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Wild mouse release

Post by Maca » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:56:29



Does anybody here know about snake schedules and when they hunt?
My house is incredibly over run with wild mice and I catch and release
10 every other day.  I keep them for a few days to form a colony.  Tiny
ones I keep until they are old enough to at least have a chance at
survival in the wild and females with visible ***s I release back
into the house in case there is a litter waiting to be fed.  OLD mice
are also released back into the house.
   Anyway, I have been releasing them early in the day so they would
have ample daylight to find temporary shelter, but now need to re think
this.  The only time I see snakes is during the prime daylight hours and
of course mice are mainly nocturnal so I am probably screwing them over.
:^(
   I feel so bad when I turn them out knowing that most won't survive
very long.  I need to increase their chances anyway that I can.  Do you
think that they have the instincts to dig a burrow?
   It makes it harder that the majority look domestic.
   Is anyone interested in the story of Randy the wild mouse and why all
the wild's look domestic?
Say "Yes"!  I want to tell Randy's story.  He was born wild and died
wild, but still will be remembered as one of my all time unforgetable
favorites out of hundreds of domestics.

Pam

 
 
 

Wild mouse release

Post by Flykill » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:17:37


Quote:
>Does anybody here know about snake schedules and when they hunt?
>The only time I see snakes is during the prime daylight hours and
>of course mice are mainly nocturnal so I am probably screwing them over.

Snakes know when to catch their food.

Quote:
>   I feel so bad when I turn them out knowing that most won't survive
>very long.

Don't feel bad.  It's the life of a mouse.

Quote:
> Do you
>think that they have the instincts to dig a burrow?

Some do, some don't.  They all have their little skills, and they usually live
together in a group.

Quote:
>My house is incredibly over run with wild mice and I catch and release
>10 every other day.
>I release back
>into the house

Mice just about everywhere in the U.S. now carry Hanta Virus.  It is still
uncommon, but nastily fatal to humans 50% of the time, and frequently leaves
survivors mildly crippled.  I know mice are cute, but there is a reason they
are called vermin.  You may want to reconsider sharing your house with them.
Contact  your local vet or pest control agency and ask them about this.

"It wouldn't surprise me if Judy felt the same way T.K. does about people who
mess around with the forces of darkness."  (some japanese cartoon show)
"He told me he killed her.  He told me why.  And I said, 'OK'."  (some female
marrying a ***er)

 
 
 

Wild mouse release

Post by wend » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:01:10



Quote:
> Does anybody here know about snake schedules and when they hunt?
> My house is incredibly over run with wild mice and I catch and release
> 10 every other day.  I keep them for a few days to form a colony.  Tiny
> ones I keep until they are old enough to at least have a chance at
> survival in the wild and females with visible ***s I release back
> into the house in case there is a litter waiting to be fed.  OLD mice
> are also released back into the house.
>    Anyway, I have been releasing them early in the day so they would
> have ample daylight to find temporary shelter, but now need to re think
> this.  The only time I see snakes is during the prime daylight hours and
> of course mice are mainly nocturnal so I am probably screwing them over.
> :^(
>    I feel so bad when I turn them out knowing that most won't survive
> very long.  I need to increase their chances anyway that I can.  Do you
> think that they have the instincts to dig a burrow?
>    It makes it harder that the majority look domestic.
>    Is anyone interested in the story of Randy the wild mouse and why all
> the wild's look domestic?
> Say "Yes"!  I want to tell Randy's story.  He was born wild and died
> wild, but still will be remembered as one of my all time unforgetable
> favorites out of hundreds of domestics.

> Pam

*********
Hi Pam,

What a very nice, caring person you are!!!  Wild mice are just that wild and
should be released in my opinion and you are doing the right thing.  As
Flykiller has stated they do carry diseases, so one should be very careful.
I have seen said, that wild mice don't generally live very long in the wild,
I guess, maybe that's one of the reasons they breed so quickly, god moves in
mysterious ways and all that.

If I was in your position right now, I would be doing just as you are doing
and I also would worry what will happen to them etc. especially with regard
to snakes, yuk.  I don't know anything about snakes, but, it's case of
either catching the mice and letting them go, catching the mice and caging
them which, in my opinion is cruel or not catching them at all.

I would love to hear about Randy as I am sure all mouse loving people would,
looking forward to it.

Best of luck pam...

wendy ;o)))

 
 
 

Wild mouse release

Post by Flykill » Tue, 24 Jul 2001 04:25:22


Quote:
>> Snakes know when to catch their food.

>Yes, that is obvious.  My question was WHEN, what time of day do snakes hunt?
>so I
>can release the mice at a different time.

Don't know.  Rather than taking your cue from the snakes, try taking it from
the mice -- since mice do all their normal activities at night, you might try
releasing them early in the evening.

Quote:
>> Don't feel bad.  It's the life of a mouse.

>Thanks, but I don't feel better.  I know that that's their sorry lot in life,
>but
>when I take happy, healthy, beautiful little creatures out of my home and
>sentence
>them to probable death...I can't help but to feel terrible.  But it must be
>done.

If it must be done, then there's no point in worrying about it.  If you're
going to agonize over it, then I suggest you simply keep them all.  Get two
huge tanks, or perhaps a number of medium ones (easier to clean), and put every
male you catch into one and every female you catch into the other.  Not only
will this alleviate your ... feelings ... but it will alleviate and localize
your infestation problem.  You'll still have a billion mice, but at least they
won't be chewing on your walls and your wiring.  If you keep up this program,
using good traps to aggressively go after the mice, you might even eventually
rid your house of mice entirely.  I am, by the way, the inventor of the world's
perfect mouse trap.  No-one has beaten a path to my door, but if you'd like
I'll post the instructions on how to make it.  It's cheap, simple, and 99%
effective.

Quote:
>I had thought about the Hanta
>Virus and decided that if the population was contaminated then we'd all (me
>and
>pets) be very sick or dead by now.

Hanta has no effect on mice.  It lives in their intestines (what a virus is
doing there, I have no idea).  Humans get infected in their lungs when mouse
***dries out and powderizes and then becomes airborne.  This usually happens
when people sweep up or vacuum up old mouse crap.

"It wouldn't surprise me if Judy felt the same way T.K. does about people who
mess around with the forces of darkness."  (some japanese cartoon show)
"He told me he killed her.  He told me why.  And I said, 'OK'."  (some female
marrying a ***er)

 
 
 

Wild mouse release

Post by Flykill » Tue, 24 Jul 2001 04:34:28


Quote:
>I saw one several years
>ago and thought, "Oh, how cute.  One won't hurt anything".

(laughing evilly)  Yeah, the same thing happened to me.  I was watching TV one
day, and I saw a mouse run behind the couch.  I thought, "Cool.  Wildlife."  I
put out a little piece of bread for him, and he ran up to it, picked it up in
his front paws, and hopped away like a little kangaroo.  I thought, "Now _that_
is cute."  But he went and called all his buddies, and that _wasn't_ cute.  It
was them or us, and I chose us.

"It wouldn't surprise me if Judy felt the same way T.K. does about people who
mess around with the forces of darkness."  (some japanese cartoon show)
"He told me he killed her.  He told me why.  And I said, 'OK'."  (some female
marrying a ***er)

 
 
 

Wild mouse release

Post by Joch » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:41:47


Hi Pam,

Hehe.. I have never in my life heard of a person so accomodating to wild
mice in their home.  But kudos to you if you feel strongly about it :-),
well done.  Just in regard to the snakes issue, Flykiller was right in that
because mice are so active at night, the best time to release them is
probably early evening.  But I know here in Australia that the majority of
snakes do their hunting in the dusk hours.  You may have to trust your mice
to be able to take care of themselves.  Just because they seem 'lazily tame'
doesn't mean they have lost their instincts for survival.  Even domesticated
pet mice revert to natural instinct if the environmental conditions are
right.

You will probably find, however, that unless you are releasing them 2
counties over, they are merely coming back to your house.  They know a good
deal when they see one, and the homing instinct is incredibly strong.  I
know a person who had a pet mouse escape on her and completely vanish, only
to return a year later with a tribe of halfbred wild children!  So unless
you are taking them very far away to release them, it's probably wasting
your time because the same ones are coming back to live with you.

Good luck anyway.  If you like them, keep them.  But as everyone has said,
and you know, be careful.

-Joch

Quote:

> Does anybody here know about snake schedules and when they hunt?
> My house is incredibly over run with wild mice and I catch and release
> 10 every other day.  I keep them for a few days to form a colony.  Tiny
> ones I keep until they are old enough to at least have a chance at
> survival in the wild and females with visible ***s I release back
> into the house in case there is a litter waiting to be fed.  OLD mice
> are also released back into the house.
>    Anyway, I have been releasing them early in the day so they would
> have ample daylight to find temporary shelter, but now need to re think
> this.  The only time I see snakes is during the prime daylight hours and
> of course mice are mainly nocturnal so I am probably screwing them over.
> :^(
>    I feel so bad when I turn them out knowing that most won't survive
> very long.  I need to increase their chances anyway that I can.  Do you
> think that they have the instincts to dig a burrow?
>    It makes it harder that the majority look domestic.
>    Is anyone interested in the story of Randy the wild mouse and why all
> the wild's look domestic?
> Say "Yes"!  I want to tell Randy's story.  He was born wild and died
> wild, but still will be remembered as one of my all time unforgetable
> favorites out of hundreds of domestics.

> Pam