>>Also, what is a realistic price range for these fellows?
In the Chigago area, I have seen the price range from $475 to over $600.
>Mee too! In my case, I am plotting the possibility of getting a Pionus
>in the next year or so (for my SO... or so I claim). I would love stories
>and comments from people who have Pionus; right now we haven't decided
>on any one species, but we both like the blue-headed (we also like dark
>beaks :) In particular, I would LOVE to hear from anyone who has both
>a Pionus and a senegal. How do they compare in terms of activity level
>and attitude? I have a senegal, so we know what *those* are like!
My experience is with a Maxi Pionus. Sammy is now a little over 10
months old and I love him dearly. When I was first looking for
Pionus, I was at first thinking of a Blue Headed, but somewhere
decided to get a Maxi instead (they have dark beaks also Cathy!!!)
I have included a rating form I made up when I was trying to decide
what kind of a bird would fit my life style. I have added some
descriptions at the bottom to give you an idea why I decided to give
the rating I did. If you have any other questions I will try to give
My name is Bird
I don't go anywhere...
I don't do anything...
I don't have any fun... Cuddle Birdy!!
747 at takeoff Owl in flight
Mute from memory
Fowl Weather gear advised Sphincter Muscles
Dust Storms from the
Great Depression ATTRACTS DUST!!!!
Perch Potato Would like to enter
Iron Man contest
Can hide behind a stick Alternate host of
if someone new is seen "Tonight" show
Doppelganger Can amuse self for
long periods of time
Who needs a chain saw? Slurps food through
[G doppelga^:nger, fr. doppel- double + -ga^:nger goer]
:a ghostly counterpart of a living person; broadly: DOUBLE 2
Pionus are not cuddle birds! They are very friendly, but do not enjoy
close physical contact over their bodies. However, Sammy just LOVES
to perch on my arm in the evening and mellow out while I read or watch
a little TV.
I have worked with Sammy and have him trained to the point where I can
pick him up and hold him around his body in almost any position. He
doesn't struggle (much) when I do this. This is in preparation for
perhaps visiting a school and using Sammy as a pointer on a map.....
Quiet as advertised. The loudest Sammy ever gets is in the morning
when he can hear me up and about in the bathroom.
Said to talk in a "high squeaky" voice. Sammy doesn't talk yet. He
does wolf whistle and "ring" like my phone.
Not yet. But I have seen a white cap that was very well potty trained.
Not NEARLY as bad as a 'tiel. On the other hand, do you know how to
spell "bird"? P. I. G. :) :) :)
Mostly bursts of activity in between periods of inactivity. Sammy is
most active on his tree.
Doesn't actively solicit attention from strangers, but does well with
them. I have introduced Sammy to LOTS of people. He has also
traveled with me about 2300 miles by car.
HUMAN ATTENTION REQUIRED
Craves attention first thing in the morning, generally is happier left
alone during the middle of the day, craves attention starting in the
early evening. I assume this is the result of my work schedule that
he has been exposed to ever since I got him home. In the evening, I
sometimes can't leave the room without hearing the sound of "flap flap
flap thud" (he makes the most amazingly graceless landings!!!).
However, if he is on top of his cage, he will usually stay put.
Not all that much (as reported for pionus). However, if I have
headphones on, the little $%^$$#^ will try to take a chunk out of the
wire :( Beyond that, He isn't allowed unsupervised on the floor and
hasn't had much chance to retouch the furniture :)
There is also a Pionus mailing list if you care to subscribe. It has
been rather quiet lately, but I'm sure a few questions will perk
things up for a while :) You can subscribe by writing to:
There is also a publication by the Pionus Breeders Association.
From the Pionus list:
Subject: Pionus Breeders Association
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I don't know if everyone on the list is aware of the PBA. I'm a new
member and I have enjoyed the articles about Pionus. The articles cover
all kinds of topics, not just breeding information.
To join PBA send $12 to:
Pomona, CA 91766
In the Fall 1994 Issue No. 25 the PBA asks for "thoughts,
observations, comments, whatever, regarding your Pionus (pets or
breeders)" for a guide they are producing called _The PBA Guide to Pionus
I thought it might be neat to contribute to this guide as a group but
I would like your thoughts about this idea. If you have a comment for
them, please add a line to your note indicating that it could be used in
the newsletter as I wouldn't think of using it unless it was labelled as
I know there was a lot of talk on pet.rec.birds about advertising and
I think advertising of pionus and related materials should be welcome on
this list. What do you think?
Rochester, Michigan, North America ( >__< )
I also dug up a response I gave a Pionus-owner-wannabe some time
Subject: Pionus owner wannabe (fwd)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 94 13:59:46 CST
Tom Speairs writes:
> Don't know where all the activity on this list went, but we were avid
> lurkers, snatching up all Pionus info.
Well....... In my case its this little thing called work that gets in
my way. :)
> might better get along with
> occasional visit from young (2yr-old) grandson. We have had a single,
> well-adjusted lovebird for the last 13 months, so we're not total novices.
I don't have a wide range of experience (just my 6.5 month old maxi),
but I will say that Sammy will allow anyone to hold him if they want.
He may snarl (as well as he can :) ) and act like he wants to bite,
but if you call his bluff he *will* climb aboard. The only exception
is he will detect if anyone believes his bluff in about 3 nano-seconds
and will play the act up to the hilt. It is mostly the small or timid
children that this happens to.
I would tend to think that most pionus are similar enough that the
determining factor will be if your grandson can face an open
BEAK-OF-DOOM without snatching his hand back away from the bird.
Sammy has let some very small children hold him if they don't snatch
their hand away from him.
My training for Sammy has been to hold him every way I think I can get
away with (perched on my finger, stroking his wings, holding his wings
out [he really doesn't like it but he doesn't bite], gently grabbing
him about his main body and picking him up - holding him at wierd
angles, playing with his feet & legs [he really doesn't care much for
this either but still won't bite]. After about a minute of this,
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