Clipping wings - right/wrong?

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Clipping wings - right/wrong?

Post by Mikael Djurval » Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Hi folks!

I want to hear your opinion about clipping wings. Personally I think its
okey if it means that the bird gets company, instead of being left in the
cage alone all day. But how often should it be done? Regularly, and never
let the bird fly? Or sometimes? Wouldnt that be difficult for the bird, to
be used to flying and suddenly not be able to?  

 
 
 

Clipping wings - right/wrong?

Post by WH LAMBD » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>I want to hear your opinion about clipping wings. Personally I think
>its okey if it means that the bird gets company, instead of being left in
>the cage alone all day. But how often should it be done? Regularly, and never

I;m all for clipping wings, It prevents escapes, injuries, and makes taming
easier.

WHL (Bill)
With Buddy (PF lovebird), and loving memory for Scampy (The Wonder Bird)

I am into meditation. Contact me via E-mail if you are also interested.

 
 
 

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Post by Charlen » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Alongside Bill, I too feel clipping is good for taming.  The agreement,
however, stops there.  Once the bird is tamed & receptive of its surroundings,
the wings should be allowed to grow back.  I feel that a bird with clipped
wings is like an apartment-dog -- it limits the enjoyment of the animal being
an animal.  

This, of course, is only an opinion.  Keeping your bird safe & away from open
doors & windows will mitigate the opportunities for escaping.  I don't think
anything can replace a bird's happiness while doing a lap around the living
room!

Charlene

 
 
 

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Post by WH LAMBD » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
(Charlene2) writes:
>Alongside Bill, I too feel clipping is good for taming.  The agreement,
>however, stops there.  Once the bird is tamed & receptive of its
>surroundings, the wings should be allowed to grow back.  I feel that a bird
>with clipped wings is like an apartment-dog -- it limits the enjoyment of the
>animal being an animal.  

I couldn't disagree more. I believe pet birds should be kept cliped.

I have lost several special friends over the last 30 years that were startled
in flight and paniced and died trying to fly through a pane of glass. keeping
the wings clipped also prevents escapes where the bird is open to predators, or
starvation.

I doubt Buddy would enjoy flight more than the 2 hours of personal one to 1
interaction he gets with me every day and the risk of escape, and accidents in
the house are removed without harming the companion animal.

WHL (Bill)
With Buddy (PF lovebird), and loving memory for Scampy (The Wonder Bird)

I am into meditation. Contact me via E-mail if you are also interested.

 
 
 

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Post by SLRnR » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>Hi folks!

I want to hear your opinion about clipping wings. Personally I
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>think its

okey if it means that the bird gets company, instead of being left
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>in the

cage alone all day. But how often should it be done? Regularly, and
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>never

let the bird fly? Or sometimes? Wouldnt that be difficult for the
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>bird, to

be used to flying and suddenly not be able to?  

We have had our senegal's wings clipped and kept them clipped ever since he was
a ***y weeny baby so he hasn't gotten the taste of flying (in fact I think he
wouldn't know how to react if he knew he could fly!!).  But I can see that if
the bird could fly then lost this ability it might make him upset (and
confused!).        :)    
luv,
Sarah

 
 
 

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Post by WH LAMBD » Fri, 20 Feb 1998 04:00:00


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>Your homes obviously weren't adequately bird-proofed.

I was very careful, but a bird that is startled isn't thinking clearly amd is
looking for a way of escaping.

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>Given a choice, you really think a bird would choose to be clipped? hahahaha

given the option of being clipped with a lot of personal interaction, or not
being clipped and kept in a cage 99% of the day I really believe the bird would
choose the first option.

WHL (Bill)
With Buddy (PF lovebird), and loving memory for Scampy (The Wonder Bird)

I am into meditation. Contact me via E-mail if you are also interested.

 
 
 

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Post by gwen » Fri, 20 Feb 1998 04:00:00


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> Given a choice, you really think a bird would choose to be clipped?
> hahahaha

NO, but given a choice, do you think dogs and cats would choose to be spayed and
neutered? Often times it is necessary and responsible thing to do. I did say often and not
always.

These decisions should be weighed out with individual circumstances.

Quote:

> - Jack

> http://junior.apk.net/~jac      "Music is God's voice." - Brian Wilson

Cheers,
Gwen
 
 
 

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Post by gwen » Fri, 20 Feb 1998 04:00:00


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> : but given a choice, do you think dogs and cats would choose to be spayed
> : and neutered? Often times it is necessary and responsible thing to do. I
> : did say often and not always.
> :
> : These decisions should be weighed out with individual circumstances.

> Totally irrelevant to the subject.

Of course this is totally IYHO that it is totally irrelevant to subject. It really isn't in
mine. It is still involves responsibility of said pet owner. Decisions and responsible
practices.

Quote:

> - Jack

> http://junior.apk.net/~jac      "Music is God's voice." - Brian Wilson

Gwen
 
 
 

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Post by Kelli » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


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> NO, but given a choice, do you think dogs and cats would choose to be spayed and
> neutered? Often times it is necessary and responsible thing to do. I did say often and not
> always.

There's the most sensible answer in this thread!  Individual circumstances differ-  aviaries,
for example, usually contain  flighted birds but also have a safety door with a second door to
close completely before opening the second to limit the chance for escape.  Many people do
weill with flighted birds-  I have found that with two young boys going in and out, and no
enclosed porch the birds are safer clipped.--
Kellie
My Karma ran over my Dogma.  It was a catastrophe.
Now my Dogma's dead and my Karma's out of alignment.
 
 
 

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Post by Kelli » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


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> I want to hear your opinion about clipping wings.

Do it!  Unclipped birds are very likely to:  fly away, have accidental
injuries, develop aggression problems, etc.

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> Personally I think its okey if it means that the bird gets company, instead
> of being left in the
> cage alone all day.

It is definitely okay.

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> But how often should it be done?

When you see that they are growing-  check them often-  even one or two flight
feathers can give some birds good flight ability!

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> Regularly, and never let the bird fly? Or sometimes? Wouldnt that be
> difficult for the bird, to
> be used to flying and suddenly not be able to?

Keep them clipped always.
--
Kellie
My Karma ran over my Dogma.  It was a catastrophe.
Now my Dogma's dead and my Karma's out of alignment.
 
 
 

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Post by Kelli » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
> Alongside Bill, I too feel clipping is good for taming.  The agreement,
> however, stops there.  Once the bird is tamed & receptive of its surroundings,
> the wings should be allowed to grow back.  I feel that a bird with clipped
> wings is like an apartment-dog -- it limits the enjoyment of the animal being
> an animal.

It's okay that we disagree, but I must say that dogs do not, in my experience,
mind a bit being kept inside out of the wet and cold and hot weather!  Birds can
still be birds with clipped wings, too, in my opinion--  spoken as one who lost
two budgies because they were not clipped!

My opinion!
--
Kellie
My Karma ran over my Dogma.  It was a catastrophe.
Now my Dogma's dead and my Karma's out of alignment.

 
 
 

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Post by Mamabir » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


I've lost only one this way and one was more than enough. It was a very
young tiel that flew into a wall. ( I guess a "bird proof home" doesn't
have walls?) This was many years ago when I was new to keeping birds as
pets. A lesson learned the hard way. The grief and guilt was
overwhelming. But I can say with confidence that it will never happen
again because now I know to keep wings clipped ALWAYS. I'm extra
cautious with the tiels even *with* their wings clipped! Besides, all my
birds are too spoiled and lazy to fly. :)  Heck, they have their own
private limo service - ME!
I once raised a just- hatched bluejay and when he was old enough, I had
one heck of a time getting him to fly. He didn't WANT to fly. I'll never
be convinced that my birds would be happier if they could fly.
In the wild, flight is a necessity. As a pet, flight is potentially life
threatening. Maybe our birds are smart enough to know that.
--
"Mamabird"
----------
He who builds to every man's advice
will have a crooked house. (Danish proverb)
***********************

Quote:
>I have lost several special friends over the last 30 years that were
startled
>in flight and paniced and died trying to fly through a pane of glass.
keeping
>the wings clipped also prevents escapes where the bird is open to
predators, or
>starvation.
>WHL (Bill)
>With Buddy (PF lovebird), and loving memory for Scampy (The Wonder
Bird)

>I am into meditation. Contact me via E-mail if you are also interested.

 
 
 

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Post by ACT6 » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>Hi folks!

>I want to hear your opinion about clipping wings. Personally
>I think its okay if it means that the bird gets company,
>instead of being left in thecage alone all day. But how often
>should it be done? Regularly, and neverlet the bird fly?
>Or sometimes? Wouldnt that be difficult for the bird, to be
>used to flying and suddenly not be able to?

I have two flighted budgies. I nearly succumbed to a heart attack the first
time (but only the first time) each did laps in the house. But each bird
figured out the terrain quickly. It gave them something they enjoy--every day
when I come home from work I open the door and they can fly. They really seem
to like the freedom and exercise. And I never leave the room while they're
flying. On his first flight, Gooneybird fell down behind a bookcase, needing a
quick rescue, so I would never just let them fly unsupervised. (Not that
anything like this kind of misadventure ever happened again.)

Well, anyway, that's my 2 cents.

--act626

 
 
 

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Post by MACFARLAN » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Given a choice any bird would rather be lose in the Amazon (until supper
time).
I let my blue and gold's grow out and had several close calls with the
windows. She got to the point that when startled or hungry she would fly
all over the house. Clipped wings meant more time out on the perch.


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> : >Alongside Bill, I too feel clipping is good for taming.  The
agreement,
> : >however, stops there.  Once the bird is tamed & receptive of its

sniped...
 
 
 

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Post by Connie I. Rhyn » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00


I just clipped my CAGs wings for the first time a couple of days ago.  I let
him experience his first flight for about 3 weeks and literally one minute
after clipping him his attitude changed and he did not try even try to fly
on my shoulder(which I had been having problems with ever since he knew that
he could fly).
My husband wants me not to clip him anymore, but I love him too much and
want nothing more than a healthy baby.
Connie
OH yeah!  We have a new addition.  Male Roller Canary.  My son named him
Roadkill and we all call him Roadie.  Extremely intoxicating songs.  I am
hoping our CAG will drop the tiel calls and pick up a few of Roadies.
Hahaha!
Connie, Kiah(B&G), Alexx"PING"(CAG), Peanutbutter, Jelly and
Roadkill(Canaries) and Precious(white teacup poodle)

Quote:

>Given a choice any bird would rather be lose in the Amazon (until supper
>time).
>I let my blue and gold's grow out and had several close calls with the
>windows. She got to the point that when startled or hungry she would fly
>all over the house. Clipped wings meant more time out on the perch.




>> : >Alongside Bill, I too feel clipping is good for taming.  The
>agreement,
>> : >however, stops there.  Once the bird is tamed & receptive of its
>sniped...