Habitrail vs. S.A.M.

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Habitrail vs. S.A.M.

Post by <jacg.. » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 10:40:46



I've decided to get a new cage for my hammy and am trying to weigh the
benefits of each.  Habitrail looks a bit sturdieer then the S.A.M stuff and
I do not much like the wire bottom of S.A.M., but S.A.M is definitely bigger
as far as a single unit cage goes.  Does anyone have opinions?  Also, in
those kind of cages, where does one stick the water bottle?  I've seen one
that goes in from the top, but then she loses all her climbing tubes in
exchange....

Thanks so much!

Jackie.

 
 
 

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Post by Lawrence & Bobbi » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:32:17


Of the two, I much prefer Habitrails...eaiser to clean.  With the Safari or
Space unit, the water bottle is additional and it attaches to the outside,
just like on a regular wire cage.
Bobbie

Quote:
> I've decided to get a new cage for my hammy and am trying to weigh the
> benefits of each.  Habitrail looks a bit sturdieer then the S.A.M stuff
and
> I do not much like the wire bottom of S.A.M., but S.A.M is definitely
bigger
> as far as a single unit cage goes.  Does anyone have opinions?  Also, in
> those kind of cages, where does one stick the water bottle?  I've seen one
> that goes in from the top, but then she loses all her climbing tubes in
> exchange....

> Thanks so much!

> Jackie.

 
 
 

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Post by TheHamsterL » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:44:24


hi jackie,, have you considered an aquarium for your hamsters? you can still
use the tubes and whatnot if you like that sort of thing. they make converter
lids that enable you to securely fit the tubes to an aquarium. the advantage
being increased floorspace and a clear viewing window into your hamster's life!

also, you can have a nice roomy aquarium and still connect it via tubes to the
smaller sam or habitrail housing units! i have dwarfs so the sam stuff isn't
for me. i do so wish they made some dwarf hammy/mice housing units with tiny
bars, for they look like they'd be ideal for travelling (like that safari
unit)!

as far as waterbottles go, aren't there special areas reserved just for that
purpose? and i think that just any tube opening will work with a special
adapter for the waterbottle.

good luck in your hammy's real estate venture!

jimmy

http://members.aol.com/thehamsterlog/

<< I've decided to get a new cage for my hammy and am trying to weigh the
benefits of each.  Habitrail looks a bit sturdieer then the S.A.M stuff and
I do not much like the wire bottom of S.A.M., but S.A.M is definitely bigger
as far as a single unit cage goes.  Does anyone have opinions?  Also, in
those kind of cages, where does one stick the water bottle?  I've seen one
that goes in from the top, but then she loses all her climbing tubes in
exchange....

Thanks so much!

Jackie.

 >>

 
 
 

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Post by Chlo » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 22:12:38




Quote:
> hi jackie,, have you considered an aquarium for your hamsters? you can still
> use the tubes and whatnot if you like that sort of thing. they make converter
> lids that enable you to securely fit the tubes to an aquarium. the advantage
> being increased floorspace and a clear viewing window into your hamster's
> life!

> also, you can have a nice roomy aquarium and still connect it via tubes to the
> smaller sam or habitrail housing units! i have dwarfs so the sam stuff isn't
> for me. i do so wish they made some dwarf hammy/mice housing units with tiny
> bars, for they look like they'd be ideal for travelling (like that safari
> unit)!

> as far as waterbottles go, aren't there special areas reserved just for that
> purpose? and i think that just any tube opening will work with a special
> adapter for the waterbottle.

> good luck in your hammy's real estate venture!

the safari cage is so cool guinness has one i juts love the idea of a safari
hammy adventure.. oh gotta get him more addons

- Show quoted text -

 
 
 

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Post by Nicol » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 22:25:53


Quote:

> I've decided to get a new cage for my hammy and am trying to weigh the
> benefits of each.  Habitrail looks a bit sturdieer then the S.A.M stuff
and
> I do not much like the wire bottom of S.A.M., but S.A.M is definitely
bigger
> as far as a single unit cage goes.  Does anyone have opinions?  Also, in
> those kind of cages, where does one stick the water bottle?  I've seen one
> that goes in from the top, but then she loses all her climbing tubes in
> exchange....

In all honesty, I'd say the cage I'm most happy with is a standard, wire
cage. They are sturdy and difficult for the hamster to escape from (I hear
that they have a tendency to climb out of the top of aquarium enclosures,
and I have heard from one poster that the Habitrail Safari was very
escape-prone for her hamster).  I bought one from Pets Mart that I was very
happy with:

Deluxe 16" Hamster Starter Kit from All Living Things
http://www.petsmart.com/small%5Fanimal/shopping/habitats%5F%5F%5Fhome...
cts/product%5F6484.shtml

for some reason you can't buy the cage w/o the "starters" but no matter.
It's the largest cage I could find that would accommodate a small animal
(ie, the other cages' bars were far enough apart that Hammy could slip
thru).

This cage has another advantage in that it's very easy to clean, simply
remove the top and remove the litter.  I would also put a plastic grocery
bag on the bottom of the cage, split, to make cleaning even easier.

Hope this helps - Nicole

 
 
 

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Post by Nicol » Sat, 06 Oct 2001 02:42:42



Quote:
> In all honesty, I'd say the cage I'm most happy with is a standard, wire
> cage. They are sturdy and difficult for the hamster to escape from (I hear
> that they have a tendency to climb out of the top of aquarium enclosures,
> and I have heard from one poster that the Habitrail Safari was very
> escape-prone for her hamster).  I bought one from Pets Mart that I was
very
> happy with:

> Deluxe 16" Hamster Starter Kit from All Living Things

http://www.petsmart.com/small%5Fanimal/shopping/habitats%5F%5F%5Fhome...

Quote:
> cts/product%5F6484.shtml

I forgot to mention that this cage features a ladder and balcony.  Hammy
LOVED his balcony....
- N.
 
 
 

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Post by SkyeSurf » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 05:38:18


Personally, I LOVE the space station cage my dwarf is in, though it seems like
it would be too cramped for a full size hamster.

Its especially fun if you add a rocket for hammy to hide in, and some fast food
chews to complete the ensemble.

-SkyeSurfer

 
 
 

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Post by haley100 » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 05:51:53


S.A.M. is an okay cage if you take the wire out of the bottom.  The
cage will hold together without it.  I happen to have the SAM "Country
Club" because that's what my hand-me-down hamster came in.  He has
since died, but the new occupant seems very taken with it.  It's also
handy in terms of the water bottle, which has its own space in the top
of the cage to go through, and is very drip-resistant.

Habitrails look good, too.  I also have seen the "Crittertrail" brand,
and that looks okay, as well.  All three brands are compatible as far
as tubes/connectors, and all three make wire versions of cages where
you can connect tubes.  And all three brands also have "bubble" tubes,
which are better-suited for dwarves.  You could conceivably even make
an enclosure with favored components of all three brands.  Habitrail
also has a cute new line of "space stations," with a glittery blue
space theme (and glow-in-the-dark wheel) instead of the safari colors,
and SAM has a cute new purple "computer" cage and accessories, though
it looks more suited for dwarves than Syrians.

Quote:



> > In all honesty, I'd say the cage I'm most happy with is a standard, wire
> > cage. They are sturdy and difficult for the hamster to escape from (I hear
> > that they have a tendency to climb out of the top of aquarium enclosures,
> > and I have heard from one poster that the Habitrail Safari was very
> > escape-prone for her hamster).  I bought one from Pets Mart that I was
>  very
> > happy with:

> > Deluxe 16" Hamster Starter Kit from All Living Things

>  http://www.petsmart.com/small%5Fanimal/shopping/habitats%5F%5F%5Fhome...
> > cts/product%5F6484.shtml

> I forgot to mention that this cage features a ladder and balcony.  Hammy
> LOVED his balcony....
> - N.

 
 
 

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Post by <jacg.. » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 13:00:55


Actually, I currently have her in a 20 gallon aquarium, but she's constantly
trying to climb - I thought if I bought her one of those "extendable"
houses, I could make it a lot more fun for her by giving her a lot more
places to go and climb and run through.  I've now looked at a lot of
different options, and they seem so tiny in length compared to the aquarium.
I'm going to try to cut into the screen and add some attachments up there -
but I worry that doing that will weaken the screen and allow her to "break
out".  We'll see what happens....I'm so glad everyone responded with great
advice and opinions....


Quote:
> hi jackie,, have you considered an aquarium for your hamsters? you can
still
> use the tubes and whatnot if you like that sort of thing. they make
converter
> lids that enable you to securely fit the tubes to an aquarium. the
advantage
> being increased floorspace and a clear viewing window into your hamster's
life!

> also, you can have a nice roomy aquarium and still connect it via tubes to
the
> smaller sam or habitrail housing units! i have dwarfs so the sam stuff
isn't
> for me. i do so wish they made some dwarf hammy/mice housing units with
tiny
> bars, for they look like they'd be ideal for travelling (like that safari
> unit)!

> as far as waterbottles go, aren't there special areas reserved just for
that
> purpose? and i think that just any tube opening will work with a special
> adapter for the waterbottle.

> good luck in your hammy's real estate venture!

> jimmy

> http://members.aol.com/thehamsterlog/

> << I've decided to get a new cage for my hammy and am trying to weigh the
> benefits of each.  Habitrail looks a bit sturdieer then the S.A.M stuff
and
> I do not much like the wire bottom of S.A.M., but S.A.M is definitely
bigger
> as far as a single unit cage goes.  Does anyone have opinions?  Also, in
> those kind of cages, where does one stick the water bottle?  I've seen one
> that goes in from the top, but then she loses all her climbing tubes in
> exchange....

> Thanks so much!

> Jackie.

 
 
 

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Post by Samm » Mon, 08 Oct 2001 08:05:16


Quote:

>Actually, I currently have her in a 20 gallon aquarium, but she's constantly
>trying to climb - I thought if I bought her one of those "extendable"
>houses, I could make it a lot more fun for her by giving her a lot more
>places to go and climb and run through.  I've now looked at a lot of
>different options, and they seem so tiny in length compared to the aquarium.
>I'm going to try to cut into the screen and add some attachments up there -
>but I worry that doing that will weaken the screen and allow her to "break
>out".  We'll see what happens....I'm so glad everyone responded with great
>advice and opinions....

My solution was to get a nice big 12"x24" wire cage from Petsmart:

http://www.petsmart.com/small%5Fanimal/shopping/habitats%5F%5F%5Fhome...

Then I cut a couple bars in a back corner, just enough to allow a
standard habitrail tube to fit through.  Then I put a habitrail loft
standing on end with the top cover off and the tube connector sticking
out of the hole I made.  Any similar piece that looks like this will
do:

http://www.pet-expo.com/habitrail/safariloftLg.jpg

Then run a 14" tube to a habitrail/SAM cage on top of the wire cage.
The result is a lot of space.  I'm on my third syrian with this setup,
and they've all ended up using the habitrail for sleep/food/bathroom,
and use the wire cage for fun and excercise.

They've liked it so much that when I accidentally leave the cage open,
they always come back home after they're finished exploring the house.
I experimented once with adding more space by putting those two cages
on top of a long 20 gallon aquarium, but apparently the original cages
were enough room and it was almost never visited.

Someday I'll get some decent pictures of it I can post.

Sam