To hand-feed or not to hand-feed

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To hand-feed or not to hand-feed

Post by BIRUTE MARIJA WISE, ms93 » Fri, 22 Apr 1994 22:08:40



I'm looking into different breeders in my area, and have run across one who
does not hand-feed his babies.  He contends that the birds that are not
hand-fed are much more hardy than ones that are hand-fed, and that he never hand-feeds his birds.  When I asked
him about how tame they are, he said it takes only half an hour (for an
additional charge) to hand-train them.  He said I could do it myself if I
wanted to.

Not very surprisingly, his birds are considerably cheaper than ones I have
seen advertised in the paper/bird stores, etc...

This sounds somewhat contrary to what I've read about in Bird-talk, and
in this group.  It seems they wouldn't make as good pets...  Being a relative
newbie, I'd like to find out what some more experienced people think.  Please
let me know... I need all the help I can get!!!

Thanks!!

Birute-

 
 
 

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Post by BIRUTE MARIJA WISE, ms93 » Fri, 22 Apr 1994 22:30:50


Hi!  I'm so e***d - my husband "gave" me a bird for valentine's
day, and ever since, I've been reading up on Bird Talk, the postings
in this group, etc...  There are so many interesting and exciting
stories out there, and it seems like everyone has a different favorite.
All in all, I'm having a little trouble deciding on which type of bird
to get.

I hope someone can help me -  Here's a little about my lifestyle:

My husband and I are both students, but we have our own house.  We're gone
about 9-10 hours a day, but (unless there's an exam coming up), we've got
plenty of time in the evenings and weekends to spend with a bird.  We'd
like a bird with plenty of "character" - the more character, the better.
W'ed also like one that can learn to talk, and is not too terribly
loud.  It should also not be too large (we have a cage that is about two
feet square and 3-4 feet high ??approx, but we can build one larger if we
need to).  Finally, the most limiting
criteria is that it can't be very expensive - up to $200 or maybe a little
more (we don't have paying jobs, after all!) for the bird, and hopefully
the vet check-up, etc..., although we may be able to come up with a little
more for the "right" bird :)  We also have a dog, so I'm not sure how people
train the bird and the dog to get used to each other (any suggestions..??)

I've been somewhat interested in conures, especially the jenday or blue-
headed (I'm not sure I have the names right), but there are so many other
types of birds that sound interesting - Please help!    I've also read
about tiels and budgies, but would prefer something a little "different"
(no offense intended).

Also, I've read a lot about people "adopting" birds that are unwanted,
etc...  I'd be interested in finding out where they find out about
these birds, and if it's a good idea - it seems like a fairly decent
thing to do - we have a lot of love to give, and we've always believed
in giving a good home to animals in that situation!

Thanks ahead of time!  I can't wait!!!!!!

:)
Birute

 
 
 

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Post by Peter Klimcz » Mon, 25 Apr 1994 09:19:29



: We'd like a bird with plenty of "character" - the more character, the better.
: W'ed also like one that can learn to talk, and is not too terribly
: loud.  It should also not be too large (we have a cage that is about two
: feet square and 3-4 feet high ??approx, but we can build one larger if we
: need to).  Finally, the most limiting
: criteria is that it can't be very expensive - up to $200 or maybe a little
: more (we don't have paying jobs, after all!) for the bird, and hopefully
: the vet check-up, etc..., although we may be able to come up with a little
: more for the "right" bird :)  We also have a dog, so I'm not sure how people
: train the bird and the dog to get used to each other (any suggestions..??)

Jenday or Nanday would fit the bill except for the 'not too terrily loud'
part, and  I am talking from personal experience.  A friend of mine has
a Quacker which seems to be less noisy but still pretty loud.  
Other than that I only had first hand experience with Love birds, Budgies,
and***atiels and it doesn't sound like you would be interested in those.
From reading, though, the Senegal parot might be just right, but I am not
sure about the prices.  You might also inquire about Indian Ringnecks and
Caiques.
Good luck.

 
 
 

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Post by Nartk » Tue, 26 Apr 1994 02:45:08



writes:

In response to a request for a First Bird,  I've had two African Greys, and
found them to have all the charactristics I would want in a bird, Smart,
Talkative and very personable.

 
 
 

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Post by Eve Cunni » Mon, 25 Apr 1994 10:21:16



Quote:
>Hi!  I'm so e***d - my husband "gave" me a bird for valentine's
>day, and ever since, I've been reading up on Bird Talk, the postings
>in this group, etc...  There are so many interesting and exciting
>stories out there, and it seems like everyone has a different favorite.
>All in all, I'm having a little trouble deciding on which type of bird
>to get.
>I hope someone can help me...

Have you considered a Quaker parakeet?  They run about $100, and I believe
they can talk.
 
 
 

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Post by Todd Anders » Wed, 27 Apr 1994 09:48:20



...

Quote:

>Also, I've read a lot about people "adopting" birds that are unwanted,
>etc...  I'd be interested in finding out where they find out about
>these birds, and if it's a good idea - it seems like a fairly decent
>thing to do - we have a lot of love to give, and we've always believed
>in giving a good home to animals in that situation!

I adopted the sweetest peach-faced lovebird from my local Humane
Society animal shelter.  You might also try SPCA chapters or maybe
city animal control dept. for birds available for adoption.  Probably
a lot of the birds at these places have behavior or other problems--
better for someone with experience training birds.  But you can find
wonderful little guys (like mine).   For me, the best thing about where
I got my bird (birds, actually) is knowing for sure that I am not
supporting the capture of wild birds.

Birds are not as common as many other pets so you will probably have to
be patient until the right bird becomes available.  Some places have
number with a recorded message of the pets available--you may want to
call often or get on a waiting list.

Good luck to you,
Todd

 
 
 

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Post by Grey Fore » Thu, 28 Apr 1994 02:24:59


Yes Quaker parakeets can talk.  My one, Jade, could say "Hello," "Go Away"
which sounded like "Ooh Aay" and he picked up on all of the 'tiel calls.
However, Jade was (I had him adopted when I left for college) very very
loud and would scream for attention whenever I left the room.  Also, although
he was extremely sweet with me and a few friends, he despised my parents
and brother and would attack the cage door or lunge at them whenever they
were nearby.  Also, (I'm not sure if most parrots do this) he had a    
tendency to poop through the bars so that it landed on the floor...oh
what a mess.  All in all though...if you make sure to have everyone you
want him friendly with around him often...you shouldn't have the same
problems.  

Just my .02.

--Rachel

 
 
 

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Post by CSS S » Fri, 29 Apr 1994 09:35:02



(BIRUTE MARIJA WISE, ms93,,) writes:

"This sounds somewhat contrary to what I've read about in Bird-talk, and
in this group.  It seems they wouldn't make as good pets...  Being a relative
newbie, I'd like to find out what some more experienced people think.  Please
let me know... I need all the help I can get!!!"

The answer is --- yes and no.  You can kind of finger-train a small bird in
half an hour, so that it will sit on your finger.  

However, once you get it home, it may or may not forget about all that.  It is
NOT a hand-tamed bird.  I have just bought a hand-tamed Meyer's, and I can tell
the enormous amount of difference hand-taming makes.  Coco likes people, wants
to sit on them, play with them, and is truly tame.  It is a nice start.

Hand taming takes more time and effort, and that is why the birds are cheaper.
From my experience, I think it is worth the money.

I don't think parent-fed birds are heartier.  I do think that parent-fed birds
might do better at breeding, but are you buying the bird for a breeder or a
pet?

Hope this has helped ....  Birds are wonderful!  ---Sue

 
 
 

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Post by cfu.. » Sat, 30 Apr 1994 12:18:17


teil - best first bird you can get - talks a little, loves people
needs the kinda attention you need to give a larger bird, but a little
more forgiving if you***up.  Get one - you won't regret it.
 
 
 

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Post by Cathy Quinon » Sun, 01 May 1994 02:59:53


Quote:

>teil - best first bird you can get - talks a little, loves people
>needs the kinda attention you need to give a larger bird, but a little
>more forgiving if you***up.  Get one - you won't regret it.

You mean a hand-fed tiel, right? ;)

Cathy
(Sid the 'tiel's much hissed at/bitten/in general gets-no-respect slave)

 
 
 

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Post by Nartk » Mon, 02 May 1994 03:18:04


What Bird First

Ia there another bird than the Grey?

 
 
 

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Post by abarbi.. » Fri, 06 May 1994 08:33:41



Quote:
>plenty of time in the evenings and weekends to spend with a bird.  We'd
>like a bird with plenty of "character" - the more character, the better.
>W'ed also like one that can learn to talk, and is not too terribly
>loud.  It should also not be too large (we have a cage that is about two
>feet square and 3-4 feet high ??approx, but we can build one larger if we
>need to).  Finally, the most limiting
>criteria is that it can't be very expensive - up to $200 or maybe a little
>more (we don't have paying jobs, after all!) for the bird, and hopefully

although I do not know from personal experience I hear nothing but good
things about Pionus Parrots, and my husband and I are planning  on
getting a baby one in a few years.  Check out the current issue of Bird
Talk--they have a great article on the Pionus.  Apparently they are
wonderful buddies, well behaved, and *relatively* quite.  (what bird is
really quiet? <G>)

Good Luck!

Patti Barbiero

 
 
 

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Post by abarbi.. » Fri, 06 May 1994 08:39:46


Quote:

>Yes Quaker parakeets can talk.  My one, Jade, could say "Hello," "Go Away"
>which sounded like "Ooh Aay" and he picked up on all of the 'tiel calls.

Just to add my agreement to your post--our Quaker is learning to talk,
says Hello, and has the cutest little wolf whistle.  He is mumbling a
few other things--I cant wait to hear him when he is through practicing.
He also does a perfect***ateil imitation.  You cant tell the difference!
I have found that he is loud though, and seems to chatter at various
decibel levels all day long.  He is  a fiesty little brat that we just
couldn't do without!

Patti