pumps and when I get it I will report
>to the group... Do you have any info in the mean time??

I have sent very introductory bits and pieces about my own involvement
with small scale windpumps to several enquirers, including Kellie and
Roxanne.

I do not expect you all to buy my book, this is not a sales pitch but if
you DO have specific questions about what is involved I am happy to give
free advice.

But I do need specific questions.

LIKE how much water do you want to move, what head, how near to trees,
houses, etc

Best wishes,  Jim

Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
                 Best is the enemy of good enough
                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves

 
 
 

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Post by stine » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Jim,

Please tell us about wind pumps through the post.  My husband and I are
thinking about putting a small watergarden pond in our yard, but
due to the
area where the pond must be placed, it may be impossible to run
electricity
to that part of the yard.  Maybe a wind pump is just what we
need.  Thanks in
advance for the info.

Sue Stine
Dayton, Ohio  
==========Roxanne Jekot, 8/17/96==========

Quote:



>>If you only need a small pump that does not need to run continuosly,
>>maybe a wind pump would be OK.

>>I am a ***sy bit biased though!!

>>Regards, Jim

>>Please Jim, tell us about wind pumps.  It sounds interesting!!!!!
>>Roxanne :-)

>I have tried to email you Roxanne but my messages are rejected.

>?????

>Jim

>Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
>                 Best is the enemy of good enough
>                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves

Hi Jim!  For some reason, the newsgroup does not like my server
address!!!

I cannot get email directly from the newsgroup posts, never could.

PLEASE email me directly with the information at

about wind pumps.

Thanks,
Roxanne :-)

 
 
 

Wind Pumps -- Please tell me more

Post by Jeff Co » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
>I have seen a couple of posts which mention Wind Pumps.  I am VERY
>interested!  I need to replace my pump and would LOVE to have a nature
>powered job!  Where do I get info?  How much do they cost?  Are they a
>big hassle?  Do they require much maintenance?  Can they be made from
>scratch?  Do they look good?  And what about Sibyl?  Will she marry W.?
>Not if he won't tell her the rest of the letters in his name!  (Okay, I
>used to be a Woody Allen fan.  So sue me!)


wind pumps for small ponds.  I have corresponded with him but do not want to
go though the hassle of paying in pounds sterling and ordering a single book.
Perhaps we can get a group of USAers together and order a number of copies,
sent to one of us who will distribute to the rest (if that is OK with Jim?).
I will volunteer to be the distribution point if we can get things to jell.

Anyone else interested in this book?  ...Jeff

BTW, Here is what Jim has to say about his pumps:

  I have written a book on SMALL windpumps for small ponds.  The design
  can be implemented for about 60 to 300 pounds sterling in UK depending
  on how much you are prepared to do yourself.

  The pump will move about 1000 UK gallons per day in a light breese and a
  head of about two metres so you see we are talking small.

 
 
 

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Post by Phillip Daube » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Aren't wind pumps the same thing as windmills??  Maybe you could find a
book on windmills and do something that way.

I know.  I've seen those electric drill powered water pumps.  Could you
hook up some sort of wind powered device to turn one of those??  Just an
idea.

Phillip Dauben
http://www.netcom.com/~philli11/

 
 
 

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Post by Roxanne Jeko » Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>>I have seen a couple of posts which mention Wind Pumps.  I am VERY
>>interested!  I need to replace my pump and would LOVE to have a nature
>>powered job!  Where do I get info?  How much do they cost?  Are they a
>>big hassle?  Do they require much maintenance?  Can they be made from
>>scratch?  Do they look good?  And what about Sibyl?  Will she marry W.?
>>Not if he won't tell her the rest of the letters in his name!  (Okay, I
>>used to be a Woody Allen fan.  So sue me!)


>wind pumps for small ponds.  I have corresponded with him but do not want to
>go though the hassle of paying in pounds sterling and ordering a single book.
>Perhaps we can get a group of USAers together and order a number of copies,
>sent to one of us who will distribute to the rest (if that is OK with Jim?).
>I will volunteer to be the distribution point if we can get things to jell.

>Anyone else interested in this book?  ...Jeff

>BTW, Here is what Jim has to say about his pumps:

>  I have written a book on SMALL windpumps for small ponds.  The design
>  can be implemented for about 60 to 300 pounds sterling in UK depending
>  on how much you are prepared to do yourself.

>  The pump will move about 1000 UK gallons per day in a light breese and a
>  head of about two metres so you see we are talking small.

Hi Jeff!  Yes, I am interested!  Sounds like a wonderful idea, and thanks
for the offer to distribute.  Let me know what to do next!
Roxanne :-)
 
 
 

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Post by Jim Bar » Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00




Quote:
>Aren't wind pumps the same thing as windmills??  Maybe you could find a
>book on windmills and do something that way.

>I know.  I've seen those electric drill powered water pumps.  Could you
>hook up some sort of wind powered device to turn one of those??  Just an
>idea.

>Phillip Dauben
>http://www.moonsgarden.com/~philli11/

Hi Philip,

Very similar, but windmills are for converting wind energy into
*milling* energy usualy for wheat, and wind pumps are for pumping water.

The designs have a lot in common and I have no doubt that you could
build a wind pump around the classic 4 bladed (sail) windmill, but they
do not scale down very well

In Norfolk (UK), and Holland they used use windpumps to maintain water
levels in***s and those look very much like the classic windmills you
may be thinking of. Examples of these are the postmill, towermill,
Dutchmilll and scoopmill.

One design in Holland in 1634 was called the Wipmolen and moved the
water via an Archimedes screw.  (info from "Windpumps, a guide for
development engineers" from IT power, an excellent book)

The electric drill powered pumps you refer to run at very high speed and
are VERY inefficient at most lower speeds, They are not suitable for
wind power.

If you are going to use windpower you will probably rely on a lift pump
or a wind generator coupled to an electric pump

Cheers,  Jim

Jim Barr         Machine Conversation, Bedfordshire England
                 Best is the enemy of good enough
                 Leaves Rustle....Blades turn..... Water moves