Reminder - Midlands Rat Club Inaugural Show, 30/06/01 (UK only)

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Reminder - Midlands Rat Club Inaugural Show, 30/06/01 (UK only)

Post by Jackie Skidmor » Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:06:21



[Apologies to anyone who gets this msg more than once]

Just a little reminder.

The Midlands Rat Club is holding it's Inaugural Show on Saturday 30th June
at Swanwick Hall School, Swanwick, Derbyshire  DE55 1AN in the Assembly
Hall.  Doors open at 10:00 and judging starts at 12:00 noon.

Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.
The entry deadline has been extended to 18:00 Friday 29 June 2001.

Sorry no reptiles or ferrets.

For more information and  / or to enter please contact Jackie, Show

 
 
 

Reminder - Midlands Rat Club Inaugural Show, 30/06/01 (UK only)

Post by D. Stuss » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 01:51:42


Posts like this makes me wonder how many people THINK that rabbits are
rodents....
Quote:

> [Apologies to anyone who gets this msg more than once]

> Just a little reminder.

> The Midlands Rat Club is holding it's Inaugural Show on Saturday 30th June
> at Swanwick Hall School, Swanwick, Derbyshire  DE55 1AN in the Assembly
> Hall.  Doors open at 10:00 and judging starts at 12:00 noon.

> Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
> hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.
> The entry deadline has been extended to 18:00 Friday 29 June 2001.

> Sorry no reptiles or ferrets.

> For more information and  / or to enter please contact Jackie, Show


 
 
 

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Post by christin » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 02:39:51


I beleive she does say "small furries" class, and no mention of the word rodent
is made.  It appears to be merely sponsored by the rat club.  It is truly
unfortunate that the words "rat" or "rodent" still carry a negative connotation
for most.

-christine, who is extremely sensitive today because her pet rat Nicodemus is
on his deathbed.  ;>(

Quote:

> Posts like this makes me wonder how many people THINK that rabbits are
> rodents....


> > [Apologies to anyone who gets this msg more than once]

> > Just a little reminder.

> > The Midlands Rat Club is holding it's Inaugural Show on Saturday 30th June
> > at Swanwick Hall School, Swanwick, Derbyshire  DE55 1AN in the Assembly
> > Hall.  Doors open at 10:00 and judging starts at 12:00 noon.

> > Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
> > hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.
> > The entry deadline has been extended to 18:00 Friday 29 June 2001.

> > Sorry no reptiles or ferrets.

> > For more information and  / or to enter please contact Jackie, Show


 
 
 

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Post by D. Stuss » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 02:56:31


Yes, but except for rabbits, the list starts out with several rodents.....
Simply being sponsored by a rat club wasn't the only clue.  Most of my [human]
friends and acquaintances were also under the impression that rabbits were
rodents too (even though this misclassification was corrected in 1912).
Quote:

> I beleive she does say "small furries" class, and no mention of the word rodent
> is made.  It appears to be merely sponsored by the rat club.  It is truly
> unfortunate that the words "rat" or "rodent" still carry a negative connotation
> for most.

> -christine, who is extremely sensitive today because her pet rat Nicodemus is
> on his deathbed.  ;>(


> > Posts like this makes me wonder how many people THINK that rabbits are
> > rodents....


> > > [Apologies to anyone who gets this msg more than once]

> > > Just a little reminder.

> > > The Midlands Rat Club is holding it's Inaugural Show on Saturday 30th June
> > > at Swanwick Hall School, Swanwick, Derbyshire  DE55 1AN in the Assembly
> > > Hall.  Doors open at 10:00 and judging starts at 12:00 noon.

> > > Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
> > > hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.
> > > The entry deadline has been extended to 18:00 Friday 29 June 2001.

> > > Sorry no reptiles or ferrets.

> > > For more information and  / or to enter please contact Jackie, Show


 
 
 

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Post by wend » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 03:18:20


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Quote:

> Yes, but except for rabbits, the list starts out with several rodents.....
> Simply being sponsored by a rat club wasn't the only clue.  Most of my
[human]
> friends and acquaintances were also under the impression that rabbits were
> rodents too (even though this misclassification was corrected in 1912).

****
It states:

Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.

As Christine pointed out there is no mention of the 'word' rodent.  It does
not state that a rabbit is a rodent, it mentions small furries, shows a few
examples of small furries then ending with etc.  Showing at a rat club...
???

wendy

 
 
 

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Post by D. Stuss » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 15:44:31


Quote:


> > Yes, but except for rabbits, the list starts out with several rodents.....
> > Simply being sponsored by a rat club wasn't the only clue.  Most of my
> [human]
> > friends and acquaintances were also under the impression that rabbits were
> > rodents too (even though this misclassification was corrected in 1912).

> ****
> It states:

> Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
> hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.

> As Christine pointed out there is no mention of the 'word' rodent.  It does
> not state that a rabbit is a rodent, it mentions small furries, shows a few
> examples of small furries then ending with etc.  Showing at a rat club...
> ???

NO, but rats, cavies (guinea pigs), hampsters, mice, and gerbils ARE rodents.  I
don't precisely know about chihchillas and I haven't heard of the other two (by
those terms) before.  It's basically a list of rodents, and by including
rabbits, they certainly imply inclusion as a rodent.
 
 
 

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Post by DarkMind.. » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 16:11:33


I guess it's a matter of opinion.  What difference does it really make
anyways?
 
 
 

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Post by Laura Newberr » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 22:21:12


Quote:
>>and by including rabbits, they certainly imply inclusion as a >>rodent.

No they dont. They imply that rabbit is a small ***.

Dur.

 
 
 

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Post by Ray » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 22:24:09


I would like to take this opertunity to thank Jackie for organising the
show, it was excellent,  we both had a great day, and bought a little dumbo
rat the first of many.

For those of you who did not attend ..............you missed a really good
day.

A rabbit is a Lagomorph, which i believe, (not having my copy of Walkers at
hand) comes under the family Lagomorphidea, which i think still comes under
the Genus Rodenta.

Which shows they are related to rodents but different.

Quote:



>> > Yes, but except for rabbits, the list starts out with several
rodents.....
>> > Simply being sponsored by a rat club wasn't the only clue.  Most of my
>> [human]
>> > friends and acquaintances were also under the impression that rabbits
were
>> > rodents too (even though this misclassification was corrected in 1912).

>> ****
>> It states:

>> Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
>> hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.

>> As Christine pointed out there is no mention of the 'word' rodent.  It
does
>> not state that a rabbit is a rodent, it mentions small furries, shows a
few
>> examples of small furries then ending with etc.  Showing at a rat club...
>> ???

>NO, but rats, cavies (guinea pigs), hampsters, mice, and gerbils ARE
rodents.  I
>don't precisely know about chihchillas and I haven't heard of the other two
(by
>those terms) before.  It's basically a list of rodents, and by including
>rabbits, they certainly imply inclusion as a rodent.

 
 
 

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Post by Laur » Thu, 05 Jul 2001 02:02:24


Quote:

> I would like to take this opertunity to thank Jackie for organising the
> show, it was excellent,  we both had a great day, and bought a little dumbo
> rat the first of many.

> For those of you who did not attend ..............you missed a really good
> day.

> A rabbit is a Lagomorph, which i believe, (not having my copy of Walkers at
> hand) comes under the family Lagomorphidea, which i think still comes under
> the Genus Rodenta.

Family is higher than genus, so there is no way family Lagomorphidea comes
under *any* genus.

Taxonomically speaking, rodents and lagomorphs are both orders, and are
next to each other, not above or below the other.

So, rabbits are:               And rats are:

Kingdom: Animalia              Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum:  Cordata               Phylum:  Cordata
Class:   Mammalia              Class:   Mammalia
Order:   Lagomorphia           Order:   Rodentia
(two families, 63 species)     (29 Families, 1793 species)

Rabbits really *aren't* rodents. They are no more rodents than Primates
are rodents.

laura

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Post by DarkMind.. » Sun, 01 Jul 2001 16:11:33


I guess it's a matter of opinion.  What difference does it really make
anyways?

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Post by D. Stuss » Thu, 05 Jul 2001 03:16:06


Quote:

> I would like to take this opertunity to thank Jackie for organising the
> show, it was excellent,  we both had a great day, and bought a little dumbo
> rat the first of many.

> For those of you who did not attend ..............you missed a really good
> day.

> A rabbit is a Lagomorph, which i believe, (not having my copy of Walkers at
> hand) comes under the family Lagomorphidea, which i think still comes under
> the Genus Rodenta.

> Which shows they are related to rodents but different.

WRONG.
        Kingdom:        Animalia
        Phylum:         Chordata
        Class:          Mammilia
        Sub-class:      Theria
        Order:          Lagomorpha      (rabbits, hares, and pikas)    
        Family:         Leporidae       (all rabbits)

The next step is Genus, which may vary according to continent.
        European Rabbit:        Oryctolagus     ("domestics")
        North American Rabbit:  Sylvilagus      ("cottontails")

"Rodentia" is an order other than rabbits.

Furthermore, *** rabbits of the genus Oryctolagus are several times larger
than the other *** animals (which ARE rodents) mentioned.  Therefore, I don't
see how they can be classed as "small furries" along with the others that were
cited.

There might not be a mention of the word "rodent", but RAT is clearly prevalent
in the sponsoring organization's name.

Quote:



> >> > Yes, but except for rabbits, the list starts out with several rodents.....
> >> > Simply being sponsored by a rat club wasn't the only clue.  Most of my [human]
> >> > friends and acquaintances were also under the impression that rabbits were
> >> > rodents too (even though this misclassification was corrected in 1912).

> >> ****
> >> It states:

> >> Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
> >> hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.

> >> As Christine pointed out there is no mention of the 'word' rodent.  It
> does
> >> not state that a rabbit is a rodent, it mentions small furries, shows a
> few
> >> examples of small furries then ending with etc.  Showing at a rat club...
> >> ???

> >NO, but rats, cavies (guinea pigs), hampsters, mice, and gerbils ARE
> rodents.  I
> >don't precisely know about chihchillas and I haven't heard of the other two
> (by
> >those terms) before.  It's basically a list of rodents, and by including
> >rabbits, they certainly imply inclusion as a rodent.

 
 
 

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Post by christin » Thu, 05 Jul 2001 04:17:07


Well, Nicodemus sure thought the bunny was another rodent.
Nicodemus:  "hump, hump"
Kohl: "My word!  I am NOT a rodent! Will you please get off my back?"
Nicodemus: "big ***, c'mere, hump. hump"

I pray all the rabbits on the other side of the bridge have a good sense of humour.

-christine

Quote:


> > I would like to take this opertunity to thank Jackie for organising the
> > show, it was excellent,  we both had a great day, and bought a little dumbo
> > rat the first of many.

> > For those of you who did not attend ..............you missed a really good
> > day.

> > A rabbit is a Lagomorph, which i believe, (not having my copy of Walkers at
> > hand) comes under the family Lagomorphidea, which i think still comes under
> > the Genus Rodenta.

> > Which shows they are related to rodents but different.

> WRONG.
>         Kingdom:        Animalia
>         Phylum:         Chordata
>         Class:          Mammilia
>         Sub-class:      Theria
>         Order:          Lagomorpha      (rabbits, hares, and pikas)
>         Family:         Leporidae       (all rabbits)

> The next step is Genus, which may vary according to continent.
>         European Rabbit:        Oryctolagus     ("domestics")
>         North American Rabbit:  Sylvilagus      ("cottontails")

> "Rodentia" is an order other than rabbits.

> Furthermore, *** rabbits of the genus Oryctolagus are several times larger
> than the other *** animals (which ARE rodents) mentioned.  Therefore, I don't
> see how they can be classed as "small furries" along with the others that were
> cited.

> There might not be a mention of the word "rodent", but RAT is clearly prevalent
> in the sponsoring organization's name.




> > >> > Yes, but except for rabbits, the list starts out with several rodents.....
> > >> > Simply being sponsored by a rat club wasn't the only clue.  Most of my [human]
> > >> > friends and acquaintances were also under the impression that rabbits were
> > >> > rodents too (even though this misclassification was corrected in 1912).

> > >> ****
> > >> It states:

> > >> Entries are still sought for the Small Furries class - rabbits, cavies,
> > >> hamsters, mice, gerbils, jirds, degus, chinchillas etc.

> > >> As Christine pointed out there is no mention of the 'word' rodent.  It
> > does
> > >> not state that a rabbit is a rodent, it mentions small furries, shows a
> > few
> > >> examples of small furries then ending with etc.  Showing at a rat club...
> > >> ???

> > >NO, but rats, cavies (guinea pigs), hampsters, mice, and gerbils ARE
> > rodents.  I
> > >don't precisely know about chihchillas and I haven't heard of the other two
> > (by
> > >those terms) before.  It's basically a list of rodents, and by including
> > >rabbits, they certainly imply inclusion as a rodent.