Habitrail vs SAM ?

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Habitrail vs SAM ?

Post by Hyp.. » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:31:43



Hello,

When I was a kid [20 years ago] I had several Dwarf Hamsters in a
Habitrail set-up.  Even back then I was told not to buy the wire cages
with wire bottoms because of chewing, leg & foot injuries.

For many years I was very happy with the Habitrail and had 3 sets of
spoiled, happy hammys that died of old age.

Now, I want to get Hammys again for my kids.  
I checked out a few LPS and have seen the newly designed Habitrail and
SAM habitats.

The SAMs look a lot nicer and have better accessories, IMHO, but I
noticed that they have wire bottoms.  Is there a way to remove the wire
bottoms and still attached the plastic bottom of the habitat?  The
salesperson was of no help, as usual. They did not have any displayed on
the shelf and they did not want to open the box so I could have a look.

The new Habitrails have a much better bottom then their old models and I
may have to go with their system over the SAM.  Does anyone know of a
way to add additional tube holes to the habitats?

Also, does Habitrail and SAM have Websites? I can't seem to find them in
my searches.  BTW, I am aware that Habitrail and SAM habitats and
accessories are somewhat compatible.

Thanks in advance for any help and you can E-mail me if you do not wish
to post to the NG.

 
 
 

Habitrail vs SAM ?

Post by Nicol » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:00:19



Quote:
> Now, I want to get Hammys again for my kids.
> I checked out a few LPS and have seen the newly designed Habitrail and
> SAM habitats.

> The SAMs look a lot nicer and have better accessories, IMHO, but I
> noticed that they have wire bottoms.  Is there a way to remove the wire
> bottoms and still attached the plastic bottom of the habitat?  The
> salesperson was of no help, as usual. They did not have any displayed on
> the shelf and they did not want to open the box so I could have a look.

I've heard that you can.  I agree with you, SAMs look nicer but I'm all for
wire cages.  I've written about this previously, here, I'll re-copy it
below:
Well, regarding cages... here's what I've written in previous messages.
Regarding Habitrails:

Quote:
>What kind of experiences do you people have with the habitrail safari? It

looks such a neat cage to me. Problems with >gnawing on dooropenings or
joints? Too small?

Nothing but bad ones.  The only good thing about them was the wheel - and
you can just buy a wodent wheel. The habitrail safari was flimsy, too small,
difficult to clean, - and the water bottle was just next to junk.  I don't
recommend them.

(but that's just my experience!)

Regarding Habitrail Safari Wheels:
My safari wheel doesn't have a suction cup but rather a slot to stick
through the bars.

Well, I should say, HAD.  One early morning I heard this "CRASH" and hammy's
Safari wheel had fallen off its spoke.  Poor little thing was startled!  So
I threw it (safari wheel) out and bought him a Wodent Wheel.  I haven't had
any problems with him using it as a second home or bathroom...

Regarding Safari Water Bottles:
I know what you mean.  At first I had a safari water bottle too - thankfully
I noticed my hamster chewing on the bottle in frustration.  The darn thing
didn't work at ALL.  I have an Oasis water bottle now, and when I use the
hole on the top to position the bottle into a more-vertical position than is
allowed just using the standard holder.

A lesson for us all!

Regarding SAM's:
I definitely do NOT recommend SAM's due to the wire bottom.  I look at it
this way... would you like to stand on wire bars all day long?  Of course
not!

Hey, I started with a habit-trail and ended up getting a regular cage which
I believe is much better for my hammy.  It's just the price of having a
healthy, happy pet.  He can't take care of himself, so I must do it for him.
I'm happy to do so.

OK, so after all that -- what do I recommend?  A good sturdy wire cage.
I've never tried an aquarium as 1) I believe they're difficult to clean 2)
I've heard around that the hamsters frequently climb out of the top 3) in
case there's a fire in the apartment building (which happened once) I can
simply pick up the cage & run out.  No external tubes / et cetera to impair
the rescue of us both!

I got mine at PetsMart and I'm very happy with it.  the latch is good &
sturdy, so the hamster shouldn't escape (as someone wrote in earlier, saying
that her hamster escaped from the Habitrail safari all the time)  You can
see it on line at:
http://www.petsmart.com/products/product_6484.shtml

Or do a search for Deluxe 16" hamster starter kit from all living things
It also has a little balcony; which hammy loves!  His Wodent Wheel Jr. fits
right in the cage perfectly.

BTW you can find wodent wheels at:
http://www.transoniq.com/

(whew!) hope this helps - Nicole

--
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Nicole
"Don't hate the media; BECOME THE MEDIA." - Jello Biafra
http://www.indymedia.org/

 
 
 

Habitrail vs SAM ?

Post by Lily » Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:47:21


Hi!

I don't know about SAM, but here's Habitrail's website: http://www.hagen.com/canada/english/small/habitrail.cfm
Strangely, though, it doesn't mention the Safari cage.

Lily

Quote:

> Also, does Habitrail and SAM have Websites? I can't seem to find them in

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Habitrail vs SAM ?

Post by Hyp.. » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 06:04:43


Hello,

Thanks to everyone who responded to me via E-mail and in this Newsgroup.
Here are the answers to several of my questions for others who might
need the same information.

Habitrail
~~~~~~~~~~
Hagen Corporation
800-724-2436
www.hagen.com

S.A.M. [Small Animal Modules]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Penn Plax Corporation
877-Pet-Penn
www.penn-plax.com

The SAM Habitats can be used with or without the wire bottoms.  Simply
pop them out and reattach the plastic bottom to the main unit.

Several 'Professional' people [including a Breeder, Vet Assistant, Lab
Tech and an Animal Rights Activist] responded about wire cages.  Their
reasonings were quite diverse but all agreed that Habitats, like
Habitrail and SAM, were more beneficial then wire cages. These included
but were not limited to: chewing, leg & foot injuries.

Only one of my question went unanswered:

Does anyone know of a way to add additional tube holes to the habitats?

Specifically, I want to add tube holes to the bottom of the Habitat.
Could these be drilled? Are these tube holes some standard or metric
size?

Thanks in advance for any help. You can E-mail me if you do not wish to
post to the NG.

 
 
 

Habitrail vs SAM ?

Post by D » Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:45:38


At PetsMart, check out the Super Pet Critter Trail cage.  I have one of them,
and got it at a reasonable price (less then $20).  The accesories are
compatible with Habitrail and SAM, and the cage has a LOT of places for tube
hook ups.