>> 1/10/11 2:43 PM:
>>>>> And just *whom* do you propose be the 'tasked organization', and
>>>>> just 'whom' does the 'tasking'?.
>>>> Well, in the US is there any organization that is already tasked
>>>> with promoting the general welfare? Hmmm...
>>> Uh, it was a rhetorical question.
>> Yes, mine was. I assume most people know the organization that is
>> tasked with promoting the general welfare.
>> Many will not say it though. :)
>>>>> Furthermore, show me where exactly in the Constitution>anyone<
>>>>> has a "right" to healthcare, _period_? And if healthcare is
>>>>> a>right<, perhaps we should amend the Constitution to include
>>>>> "guaranteed happiness" a>right< while we're pipe-dreaming....
>>>> How do you guarantee happiness? You seem a bit lost.
>>> It was sarcasm, guy... sarcasm.
>> Lovely. Now get back to the topic at hand.
>>>>> Look, if healthcare is to be a _right_, the way to go about it is
>>>>> already provided by means of the Constitutional _amendment_
>>>>> process, not some power grabbing maneuvers of elitist power
>>>>> monger progressives who try everything in the book to push
>>>>> through their agenda like Pelosi's famous 'go around, under,
>>>>> pole-vault over' tactics which should in itself mandate a death
>>>>> sentence for her - preferably a death by injection of a Botox
>>>>> overdose in her case.
>>>> We already largely have free health care... hospitals cannot turn
>>>> patients in great need away. And who do you think pays for that?
>>>> If you need to do some research I understand. :)
>>> No reasearch needed. Taxpayers do
>> Right. So why not streamline the system and make it more fair and
>>> - but at least there ARE ERs and doctors to staff them.
>> Well, sometimes. There are very ling lines at ERs all too often...
>> and huge doctor shortages.
>>> Under Obamacare, even these will be severely diminished in that
>>> doctors will leave the practice due to overburdening an already
>>> overburdened system.
>>> For the past 10 years in this state, we've already seen a mass
>>> exodus of MDs just because of the exponential liability insurance
>>> rate hikes for MDs.
>> Which is not tied to any proposed changes.
>>> You think Obamacare *mandating* heavier caseloads without first
>>> addressing tort reform, insurance company practices, and big pharma
>>> is really going to solve a stinkin blessed thing? Yeah, right...
>> The insurance companies are already pushing insane case loads. I do
>> not support that.
>> The main points of the new health care plan:
>> * Let kids stick with parents insurance until they are 26.
>> * Provide free preventative care.
>> * Ban insurance from rescinding coverage.
>> * Easier appeals on insurance decisions.
>> * Remove lifetime limits on insurance.
>> * Modify annual limits on insurance.
>> * Remove pre-existing condition clauses.
>> * Make it easier / cheaper for small businesses to provide insurance.
>> * Resolve the Medicare "donut hole"
>> * Make insurance companies reveal how much is spent on overhead.
>> * Work to reduce fraud and waste
>> * Funding for new therapies, etc.
>> Overall these are pretty good things.
> Too bad the gov't can't yet mandate that someone must operate an
> insurance business, huh?
Snit thinks they can.