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Post by Davina Stuar » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:08:10



Hey all.. just wanted to make a quick introduction... we recently purchased
several mice for my step son who requested them for his birthday (he's 16
now... be afraid..) We started off by getting all the gear first, a critter
trail 2 and a critter trail 1, plus we had an old fish tank we could use as
well. then we got 2 mice. Peaches and Dangerous Beans.. Beans barely
survived a week before apparently being squashed in some sort of weird cage
accident.. so we then got 3 more mice, Tom, Jerry, and Morty, then followed
a few days later by 2 more little mice, Tutter and Squeak.  Tutter was my
favorite, the tiniest, cutest, friendliest.. she didn't look quite like the
others, her head was a little more rounded, but, she barely lived 24 hours
before we found her dead on the edge of the nest area (they like the petting
zone for their nest)  We're not sure what happened, she didn't have any bite
marks, she'd been eating, but she hadn't been quite as active as the others
and when we found her she was soaking wet.  Anyway, we decided not to buy
any more mice, as  it appeared that Jerry and Morty were both pregnant.  We
had to seperate them both from the others as they both started getting very
mean and would attack the smaller mice, but we have them in side by side
cages and visit them often (though now that i've been doing more reading on
things, i hoe to try introducing them together again a bit...)
Anyway, we're expecting at least 2 litters any time this next week, and I'm
still watching Tom, just in case she's expecting too, as for Peaches and
Squeak, we're fairly sure there weren't any males in their tanks at the pet
store, though we know there were in with Tom, Jerry and Morty..
So, assuming any of the babies survive *crosses fingers* we will hopefully
have some mice in time for Christmas if anyone in the Anchorage, Alaska area
is looking for mice.. :)
(Jerry's a brown/grey fancy mouse and Morty's an albino "feeder" though we
would much rather not feed them to the neighbor's snake.....)

Davina

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Post by Flykill » Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:56:40


friendliness in mice is not a good sign, especially when they're young.  they
usually do die off.

if the pregnant mice are hostile it often means they feel crowded.  make sure
they have enough space.  if necessary put them in their own cage.  I recommend
those large plastic storage boxes with the eigh*** inch tall side (leave the
lid off).  lots of room, lots of access, cheap, and good for other things when
your mice finally go to that big cheese warehouse in the sky.

pregnancy is hard work, and sometimes the mothers become starved for protein.
if they get too starved they'll eat their young.  to prevent this give them
protein every day - boiled egg (make sure it has cooled down), dry cat food,
dry dog food, whatever they'll eat.  most mice will eat dry cat food at any
time, and pregnant mice will often eat egg.

when your baby mice begin to eat solid food be ready to separate them before
they start breeding with each other.  it's hard to tell young males and females
apart, so if necessary get a pet store to help you tell them apart (buy
something from the store afterwards).  be ready with more cages for the males
and the females.

as the babies grow get them their own exercise wheel.  mice learning how to use
the wheel are hilarious fun.
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Post by Brenda G. Ken » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:01:02


flykiller? (uhm...I hope you really don't go around killing flies!)
thanks for all the good advice. I heard that if your young mice have two
dots close together under their tail..they are male...if further
apart...they are female.,

When one of my females get preggers I aim to keep a male for the male and
a female for the female and hopefully sell the rest off. I have no
interest in being inundated with mousies!!

Bren

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               "For a person's a person

                No matter how small"

                               -Dr. Suess

 
 
 

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Post by Davina Stuar » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:57:50




Quote:
> flykiller? (uhm...I hope you really don't go around killing flies!)
> thanks for all the good advice. I heard that if your young mice have two
> dots close together under their tail..they are male...if further
> apart...they are female.,

> When one of my females get preggers I aim to keep a male for the male and
> a female for the female and hopefully sell the rest off. I have no
> interest in being inundated with mousies!!

> Bren

> --

Thanks for all the advise.  We hadn't planned on ever having pregnant mice,
but found out too late after we'd brought them home that they were.. :)
Anyway, we did seperate botht he pregnant females and they each have their
own areas to live, play, nest, etc. and we're expecting 2 litters any day
now (one fancy, one white) and are prepared to seperate them whent hey get
to that point.
As for having someone at the pet store sex the mice for us... based on our
experiences when we picked these ones up.. we're actually better at it then
the employees that were "helping" us (but not a lot of option up here in
Alaska... *sigh*)
and we've been supplimenting their diet with all sorts of treats, high fat,
high protien.. trying all sorts of things to find stuff they really like.,
dog food, dog biscuits, nuts, oats, dried fruit, dried bread, peanubutter,
bits of meat, etc  hadn't thought of eggs, but we'll give that a try.  As
with all animals, some like one thing better then the others, and everyone
else likes somethign else, but gets em lots of variety...
will keep everyone updated about the little ones... :)

Davina

 
 
 

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Post by Lady Blackswor » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:59:11


Brenda-
Having had a successful litter of twelve, and two young "female" mice (that
weren't) brought home from the store, I recommend not trying the "dots"
method. We had two females & 10 males, and the only sure method we found was
watching the mice, and pulling out the ones that had balls. Some mice don't
show balls till about 4 weeks. We kept one male and the two girls, who have
simply stayed w/ Mom & Aunt Smoke (mom's cage mate). The girls didn't end up
pregnant, so it seems if you yank them as soon as balls show, they don't
have time to get in trouble with the ladies.
As far as protein, I can also suggest baby food (the kind that comes in a
little glass jar, pick a meat and veggie combo), in a little dish, maybe w/
some seeds mixed in while she's still nursing. Blitz seemed to like that,
and also accepted some bread soaked with milk. We also kept the food bowl
not just full, but running over, until we had gotten to the point where the
kids were fully furred and had eyes wide open. By that point, we had 12
little eating machines on our hands.
Only other real chunk of advice I can offer is to make sure momma has a
female cagemate if you can, since Smoke was a real help to Blitz, helping
during birthing, and apparently helping w/ nursing afterwards. Also helping
her keep the kiddies warm, and minding them when Blitz got up to go eat.
Oh, and get some of the 100% cotton bedding fluff stuff from the pet store,
so momma can make a nest, then don't mess with her nest till the little
tykes have fur. In fact, keep your hands out of the cage as much as possible
till they have defined eyelids and distinct ears (as opposed to "flaps" on
their heads.) After that, you can touch them gently, but only if she doesn't
seem touchy about it. And move very slow. If she starts getting "twitchy",
get out and keep out of her sight range for a bit (aprox.. 11/2 to 2 ft.
from the cage walls.).
Don't try picking any of them up until they are *** and moving around the
cage, and be careful to keep it short then. Watch it after they get their
eyes open, cause they will try jumping out of your hand without warning, so
keep a tail hold. Tap them lightly on the nose if they bite during this
period, like you would a cat's kitten. It effectively teaches them not to
chomp on you.
Good Luck,
Murri



Quote:
> flykiller? (uhm...I hope you really don't go around killing flies!)
> thanks for all the good advice. I heard that if your young mice have two
> dots close together under their tail..they are male...if further
> apart...they are female.,

> When one of my females get preggers I aim to keep a male for the male and
> a female for the female and hopefully sell the rest off. I have no
> interest in being inundated with mousies!!

> Bren

> --

>                "For a person's a person

>                 No matter how small"

>                                -Dr. Suess

 
 
 

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Post by Brenda G. Ken » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:58:44


Hey Murri....

does your male mouse have another male for a cage mate? they don't all
fight. I feel sorry for any mouse on its own as they are very social
creatures.

Bren

--

               "For a person's a person

                No matter how small"

                               -Dr. Suess

 
 
 

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Post by Davina Stuar » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:11:06


Neither pregnant female currently has a cage mate as they were both quite
*** with the others, hence their seperation.  My step son hasn't been
working as much on the socialization of the other three "single" gals in his
mouse clan (they had some squabbling, but things have settled down) I was
going to try re introducing one of the other gals in with either of the
mommas to be, but i can't get the three to play nice with me and come out of
their cage to give it a try.
(but both mommas are fine with me, and are taking food from my hand now, and
will occasionally even crawl into my hand, but I've been pushing their human
socialization because of the pregnancies.)

Anyone know if it'd be ok if i put both the expectant momma's together? or
would that be asking for trouble??

Thanks!

 
 
 

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Post by Lady Blackswor » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:40:40


No, Triskelion took a dislike to every other male I tried him w/ after
removal from his brothers. But then, I have three other bachelors in the
house. They just get more play time. I do have one who has a girl for a cage
mate - he's one of the mistaken sex cases, and possibly Siamese (his
markings haven't finished developing, but his nose is getting darker) and
she's a black-eye white, so I'm ok w/ the match-up. I'll have him sleeping
around, if he turns out truly Siamese, of course, but he'll get to stay till
she has a litter, provided Misty doesn't start getting ***y at Rish before
then. (short for I'rish'. He's the color of cappuccino froth.)
But don't feel too sorry for my guys - they get twice as many new toys &
treats, and plenty of play time, along w/ my one lone female. (she's sis to
the other mistaken sex case, and too big of a psycho-*** to be put in with
any of the other girls. Hell, some days she's too big of a *** to be by
herself. Star just hates everybody.)
Murri
Asylum Warden to:
One Bit, Two Bit, Blitz, Smoke, Ditz, Trina, Star, Misty, Dale, Boris,
Tavish, Triskelion & Rish.



Quote:
> Hey Murri....

> does your male mouse have another male for a cage mate? they don't all
> fight. I feel sorry for any mouse on its own as they are very social
> creatures.

> Bren

> --

>                "For a person's a person

>                 No matter how small"

>                                -Dr. Suess

 
 
 

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Post by Lady Blackswor » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:46:06


You could always try it.
You do know to only do introductions in a "cleaned" cage, one that doesn't
smell like either party, right? Cause they will defend what they see as
their territory. And I would be very cautious w/ the expecting mommas, and
stop if either of them get upset at all. But if you could get them to agree,
they might be willing to kinda "share" their litters, from what I've heard
from the gals at our local pet store. (not the big chain, but the locally
owned one where they actually care about the animals.)
Murri


Quote:

> Neither pregnant female currently has a cage mate as they were both quite
> *** with the others, hence their seperation.  My step son hasn't been
> working as much on the socialization of the other three "single" gals in
his
> mouse clan (they had some squabbling, but things have settled down) I was
> going to try re introducing one of the other gals in with either of the
> mommas to be, but i can't get the three to play nice with me and come out
of
> their cage to give it a try.
> (but both mommas are fine with me, and are taking food from my hand now,
and
> will occasionally even crawl into my hand, but I've been pushing their
human
> socialization because of the pregnancies.)

> Anyone know if it'd be ok if i put both the expectant momma's together? or
> would that be asking for trouble??

> Thanks!

 
 
 

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Post by Heather M. Fieldhous » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 00:25:46


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 0:11:06 -0500, Davina Stuart wrote

Quote:
> Anyone know if it'd be ok if i put both the expectant momma's together? or
> would that be asking for trouble??

They'll help take care of and nurse each other's babies.  Female mice,
whether they have babies of their own or not, are happy to take care of each
other's babies.  It's pretty sweet to watch.

Heather

 
 
 

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Post by Lady Blackswor » Sun, 14 Nov 2004 03:27:42


You mind my asking where you are located? I'm in North Carolina, and if you
are in the state, or in SC, I might be interested, if you get good colors.
Murri

Quote:

> > When one of my females get preggers I aim to keep a male for the male
and
> > a female for the female and hopefully sell the rest off. I have no
> > interest in being inundated with mousies!!

> > Bren

> > --

> >                "For a person's a person

> >                 No matter how small"

> >                                -Dr. Suess

 
 
 

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Post by Brenda G. Ken » Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:06:09


*blink*
Okaaay........
*cough*
Murri

LOL!

Bren

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               "For a person's a person

                No matter how small"

                               -Dr. Suess