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Mites?

Post by Josh » Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:05:03



Hi group!

Just noticed today that our mice (one more than the others) had some tiny
tiny dark "things" crawling on her. In my unprofessional opinion, I think I
can rule out fleas and/or ticks based on size.  Any ideas?

Here's a picture:

http://www.rit.edu/~jrl5207/mouse1.gif

Also, I definitely want to clean the tank, but am fairly certain that one or
two of the females are pregnant.  Would this stress them out enough to kill
the babies?

Thanks in advance,
Josh

 
 
 

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Post by Flykill » Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:48:52


Quote:
>In my unprofessional opinion, I think I
>can rule out fleas and/or ticks based on size.

look like bugs to me.  you can either put a small amount of puppy or kitten
flea powder in the bottom of their cage (the local pet stores here do it, I've
done it, never seen or heard of a problem), or you can take them to a vet and
have them injected with -- invectimin, I think, to kill the bugs.
--

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Post by Ratgir » Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:30:07




Quote:
>> In my unprofessional opinion, I think I
>> can rule out fleas and/or ticks based on size.

> look like bugs to me.  you can either put a small amount of puppy or kitten
> flea powder in the bottom of their cage (the local pet stores here do it, I've
> done it, never seen or heard of a problem), or you can take them to a vet and
> have them injected with -- invectimin, I think, to kill the bugs.

Ivermectin  .....  :-)

Ra***. XX

 
 
 

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Post by Josh » Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:41:23



Quote:
> >In my unprofessional opinion, I think I
> >can rule out fleas and/or ticks based on size.

> look like bugs to me.  you can either put a small amount of puppy or
kitten
> flea powder in the bottom of their cage (the local pet stores here do it,
I've
> done it, never seen or heard of a problem), or you can take them to a vet
and
> have them injected with -- invectimin, I think, to kill the bugs.

Thanks for the advice! Would taking it to the vet be more expensive than the
flea powder? If so, how much would an Invermectin shot be for three mice?

thanks,
Josh

 
 
 

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Post by Michael » Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:09:38


Josh, how did you take that mouse picture? I can't get mine to stand
still long enough! LOL.

A vet visit here is about 30 dollars plus whatever treatment and
medicine is needed. I have heard of using bird mite spay to treat mice
too. You can give Ivermicten paste oraly. I mixed it with a little
peanut butter so they would eat it. You give an amount about 1/3 the
size of a grain of rice once a week for 3 weeks. You can get it here
http://www.rmca.org/Merchandise/supplies.htm
but it takes several weeks to get it. You can also get a large tube of
it at any farm and ranch supply. It is a horse wormer. This chart gives
more details about it.
http://www.rmca.org/Articles/dchart.htm

 
 
 

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Post by shawnew » Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:08:20


Hi group....

We have experienced mites on several of our mice a few times and have used
HAGEN Shower & Bath for Hamsters, gerbils, white mice and guinea pigs.  It
says on the aerosol can that it kills fleas and deodorizes.  It sprays out
in the form of a foam.  We just spray a dime size amount on the back of the
mouse and spread it to all the areas necessary... it almost kills the mites
instantly...  of course you wash the cage completely and give new bedding,
but it works great.  We have never had a problem using it around pregnant
females.

Hope this helps some.

Kathy


Quote:
> Hi group!

> Just noticed today that our mice (one more than the others) had some tiny
> tiny dark "things" crawling on her. In my unprofessional opinion, I think
I
> can rule out fleas and/or ticks based on size.  Any ideas?

> Here's a picture:

> http://www.rit.edu/~jrl5207/mouse1.gif

> Also, I definitely want to clean the tank, but am fairly certain that one
or
> two of the females are pregnant.  Would this stress them out enough to
kill
> the babies?

> Thanks in advance,
> Josh

 
 
 

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Post by Josh » Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:05:33



Quote:
> I'm not sure about using it on pregnant mice.  The insert says not to be
> used on animals intended for food (meat livestock), so maybe it may do
> something to a pregnant mousie-mom.

Hmmm...this brings up another question...the main reason we're
keeping/breeding mice (other than having cute rodent companions of
course...) is for reptile food.  Does anyone know if these treatments could
pose a health problem for a snake or lizard?

Thanks everyone for your help!!!
-Josh

 
 
 

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Post by YSB » Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:58:05


Quote:
> pose a health problem for a snake or lizard?

Sorry, couldn't tell you anything about that... you should probably ask your
reptile specialist vet.

Y.

--
If a man knows, and knows that he knows, he is wise -- learn from him.
If a man knows, and knows not that he knows, he is asleep -- wake him.
If a man knows not, and knows that he knows not, he is a child -- teach him.
If a man knows not, and knows not that he knows not, he is a fool -- avoid
him.
 -- Ancient Chinese Proverb.

 
 
 

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Post by Ratgir » Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:42:30




Quote:


>>> In my unprofessional opinion, I think I
>>> can rule out fleas and/or ticks based on size.

>> look like bugs to me.  you can either put a small amount of puppy or
> kitten
>> flea powder in the bottom of their cage (the local pet stores here do it,
> I've
>> done it, never seen or heard of a problem), or you can take them to a vet
> and
>> have them injected with -- invectimin, I think, to kill the bugs.

> Thanks for the advice! Would taking it to the vet be more expensive than the
> flea powder? If so, how much would an Invermectin shot be for three mice?

> thanks,
> Josh

When my ratties got lice I opted for Ivermectin because flea powder would
have been a nightmare to use on 10 rats :-)  The Ivermectin shots cost about
2 (UK) for all 10, so I wouldn't think that 3 mice would be too expensive.

Ra***. XX

 
 
 

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Post by Ratgir » Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:45:16




Quote:
> Hi group....

> We have experienced mites on several of our mice a few times and have used
> HAGEN Shower & Bath for Hamsters, gerbils, white mice and guinea pigs.  It
> says on the aerosol can that it kills fleas and deodorizes.  It sprays out
> in the form of a foam.  We just spray a dime size amount on the back of the
> mouse and spread it to all the areas necessary... it almost kills the mites
> instantly...  of course you wash the cage completely and give new bedding,
> but it works great.  We have never had a problem using it around pregnant
> females.

This sounds like an even better option than Ivermectin to me.  With small
animals the dose is very difficult to get right, and I believe an overdose
can lead to neurological damage.  If I have any trouble with unwanted
crawlies in the future I might well give this a go if I can find some.

Ra***. XX

 
 
 

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Post by Ratgir » Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:51:24




Quote:
> Also, this may be just rumour, so I'm hoping someone who knows much more
> rodent lore (perhaps Ra*** ?  :) ) can comment on this, but I heard that
> sometimes wood shavings can harbor mites and that freezing them first kills
> the critters.

I believe bedding can carry bugs, and I am fairly certain that my first
encounter with lice was a result of infested bedding.  I have seen the
freezing method mentioned on many sites, and in newsgroups as a tried and
tested way of killing parasites, but I think, from what I remember, you need
to freeze the bedding for about 3 weeks to be sure.  I have never used this
method though, so I have no personal experience with it, but I would
probably try it if I thought my bedding was infested.

Ra***. XX

 
 
 

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Post by YSB » Wed, 02 Apr 2003 00:44:44


Thanks, that's good to know.  We use recycled paper pulp just in case, and
now I'm doubly glad for it!

You are, as always, a source of wisdom!

Yana

--
If a man knows, and knows that he knows, he is wise -- learn from him.
If a man knows, and knows not that he knows, he is asleep -- wake him.
If a man knows not, and knows that he knows not, he is a child -- teach him.
If a man knows not, and knows not that he knows not, he is a fool -- avoid
him.
 -- Ancient Chinese Proverb.

Quote:


> > Also, this may be just rumour, so I'm hoping someone who knows much more
> > rodent lore (perhaps Ra*** ?  :) ) can comment on this, but I heard
that
> > sometimes wood shavings can harbor mites and that freezing them first
kills
> > the critters.

> I believe bedding can carry bugs, and I am fairly certain that my first
> encounter with lice was a result of infested bedding.  I have seen the
> freezing method mentioned on many sites, and in newsgroups as a tried and
> tested way of killing parasites, but I think, from what I remember, you
need
> to freeze the bedding for about 3 weeks to be sure.  I have never used
this
> method though, so I have no personal experience with it, but I would
> probably try it if I thought my bedding was infested.

> Ra***. XX

 
 
 

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Post by Ratgir » Fri, 04 Apr 2003 02:01:11




Quote:
> Thanks, that's good to know.  We use recycled paper pulp just in case, and
> now I'm doubly glad for it!

> You are, as always, a source of wisdom!

;-)

Ra***. XX

 
 
 

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Post by YSB » Fri, 04 Apr 2003 07:12:44


Just asked our rodent vet, and she has no idea how it affects reptiles.
Ivermectin is not a product that is usually used in that area.  Please check
with yours!

Y.

--
If a man knows, and knows that he knows, he is wise -- learn from him.
If a man knows, and knows not that he knows, he is asleep -- wake him.
If a man knows not, and knows that he knows not, he is a child -- teach him.
If a man knows not, and knows not that he knows not, he is a fool -- avoid
him.
 -- Ancient Chinese Proverb.

Quote:



> > I'm not sure about using it on pregnant mice.  The insert says not to be
> > used on animals intended for food (meat livestock), so maybe it may do
> > something to a pregnant mousie-mom.

> Hmmm...this brings up another question...the main reason we're
> keeping/breeding mice (other than having cute rodent companions of
> course...) is for reptile food.  Does anyone know if these treatments
could
> pose a health problem for a snake or lizard?

> Thanks everyone for your help!!!
> -Josh