help ... nipping seems to be contagious

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help ... nipping seems to be contagious

Post by ryc.. » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Ah yes, brings back fond memories of when we called Tassy
 "The Devil Child". Tassy bit from the second I saw her. I
 picked her because when I put my arm in the cage full of
 ferrets, she clamped on and bit me. Personality!!

 It was *extremely* difficult to train her. She went after
 toes, ankles, arms, she nailed my nose at least twice, has
 bitten Phil's cheek, etc, etc, etc.

 The biting of the arm is normal, we call it***-lick-chew-chew.
 We let her do it once, positive it is a sign of affection, and
 then scruff her, tell her "once is enough" and put her down.

 She resisted socks, shoes, bitter apple, threats of being
 turned into a muff, everything. There were times I would
 have gladly offered her to the nearest cat. And she gets
 all the others riled up, too, so they bite when they're
 e***d.

 Sometimes it does take an extremely long time to nip train
 them, and even then it doesn't always work. Have you tried
 spraying her with water? Highly affective on mine, whether it
 is digging at the carpet, climbing something or what not.

 I don't really have too much advice other than keep plodding
 along, you do see results. I still scramble for safety
 every time Tassy starts climbing under the bed covers, and
 I never stick my nose in her face for kisses like I do the
 others, but she is still much better.

 
 
 

help ... nipping seems to be contagious

Post by Kathy Gallaghe » Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE help me !!!!!

> ok, here's the thing ...

> Then came Suesschen, our first girl, she was rough from the start, even before
> we brought her home, and her brothers got to her.  She will jump at my legs,
> and then start biting them, and not normal nipping, she really bites hard, and
> god forbid, I sit in the living room with no shoes on.  She's even rough with
> my husband - when he holds her, she'll start***ing his arm, but them, just
> out of no where, she'll bite down *hard* (she's even drawn *** once or
> twice).

> Now we've tried all the usual ways to discourage biting, biter apple; i wear
> socks and shoes as much as possible; we give her time out; we sruff her,
> holding her mouth closed and say 'no' sternly, but nothing seems to work.

Consider adding the following to your disciplineof her.  It will probably take
about a week to be effective and she will not like it at all and may try to be
worse for a the first day or two.

The purpose of  this is to establish your *** over the ferret.  Females are
often alpha (top ferret)  Both my 2# females run my 3 males who are all much
bigger than they are.  After the initial introductions, both my females get along
well.  I have a third one to introduce to the group, who is also used to being the
alpha female, so it could be slow going.

In addition ot scruffing her, drag her along on her back.  Then instead of putting
her on a time out in a cage continue to scruff her until she quits wiggling
entirely.  When she quit wiggling and is quiet.  Give her a treat and put her
down.  She may resent the restraint time and actually attack again to establish
who is boss.  Again scruff her, growl or hiss at her, drag her along the couch or
floor again for a longer period.  Restrain her until she quits wiggling, give her
a second treat and pop her in the cage, and don't let her back out for the day.

Punish your other little guys for biting too hard.  They may simply have gotten
wound up by plyaing rougher with your new female and forgot to restrain
themselves.  They should relearn quickly about the limits they need to know.

KG

 
 
 

help ... nipping seems to be contagious

Post by RED20 » Sat, 18 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Glad to have found this newsgroup.  I have a new male (Bobby Socks) and it has
been very hard to get him to stop biting.  Just what is scruffing?  I told my
aunt that it seems more like an adjustment to the pecking order with him than
anything else.  My 2 year old Georgie is holding his own with Bobby and now it
is between the two of us.  I am sure he will get the message that biting is a
no-no soon.  I hope so because I don't have much more skin left for the taking!
 He also jumps up to my shoulders and head for a go at me when sitting on the
bed.  Thanks for the advice.
Becky

 
 
 

help ... nipping seems to be contagious

Post by Vikki Power » Sat, 18 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> In addition ot scruffing her, drag her along on her back.  Then instead of putting
> her on a time out in a cage continue to scruff her until she quits wiggling
> entirely.  When she quit wiggling and is quiet.  Give her a treat and put her
> down.  She may resent the restraint time and actually attack again to establish
> who is boss.  Again scruff her, growl or hiss at her, drag her along the couch or
> floor again for a longer period.  Restrain her until she quits wiggling,

I agree completely. This method is working very well at my home. I have
5 ferrets and none of the others ever had any problems. I got them in
this order female,female,male,male,female.  when the last female came
into the group she took over/is taking over as Alpha. She's tried it
with my son (and won)  and with me. I've been scruffing NO! and hiss.
Nothing was working. Then I started dragging her by the scruff on the
carpet the way she tries to do the others. It's working. We actually had
a short cuddle pet time last night without a nip. In fact, she actually
did the****** bit and didn't even try to nip. I was leary, but will
continue the training using this method.  After I scruff, I always kiss
them on the nose.

Vikki and company

 
 
 

help ... nipping seems to be contagious

Post by DonJ.. » Sat, 18 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>and now it
>is between the two of us.

The other responder gives the 'PC' version, but I learned it the hard
way by watching ferrets deciding who was the 'boss' - and went
'natural' - I bit them back! <GGG>  Nothing mean - I just pulled up
the skin on the back of the neck (the scruff) and got a good grip
(obviously not hard enough to bruise or break the skin!!!), and then I
just didn't let go until the ferret stopped struggling to get away...

The one that I used this with didn't LIKE it and would 'fuss' after
let go, but the behaviour DID change after only a couple of times...
(I wish that I could say that I thought of this first, but I actually
think that I learned about the same time as my dad did with HIS ferret
- a REAL biter - or soon thereafter...)

Generally it's using the ANIMAL's instinct's to teach it - Something
that MANY animal trainers do - especially in the film industry and
guard dog kinda stuff...

Good luck with your new friend!!!

Good luck!
-DJ

"Send lawyers, guns, and money - the shit has hit the fan."
-Warren Zevon

 
 
 

help ... nipping seems to be contagious

Post by E.M. Enn » Sat, 18 Apr 1998 04:00:00


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: Nothing was working. Then I started dragging her by the scruff on the
: carpet the way she tries to do the others. It's working. We actually had
: a short cuddle pet time last night without a nip. In fact, she actually
: did the****** bit and didn't even try to nip. I was leary, but will
: continue the training using this method.  After I scruff, I always kiss
: them on the nose.
: Vikki and company

I agree that this works quite well.  I've been known to actually bite (not
hard, just enough to get the 'go-limp' reflex), hiss (or at least my best
interpretation of a hiss), and drag.  It's very useful because it's
something they can understand quite readily (i.e. it's pseudo-ferret
behaviour) as opposed to them having to learn what NO! means, why they're
getting time-out, etc.  Don't get me wrong, ferrets learn training
techniques pretty quickly and it isn't that hard to get them to
understand, but in terms of making yourself alpha-male (or female), this
is hard to beat.  The ferret that 'respects' and openly loves me the most
is the one that I had the longest alpha battle with (and won).
                                        -Erin...

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