OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

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OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

Post by Big Crotch on a Small Fis » Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:30:50



Quote:


>> In article


>>> The site:

>>> http://courseweb.yc.edu/csa144/mglasser/index.html

>> That is one ugly website... :(

> Well, I wasn't gonna go there... still won't  because of the
> subjectivity. That said, I'm not gonna walk on eggs shells for Snit or
> anyone else using DW so I'll ask you your opinion of something that
> first crossed my mind on this:

> Do you think it's possible that a person using DW, who doesn't code
> well manually,  is more likely to encounter this kind of issue and not
> be able to fix it (or, in Snit's case, believe it isn't fixable)?

> My two cents: I've seen this stuff on a number of occasions.

Is there any site gluey makes that is not ugly?  I think he uses premade
Dreamweaver templates.

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OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

Post by Steve Carrol » Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:36:58




Quote:


> >> In article


> >>> The site:

> >>>http://courseweb.yc.edu/csa144/mglasser/index.html

> >> That is one ugly website... :(

> > Well, I wasn't gonna go there... still won't ?because of the
> > subjectivity. That said, I'm not gonna walk on eggs shells for Snit or
> > anyone else using DW so I'll ask you your opinion of something that
> > first crossed my mind on this:

> > Do you think it's possible that a person using DW, who doesn't code
> > well manually, ?is more likely to encounter this kind of issue and not
> > be able to fix it (or, in Snit's case, believe it isn't fixable)?

> > My two cents: I've seen this stuff on a number of occasions.

> Is there any site gluey makes that is not ugly? ?I think he uses premade
> Dreamweaver templates.

I dunno, I don't have any idea what DW templates look like. I know
I've made my share of ugly sites... usually when the client wants
control of the look, the site ends up being less than ideal IMO. Not
that I'm any kind of a designer;) I was just commenting on Snit's
obviously mistaken belief that all centered sties with variable length
content (scrollable/non-scrollable) necessarily suffer from shifting.
 
 
 

OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

Post by Big Crotch on a Small Fis » Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:45:04


Quote:





>>>> In article


>>>>> The site:

>>>>> http://courseweb.yc.edu/csa144/mglasser/index.html

>>>> That is one ugly website... :(

>>> Well, I wasn't gonna go there... still won't because of the
>>> subjectivity. That said, I'm not gonna walk on eggs shells for Snit
>>> or anyone else using DW so I'll ask you your opinion of something
>>> that first crossed my mind on this:

>>> Do you think it's possible that a person using DW, who doesn't code
>>> well manually, is more likely to encounter this kind of issue and
>>> not be able to fix it (or, in Snit's case, believe it isn't
>>> fixable)?

>>> My two cents: I've seen this stuff on a number of occasions.

>> Is there any site gluey makes that is not ugly? I think he uses
>> premade Dreamweaver templates.

> I dunno, I don't have any idea what DW templates look like. I know
> I've made my share of ugly sites... usually when the client wants
> control of the look, the site ends up being less than ideal IMO. Not
> that I'm any kind of a designer;) I was just commenting on Snit's
> obviously mistaken belief that all centered sties with variable length
> content (scrollable/non-scrollable) necessarily suffer from shifting.

And you ripped Snit apart with your list of sites that do exactly what he
denied could be done.  Keep posting it and rub it in his glue sniffing face.

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OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

Post by Clogwo » Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:34:05




Quote:





>>>>> In article


>>>>>> The site:

>>>>>> http://courseweb.yc.edu/csa144/mglasser/index.html

>>>>> That is one ugly website... :(

>>>> Well, I wasn't gonna go there... still won't because of the
>>>> subjectivity. That said, I'm not gonna walk on eggs shells for Snit
>>>> or anyone else using DW so I'll ask you your opinion of something
>>>> that first crossed my mind on this:

>>>> Do you think it's possible that a person using DW, who doesn't code
>>>> well manually, is more likely to encounter this kind of issue and
>>>> not be able to fix it (or, in Snit's case, believe it isn't
>>>> fixable)?

>>>> My two cents: I've seen this stuff on a number of occasions.

>>> Is there any site gluey makes that is not ugly? I think he uses
>>> premade Dreamweaver templates.

>> I dunno, I don't have any idea what DW templates look like. I know
>> I've made my share of ugly sites... usually when the client wants
>> control of the look, the site ends up being less than ideal IMO. Not
>> that I'm any kind of a designer;) I was just commenting on Snit's
>> obviously mistaken belief that all centered sties with variable length
>> content (scrollable/non-scrollable) necessarily suffer from shifting.

> And you ripped Snit apart with your list of sites that do exactly what he
> denied could be done.  Keep posting it and rub it in his glue sniffing
> face.

So, when you two have finished sniffing each other's arses, come back with
another lame, ok?
 
 
 

OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

Post by Snit » Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:46:23



2:34 PM:

Quote:







>>>>>> In article


>>>>>>> The site:

>>>>>>> http://courseweb.yc.edu/csa144/mglasser/index.html

>>>>>> That is one ugly website... :(

>>>>> Well, I wasn't gonna go there... still won't because of the
>>>>> subjectivity. That said, I'm not gonna walk on eggs shells for Snit
>>>>> or anyone else using DW so I'll ask you your opinion of something
>>>>> that first crossed my mind on this:

>>>>> Do you think it's possible that a person using DW, who doesn't code
>>>>> well manually, is more likely to encounter this kind of issue and
>>>>> not be able to fix it (or, in Snit's case, believe it isn't
>>>>> fixable)?

>>>>> My two cents: I've seen this stuff on a number of occasions.

>>>> Is there any site gluey makes that is not ugly? I think he uses
>>>> premade Dreamweaver templates.

>>> I dunno, I don't have any idea what DW templates look like. I know
>>> I've made my share of ugly sites... usually when the client wants
>>> control of the look, the site ends up being less than ideal IMO. Not
>>> that I'm any kind of a designer;) I was just commenting on Snit's
>>> obviously mistaken belief that all centered sties with variable length
>>> content (scrollable/non-scrollable) necessarily suffer from shifting.

>> And you ripped Snit apart with your list of sites that do exactly what he
>> denied could be done.  Keep posting it and rub it in his glue sniffing
>> face.

> So, when you two have finished sniffing each other's arses, come back with
> another lame, ok?

The "two" of them are the same person... Steve Carroll and his sock.  And
Steve's sock lied for him: Steve never posted such a list.  In fact, I asked
Steve a simple question about centered sites about not having the scroll bar
make them "jump" from page to page.

I am the only one who has pointed to *any* such page: the Google home page.

Steve, as far as I have seen, has failed to find *any* such page.  And,
because he failed, he has been lying saying I denied such pages exist.  Yes:
he denies I believe in technique in the page I pointed to and noted it had
that technique.

He is an idiot.

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OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

Post by Steve Carrol » Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:17:08



Quote:

> 2:34 PM:








> >>>>>> In article


> >>>>>>> The site:

> >>>>>>>http://courseweb.yc.edu/csa144/mglasser/index.html

> >>>>>> That is one ugly website... :(

> >>>>> Well, I wasn't gonna go there... still won't because of the
> >>>>> subjectivity. That said, I'm not gonna walk on eggs shells for Snit
> >>>>> or anyone else using DW so I'll ask you your opinion of something
> >>>>> that first crossed my mind on this:

> >>>>> Do you think it's possible that a person using DW, who doesn't code
> >>>>> well manually, is more likely to encounter this kind of issue and
> >>>>> not be able to fix it (or, in Snit's case, believe it isn't
> >>>>> fixable)?

> >>>>> My two cents: I've seen this stuff on a number of occasions.

> >>>> Is there any site gluey makes that is not ugly? I think he uses
> >>>> premade Dreamweaver templates.

> >>> I dunno, I don't have any idea what DW templates look like. I know
> >>> I've made my share of ugly sites... usually when the client wants
> >>> control of the look, the site ends up being less than ideal IMO. Not
> >>> that I'm any kind of a designer;) I was just commenting on Snit's
> >>> obviously mistaken belief that all centered sties with variable length
> >>> content (scrollable/non-scrollable) necessarily suffer from shifting.

> >> And you ripped Snit apart with your list of sites that do exactly what he
> >> denied could be done. ?Keep posting it and rub it in his glue sniffing
> >> face.

> > So, when you two have finished sniffing each other's arses, come back with
> > another lame, ok?

> The "two" of them are the same person... Steve Carroll and his sock.

Snit... please stop lying about me. Thanks.

Quote:
>?And
> Steve's sock lied for him: Steve never posted such a list.

Never claimed I did.

Quote:
> In fact, I asked
> Steve a simple question about centered sites about not having the scroll bar
> make them "jump" from page to page.

Actually, what you said was:

"Can you find a website that is centered that does *not* do that,

Quote:
> assuming some pages scroll and some do not.  LOL!

Poor Steve... so amazingly lost."

So, you see... you not only ridiculed me for believing I could find
such sites that *didn't* exhibit the shift, you called me "amazingly
lost" over it.

In other words, there is no way you can pretend what you're trying to
pretend here... people just aren't as stupid as you need them to be.
You *clearly* thought *all* such sites suffer from the shift and that
I wouldn't be able to find one that didn't.

(snip Snit's red herrings that unsuccessfully seek to mask the reality
of his previously mistaken belief)

It's OK, Snit... you're learning... just like the rest of us. Nothing
wrong in admitting to it.

 
 
 

OT: Opinions from web developers sought (Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever)

Post by Big Crotch on a Small Fis » Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:30:44


Quote:



>> 1/10/11 2:34 PM:




>>>>> On Jan 10, 9:30 am, "Big Crotch on a Small Fish"



>>>>>>>> In article


>>>>>>>>> The site:

>>>>>>>>> http://courseweb.yc.edu/csa144/mglasser/index.html

>>>>>>>> That is one ugly website... :(

>>>>>>> Well, I wasn't gonna go there... still won't because of the
>>>>>>> subjectivity. That said, I'm not gonna walk on eggs shells for
>>>>>>> Snit or anyone else using DW so I'll ask you your opinion of
>>>>>>> something that first crossed my mind on this:

>>>>>>> Do you think it's possible that a person using DW, who doesn't
>>>>>>> code well manually, is more likely to encounter this kind of
>>>>>>> issue and not be able to fix it (or, in Snit's case, believe it
>>>>>>> isn't fixable)?

>>>>>>> My two cents: I've seen this stuff on a number of occasions.

>>>>>> Is there any site gluey makes that is not ugly? I think he uses
>>>>>> premade Dreamweaver templates.

>>>>> I dunno, I don't have any idea what DW templates look like. I know
>>>>> I've made my share of ugly sites... usually when the client wants
>>>>> control of the look, the site ends up being less than ideal IMO.
>>>>> Not that I'm any kind of a designer;) I was just commenting on
>>>>> Snit's obviously mistaken belief that all centered sties with
>>>>> variable length content (scrollable/non-scrollable) necessarily
>>>>> suffer from shifting.

>>>> And you ripped Snit apart with your list of sites that do exactly
>>>> what he denied could be done. Keep posting it and rub it in his
>>>> glue sniffing face.

>>> So, when you two have finished sniffing each other's arses, come
>>> back with another lame, ok?

>> The "two" of them are the same person... Steve Carroll and his sock.

> Snit... please stop lying about me. Thanks.

No, I am Snit.

Quote:
>> And
>> Steve's sock lied for him: Steve never posted such a list.

> Never claimed I did.

Snit did through me.

Quote:
>> In fact, I asked
>> Steve a simple question about centered sites about not having the
>> scroll bar make them "jump" from page to page.

> Actually, what you said was:

> "Can you find a website that is centered that does *not* do that,
>> assuming some pages scroll and some do not.  LOL!

> Poor Steve... so amazingly lost."

> So, you see... you not only ridiculed me for believing I could find
> such sites that *didn't* exhibit the shift, you called me "amazingly
> lost" over it.

Your lists of such sites ripped Snit apart.

Quote:
> In other words, there is no way you can pretend what you're trying to
> pretend here... people just aren't as stupid as you need them to be.
> You *clearly* thought *all* such sites suffer from the shift and that
> I wouldn't be able to find one that didn't.

Exactly.  Notice how he runs from your list of sites with the exact feature
he denied existed.

Quote:
> (snip Snit's red herrings that unsuccessfully seek to mask the reality
> of his previously mistaken belief)

> It's OK, Snit... you're learning... just like the rest of us. Nothing
> wrong in admitting to it.

LOL!

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