Advice on Cobalt blue.

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Advice on Cobalt blue.

Post by Myco Inventio » Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:57:24



 Im just wondering the best substrate to use for this species. I plan on using
a vermiculite/peat mix. Will this provide enough moisture and support for a
burrow? This is the first burrowing species I have owned and just want to give
him/her the best.
 Also, I have him/her (unsexed juvenile) in a 5.5 gallon small pet aquarium
with some soil in the bottom for now. The spider seems to want to stay at the
top corner of the aquarium than any other place. Is this normal? From what I
have read it does not seem right.
  Tomorrow is going to be fun if he/she does not want to move from the top when
I need to put in the new substrate. Fast and agressive even as a small spider.
:)

Thanks for any help
Matt

 
 
 

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Post by Huntryder » Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:17:41


My Cobalt is a little over 3 inches, and I have her on plain potting soil with
no chemicals.  The soil is about 8 inches deep and she's quite happy with
things.  I've had no problem keeping the humidity up, and the soil is easy for
her to burrow in.
When I got mine, she spent almost 2 days clinging to the roof of her container.
 I also have talked to others with H. lividums that have the same behavior.
As far as moving yours goes, it shouldn't be too hard.  Mine isn't overly
aggressive unless you're messing around too close to her burrow, but I don't
think you should have too many problems.  I take a deli cup and put it over top
of her then gently slide the lid underneath.  I've used this method when she
was on the side of her tank, as well as in a corner.  The main thing is don't
hesitate, i.e. don't hover over her, just do it.  If you hesitate, you give her
time to react.  

Leanne

 
 
 

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Post by Myco Inventio » Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:00:27


 Thanks for the info. The soil the spider is temporarily on is topsoil. I am
going to give the peat/vermiculite a shot and see how things go.
 Last night I must have spent 30+ min trying to get the little *** off the
top of the cage. For some reason it did not want to give up its position on the
top or in the corner, even when softly prodded.  Im going to give it another
shot tonight and see how things go. :)
 Just one more question though. How common is fungal invasion of the substrate?
Im in Louisiana and the humidity always seems to be 55+ and with a moist cage I
fear mold may develop.

Thanks for the help!
Matt

 
 
 

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Post by Martin Overto » Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:12:40


Hi,


Quote:

> Just one more question though. How common is fungal invasion of the substrate?
>Im in Louisiana and the humidity always seems to be 55+ and with a moist cage I
>fear mold may develop.

The use of peat will significantly increase the chance of fungus/mould
propagation, especially if the substrate is almost constantly wet.
This is why many keepers of this (and other arachnid species that
require higher humidity) tarantula tend to use very little if any peat
or topsoil. They either use 90%+ vermiculite (with a little peat of
topsoil) and/or create burrows for the spider out of flower foam or
polystyrene instead.

The main problems with this species are:

1. They are great escapologists
2. They rarely come completely out of their burrow, mainly sitting at
the entrance.
3. They are very fast and tend to be very skittish, which some keepers
mistake as aggressiveness.
4. They are difficult to catch if they do get out of their tanks.

Other than that, they are one of the most striking species of
tarantulas on the planet.

Hope this helps?

Regards,
Martin Overton
BTS & ATS Member
Arachnophiliac/The Tarantula's Burrow - http://arachnophiliac.com/burrow/home.htm

 
 
 

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Post by Myco Inventio » Thu, 24 Apr 2003 07:48:08


Hmm. With all the web searches and book reading I have done it appears that
there is no one "perfect" substrate for use. Most of the information I came
across was the result of trial and error.
 At the moment I am giving the peat/vermiculite a chance. I do fear in the end
I will have to use just vermiculite, though I have seen white mold colonize
just plain vermiculite on several occasions.
 My cobalt has yet to come down from the top, though I think it is stress from
being moved and bothered. I made a small hole in the substrate to see if it
will further build it into a burrow. If not I will have to construct an
artificial one.
 All the responces to my post have been of great help and I thank you. Im
looking forward to raising a beautiful tarantula.
Quote:
>The use of peat will significantly increase the chance of fungus/mould
>propagation, especially if the substrate is almost constantly wet.
>This is why many keepers of this (and other arachnid species that
>require higher humidity) tarantula tend to use very little if any peat
>or topsoil. They either use 90%+ vermiculite (with a little peat of
>topsoil) and/or create burrows for the spider out of flower foam or
>polystyrene instead.

>The main problems with this species are:

>1. They are great escapologists
>2. They rarely come completely out of their burrow, mainly sitting at
>the entrance.
>3. They are very fast and tend to be very skittish, which some keepers
>mistake as aggressiveness.
>4. They are difficult to catch if they do get out of their tanks.

>Other than that, they are one of the most striking species of
>tarantulas on the planet.

>Hope this helps?

>Regards,
>Martin Overton
>BTS & ATS Member
>Arachnophiliac/The Tarantula's Burrow -
>http://arachnophiliac.com/burrow/home.htm

 
 
 

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Post by Julian Hale » Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:37:06



Quote:
> Hmm. With all the web searches and book reading I have done it appears
that
> there is no one "perfect" substrate for use. Most of the information I
came
> across was the result of trial and error.
>  At the moment I am giving the peat/vermiculite a chance. I do fear in the
end
> I will have to use just vermiculite, though I have seen white mold
colonize
> just plain vermiculite on several occasions.
>  My cobalt has yet to come down from the top, though I think it is stress
from
> being moved and bothered. I made a small hole in the substrate to see if
it
> will further build it into a burrow. If not I will have to construct an
> artificial one.
>  All the responces to my post have been of great help and I thank you. Im
> looking forward to raising a beautiful tarantula.

> >The use of peat will significantly increase the chance of fungus/mould
> >propagation, especially if the substrate is almost constantly wet.
> >This is why many keepers of this (and other arachnid species that
> >require higher humidity) tarantula tend to use very little if any peat
> >or topsoil. They either use 90%+ vermiculite (with a little peat of
> >topsoil) and/or create burrows for the spider out of flower foam or
> >polystyrene instead.

> >The main problems with this species are:

> >1. They are great escapologists
> >2. They rarely come completely out of their burrow, mainly sitting at
> >the entrance.
> >3. They are very fast and tend to be very skittish, which some keepers
> >mistake as aggressiveness.
> >4. They are difficult to catch if they do get out of their tanks.

> >Other than that, they are one of the most striking species of
> >tarantulas on the planet.

> >Hope this helps?

> >Regards,
> >Martin Overton
> >BTS & ATS Member
> >Arachnophiliac/The Tarantula's Burrow -
> >http://arachnophiliac.com/burrow/home.htm

Well im no expert on arachnids, more on herps but i often find books,
websites vary and differ a great deal, which is why i always ask what people
do with theirs.   Iguana care for example varies a huge amount, often book
text is very old and can kill the Igs!
 
 
 

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Post by Martin Overto » Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:34:04


Hi,


Quote:

>Hmm. With all the web searches and book reading I have done it appears that
>there is no one "perfect" substrate for use. Most of the information I came
>across was the result of trial and error.

Vermiculite is the nearest to the perfect sterile (mould/fungus
inhibiting) substrate for use with arachnids. It may be perfect for us
keepers but some arachnids 'hate' the stuff and refuse to even stand
on it.....others tolerate it, and a few actively seem to prefer it,
once webbed up. My H. lividum (Cobalt blue tarantula) loved it, and
she had a wonderful set of tunnels all round her tank. You never knew
where she would pop out!

Quote:
> At the moment I am giving the peat/vermiculite a chance. I do fear in the end
>I will have to use just vermiculite, though I have seen white mold colonize
>just plain vermiculite on several occasions.

That would almost certainly be due to contamination from left over
food (cricket parts or dead uneaten cricket or other foodstuff. I have
yet (in over 15 years of keeping arachnids) to see vermiculite in a
well maintained tank succumb to mould or fungus infection. However I
have seen this happen with peat, even after it was sterilised in a
microwave.

Quote:
> My cobalt has yet to come down from the top, though I think it is stress from
>being moved and bothered. I made a small hole in the substrate to see if it
>will further build it into a burrow. If not I will have to construct an
>artificial one.
> All the responces to my post have been of great help and I thank you. Im
>looking forward to raising a beautiful tarantula.

Well here's a link to my own care sheet for this species, from
first-hand experience, as I used to own one of these splendid
creatures.
http://arachnophiliac.com/burrow/caresheets/haplopelma_lividum.htm

Here's a link to an article that I penned on the subject of substrates
for use with arachnids.
http://arachnophiliac.com/burrow/substrate.htm

Hope these help?

Regards,
Martin Overton
BTS & ATS Member
Arachnophiliac/The Tarantula's Burrow - http://arachnophiliac.com/burrow/home.htm

 
 
 

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Post by Myco Inventio » Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:07:31


Thank you for all of the helpful information. I have bookmarked your site so I
can return to it.
 I will be sure to try vermiculite if the verm/peat does not work out. Im
hoping that my spider will burrow on its own soon...seems as though it has
adopted a corner of the tank and even put a small mat of web there.

Thanks for your help.
Matt